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Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Jenners kinda suck because they've been power creeped by light mechs that boat small energy weapons and have smaller hitboxes, but Catapults and Kitfoxes are still decent. They doubled heat dissipation while cutting the heat cap so overall everybody gets to shoot a lot more. At this point I've found you can make almost any mech or weapon system work as long as you don't do anything like make unwieldy bracket builds or make a mech that's stupid undergunned (shout out to the guy I saw yesterday with 6 medium lasers and 2 UAC5s in his 100 ton Marauder II).

IMO this game is still worth playing, just don't expect the game to change in any real way from what it is now. They're probably not even going to do balance patches now since it's all hands on deck for MW5 at PGI, but they run pretty generous sales every weekend now too so it's a pretty good time for space poors like me.

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Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money
Hopefully this topic isn't dead. I haven't played in literal years but a friend of mine is checking this out for the first time so I might play again soon, I was going to ask what's changed and all but I see someone else beat me to it. So instead I'm going to lament all the cool neon skins and paints I've missed by not casually playing over the years and ask if anyone has any cool novelty build videos because I sure as hell can't find any on youtube. I know there used to be some good ones (I distinctly remember one showing a guy with so many lasers on his mech he exploded was what got me to play) but if I try to find anything I just get some super long winded streamer stuff now. So I'd appreciate it if anyone had fun stuff to share!

Also is King Crab still awesome? Because I remember loving that crab.

Parallelwoody
Apr 10, 2008


Can someone hit me with an K9 build? I suck poo poo at knowing how to build a mech.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Nuebot posted:

Hopefully this topic isn't dead. I haven't played in literal years but a friend of mine is checking this out for the first time so I might play again soon, I was going to ask what's changed and all but I see someone else beat me to it. So instead I'm going to lament all the cool neon skins and paints I've missed by not casually playing over the years and ask if anyone has any cool novelty build videos because I sure as hell can't find any on youtube. I know there used to be some good ones (I distinctly remember one showing a guy with so many lasers on his mech he exploded was what got me to play) but if I try to find anything I just get some super long winded streamer stuff now. So I'd appreciate it if anyone had fun stuff to share!

Also is King Crab still awesome? Because I remember loving that crab.

For gimmick builds you can check out Baradul and TheB33f. Baradul's videos are longish but he puts the builds right at the start, and B33f doesn't post much content on youtube anymore, though he still streams on Twitch.

The King Crab is okay. Not top tier, but it can run solid brawling and UAC builds.

Parallelwoody posted:

Can someone hit me with an K9 build? I suck poo poo at knowing how to build a mech.

Here go, basic MPL boat: K-9

Stick with the big mechs and poke to your heart's content.

Parallelwoody
Apr 10, 2008


Thanks! Anything else to know besides L to use the siren?

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Parallelwoody posted:

Thanks! Anything else to know besides L to use the siren?

It, like other urbies, is surprisingly tanky. You obviously don't want to facetank an assault mech, but you don't get vaporized in a single volley like other lights, so don't be afraid to duke it out. K-9 is one of my favorite mechs lol.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


360 torso yaw is no joke

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Yeah never forget in addition to twisting like a champ you can also spin 180 and shoot bad guys while you run straight back to your team. It's a tried and true method for getting some dummy in a piranha to overextend himself and get vaporized.

Slayerjerman
Nov 27, 2005

by sebmojo

Beet Wagon posted:

Yeah never forget in addition to twisting like a champ you can also spin 180 and shoot bad guys while you run straight back to your team. It's a tried and true method for getting some dummy in a piranha to overextend himself and get vaporized.

This almost is worth reinstalling for. God I miss being the bait. :allears:

Parallelwoody
Apr 10, 2008


Got it. Become the master baiter.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Beet Wagon posted:

Yeah never forget in addition to twisting like a champ you can also spin 180 and shoot bad guys while you run straight back to your team. It's a tried and true method for getting some dummy in a piranha to overextend himself and get vaporized.

Be careful about running straight away from people. Smart players will shoot your butt, which still counts as back armor.

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?
Can I get a WoL invite? Same name in-game.

e: game keeps connecting me to the Euro server and my profile says I’m in Australia?

e2: it also doesn’t remember my password or my video and audio settings.

Lazyhound fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Sep 28, 2019

The Repo Man
Jul 31, 2013

I Remember...

Lazyhound posted:

Can I get a WoL invite? Same name in-game.

e: game keeps connecting me to the Euro server and my profile says I’m in Australia?

e2: it also doesn’t remember my password or my video and audio settings.

Invite sent.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

poo poo, I need to play this again, I'm getting stompy robot cravings

Leos Klein
Mar 11, 2011

ALL HAIL CARDIEL

Can I get an invite too? in as Cyber Gnarledge
I'm having a great time flanking and poking in a light mech, well except in Solaris City.

The Repo Man
Jul 31, 2013

I Remember...

Leos Klein posted:

Can I get an invite too? in as Cyber Gnarledge
I'm having a great time flanking and poking in a light mech, well except in Solaris City.

Invite sent. I haven't been on too much lately, but if more people are flocking in I'd recommend hopping into the discord.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
Is the solaris 4v4 and 8v8 stuff playable now? I remember why I quit playing is because when you had a 4 man team in the normal 12v12 matches it was really hard to influence the win when the balancer suddenly started making all your teammates crap. Did they also ever do anything about all the aimbots?

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


Washout posted:

Did they also ever do anything about all the aimbots?

