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Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...

Memento posted:

Hang on, I thought The Bride was the knife expert?

Mia Wallace said she played the knives specialist in Fox Force Five in Pulp Fiction.

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Can't believe I missed it in Blues Brothers but when Bob and the Good Old Boys chase after Jake and Elwood in Bob's truck the other Good Old Boys are all crammed into the top of the truck camper above the cab.

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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This is more of an appreciation thing but in Law and Order, they really capture how New York is an absolute shithole

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
In The Lost World: Jurassic Park when Ian and his survivors reach the operations building, there's a really cool panning shot that begins with them walking past the ribcage of a dead dinosaur before transitioning to an industrial path that evokes a ribcage only made of metal.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

oldpainless posted:

This is more of an appreciation thing but in Law and Order, they really capture how New York is an absolute shithole

Even more so in CI where it’s abundantly clear it’s top to bottom. Little top-heavy maybe.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Olive! posted:

Mia Wallace said she played the knives specialist in Fox Force Five in Pulp Fiction.

I love the weird little nods between movies in QT's stuff. There's that, Mr Blond and Vic being brothers, stuff like that. It's never important to the plot but it's fun to catch that kind of stuff and see how long various ideas have been kicking around in his head.

oldpainless posted:

This is more of an appreciation thing but in Law and Order, they really capture how New York is an absolute shithole

I lived in NYC for a little while and it really nailed the feeling of the city, which is definitely an absolute shithole. But they got it down to the lighting and background noise.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I've heard an amusing theory that all Tarantino movies are in a shared universe where the assassination of Adolf Hitler caused significant cultural differences.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


Ghost Leviathan posted:

I've heard an amusing theory that all Tarantino movies are in a shared universe where the assassination of Adolf Hitler caused significant cultural differences.

Creating the vampires from Dusk til Dawn is a significant cultural difference alright

PicklePants
May 8, 2007
Woo!
I think... it's all movies Tarantino directed, not movies Tarantino was in.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!

PicklePants posted:

I think... it's all movies Tarantino directed, not movies Tarantino was in.

Yeah, I'm familiar with this theory too and it's his directed movies, not the other ones he's helped make (he wrote the screenplay for From Dusk Till Dawn, FYI).

But it's a theory that only really circulated after Inglorious Basterds, and Django Unchained naturally kinda threw it.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

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Illegal Hen
In the Tarantino universe, the death of Hitler by the Inglorious Basterds leads to a timeline where Jimmy can casually drop N-bombs in Pulp Fiction on front of Jules.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Android Apocalypse posted:

In the Tarantino universe, the death of Hitler by the Inglorious Basterds leads to a timeline where Jimmy can casually drop N-bombs in Pulp Fiction on front of Jules.

Would have thought a successful slave revolt spurred by the plantation massacre would do that.

e;
but really, in either case Jimmy is still a loving rear end in a top hat.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

It's pretty much irrelevant for the stories of, say, Once Upon A Time or Pulp Fiction how World War II ended in their fictional history, too. In terms of impact on his movies, these Tarantino connections aren't nearly all they're cracked up to be. Like, this isn't "a universe" the same way the Marvel movies are "a universe".

I do want to see Tarantino doing the next Star Trek movie like he's rumoured to. The effort to mentally integrate that should keep quite a few nerds busy and off the street.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
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Illegal Hen
If Tarantino directs a Star Trek the whole preproduction will be filled with fan theories of what alien species is "the black one." Or how to say the n-word in Klingon.

Epic Doctor Fetus
Jul 23, 2003

Android Apocalypse posted:

If Tarantino directs a Star Trek the whole preproduction will be filled with fan theories of what alien species is "the black one." Or how to say the n-word in Klingon.

Wouldn't it just be whatever word Tarantino's character calls Worf?

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

He's just gonna bring back Bele and Lokai.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Cleretic posted:

Yeah, I'm familiar with this theory too and it's his directed movies, not the other ones he's helped make (he wrote the screenplay for From Dusk Till Dawn, FYI).

But it's a theory that only really circulated after Inglorious Basterds, and Django Unchained naturally kinda threw it.

Another counterpoint, or point, or... whatever it would be at this point, but there's the Alabama (from True Romance, which was not directed by Tarantino) reference in Resevoir Dogs. I think it's safe to say that TR and RD are in the same universe.