Yeah, they told everyone that the game was dead and so everyone stopped playing.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





lmao literally every bot I set up to help automate the discord immediately gets murdered. IDK if anyone is actually still trying to join the discord for this dumb dead game but if you do, once you get into the server just... idk PM me or something and I'll let you in. I'm the purple guy at the top.

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay
I've been playing the past week again and the only people still playing this game are the ultra try-hards and complete absolute poo poo-rear end mega-potato players. Been having a blast, getting games really quick and people are nice and communicate.

Team SuperFriends needs to make a comeback, maybe this weekend? Hit me up on the discord.

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe
I have been playin a little robits again. I'll try to be on tonight and maybe Saturday night

No idea what is meta but my DHG faff and srm-sin still seem viable

Bang3r
Oct 26, 2005

killed me.
tore me to pieces.
threw every piece into a fire.
Fun Shoe
I used to be able to get oceanic games all the time (even if there was a bit of a wait) but looks like they're dead and I'm stuck with NA servers now.. I miss my 5 ping :smith:

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay
Trick or Treat event starts today: https://mwomercs.com/events/317
Nothing exciting really but a good excuse to play again if you're feeling the need for some robot stomping action.

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
I was referred here from the BattleTech thread to find out why I should definitely not be hyped for MW5. I take it the developer is kind of a mess?

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


The developer is kind of a mess. To their credit, the core gameplay loop of MWO is pretty compelling, but almost every patch someone at PGI demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of how their game works, what makes it fun, how to balance, etc. The art is great and the team working on it seems dedicated and competent, but the management is very public-facing and have overpromised and underdelivered, often years late, almost every single time.

MWO is a pretty fun arena shooter. But it was meant to be a giant galactic battleground where players dynamically controlled territory, influenced the economy, joined or created factions, etc. This was the publicly-stated vision for the game many times over many years. PGI wasn't able to realize their ambitions though, so what we have instead is a few flavors of deathmatch on what is perhaps the worst-optimized game I have ever seen.

MW5 is the sort of thing where it might be okay to be interested in it and check it out after it comes out on your platform of choice (PGI took preorders, promised Steam keys, then went EGS exclusive) but definitely do not preorder it. There's a chance the game will be good, but there's also a very real chance it will be, charitably, a dumpster fire.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

PGI sucks because ghost heat

You're welcome

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

PathAsc posted:

PGI sucks because ghost heat

You're welcome

Mw5 won't have ghost heat so there's that

Though the mech lab is supposedly pretty limited compared to MWO so it'll probably be hard to make builds that would break ghost heat to begin with aside from boating medium lasers or something

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
I don't think MWO had Ghost Heat at release.

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe
I have no interest in getting mw5, but if I did the first thing I would try is getting a hoppin' hitler cataphract 3-d 2ppc 1gauss working in multiplayer

Crazyeyes24
Sep 14, 2014

Your good vision is your fatal weakness!
Will MW5 even have multiplayer?

Why would they kill their other game like that?

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
I saw some news that it could be played coop at least, but I'm not sure in what capacity.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

dexefiend posted:

I don't think MWO had Ghost Heat at release.

It didn't, they added it later lol :pgi:

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe
I get why they added ghost heat. Especially after quad PPC builds started showing up. Probably may have been a better way to manage OP loadouts but I aint a dev.

Bigger wtfs to me were the weird switch from 16 to 24 player on quickplay. I always felt 8v8 was a better experience. Also the awful faction play design, the overall awful mechlab/menu gore, the lovely member tax on factions. All the wasted hours on dumb game modes like escort

Edit: also the ridiculous skilltree

Edit: also it may just be me, but any time srm/ac brawling got strong, or had strong mechs for it, it felt like it would get nerfed to the dirt pretty quickly and we'd be back to laser/gauss/ppc/missle peekypokey gameplay

Willfrey fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Oct 28, 2019

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!

Crazyeyes24 posted:

Will MW5 even have multiplayer?

Why would they kill their other game like that?
4 player Co-Op, but that's it.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


Crazyeyes24 posted:

Will MW5 even have multiplayer?

Why would they kill their other game like that?

As above, cooperative play, and MWO was dead anyway, guessing they are hoping that MW5 will revive interest, but really they had nothing to lose by winding down development.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
they stopped adding new mechs months ago because they weren't even turning a profit on them and i wouldn't be surprised if they squeezed out some of the last few because the corsair, marauder ii, and dervish would be in MW5 anyway

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
Is MWO even salvageable? I could see a concerted effort working years ago but it's clear as day they bet the farm on MW5 and they hosed that up near the finish line.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
The only way I see them salvaging MWO long-term is if MW5 does well enough to drum up interest in the franchise and get eyes back on MWO. Then take all the work they did porting their poo poo to the Unreal Engine and basically do an MWO2 based directly on MW5 and be generous enough (transferring Hero Mechs and poo poo) to get the MWO playerbase to turn back up for it.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Freakazoid_ posted:

Is MWO even salvageable? I could see a concerted effort working years ago but it's clear as day they bet the farm on MW5 and they hosed that up near the finish line.

I mean, what is salvageable in this context? MWO is over six years old, which is a long tail even for a free-to-play game. The trickle of income they get is probably enough to keep the servers going for a while but there's no such thing as "revitalizing" a game this old. They needed to do something new and MW5 is what they decided to go with after Transverse failed.

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Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler
What they should do is remove ghost heat and then combine the mechs and mechlab from MWO and the campaign/etc from MW5. I bet that combo would be pretty drat fun. Also, why reinvent the wheel, etc.

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