Also, doesn't someone in Pulp Fiction call Joe?

Resevoir Dogs related: does anyone else remember a theory that there were two cops, and the other one was Mr Pink? I had heard something about, at the very end, when he runs out, in some versions, you can see captioned audio that reads 'Don't shoot, I'm a cop!'

Big Grunty Secret
Aug 28, 2007

Just one question, though. Is there a way to take off my pants?

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Resevoir Dogs related: does anyone else remember a theory that there were two cops, and the other one was Mr Pink? I had heard something about, at the very end, when he runs out, in some versions, you can see captioned audio that reads 'Don't shoot, I'm a cop!'

I'm pretty sure that's him surrendering to the police, proving that nobody gets away with the diamonds

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
The original script for Reservoir Dogs had Mr White partnered with someone named Alabama, but the context makes it almost impossible that it’s the same Alabama in True Romance. Conversely it’s not a stretch that the unseen Bonnie from Pulp Fiction is the same nurse that Nice Guy Eddie is thinking of calling for Mr Orange.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
Mr. Blonde and Vince are also brothers.

Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Also, doesn't someone in Pulp Fiction call Joe?

They take the car with Marvin's body to "Monster Joe's Truck and Tow".

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

It doesn't draw that much attention to it but if you pay close attention you can see that the joker is living in a society

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Accordion Man posted:

Mr. Blonde and Vince are also brothers.

He got the name wrong. Mr Blonde is Vic Vega.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I've heard an amusing theory that all Tarantino movies are in a shared universe where the assassination of Adolf Hitler caused significant cultural differences.

He said this in an interview:

quote:

“There’s the realer-than-real universe, all right, and all the characters inhabit that one. But then there’s this movie universe. And so From Dusk Till Dawn, Kill Bill, they all take place in this special movie universe. So basically when the characters of Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction, when they go to the movies, Kill Bill is what they go to see. From Dusk Till Dawn is what they see.”
.
I think Inglourious Basterds is in the latter just going off the tone.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Kill Bill is just live action anime. (and sometimes just anime)

I really wanna see how he handles Star Trek, because that franchise really needs some weird poo poo to mix it up.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
It'll be the first appearance of some tribble like alien with feet.

CityMidnightJunky
May 11, 2013

by Smythe

NtotheTC posted:

Creating the vampires from Dusk til Dawn is a significant cultural difference alright

It's probably less of a difference to today's world than having Katana swords as hold on luggage when you board a plane.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

It'll be the first appearance of some tribble like alien with feet.

Russian fairy tale of Cinderella: If shoe fits, wear it.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

MariusLecter posted:

Would have thought a successful slave revolt spurred by the plantation massacre would do that.

e;
but really, in either case Jimmy is still a loving rear end in a top hat.

N word or not, he's just loving rude and not a very good team player. Jimmy, you're out of the gang

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I've heard people offer that Keitel's Mr. White is The Wolf from Pulp FIction but I can't make the timeline work out.

White dies in Reservoir Dogs and doesn't act anything like the calm, cool collected problem solver he's shown to be in PF, which obviously would have come first, but it's still neat to think about.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
One plausible Tarantino fan theory I remember was that the organist played by Sam Jackson that gets killed during The Bride's wedding was Jules under an alias after he quit being a hitman.

beefnoodle
Aug 7, 2004

IGNORE ME! I'M JUST AN OLD WET RAG

Accordion Man posted:

One plausible Tarantino fan theory I remember was that the organist played by Sam Jackson that gets killed during The Bride's wedding was Jules under an alias after he quit being a hitman.

It’s not really plausible if you listen to the names of the bands he says he’s played with. Some have been defunct for decades.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

beefnoodle posted:

It’s not really plausible if you listen to the names of the bands he says he’s played with. Some have been defunct for decades.

He could be lying?

beefnoodle
Aug 7, 2004

IGNORE ME! I'M JUST AN OLD WET RAG
Pretty contorted. Much more straightforward that Rufus is an old Texas musician who played with all those acts over the years (and happens to be played by the same actor as a different film) than to invent that. Occam’s Razor and all.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

All these "same actor = same character" theories seem to me to point to a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of movies. I would go so far as to suggest there's a minor cognitive disorder at work.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

My Lovely Horse posted:

All these "same actor = same character" theories seem to me to point to a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of movies. I would go so far as to suggest there's a minor cognitive disorder at work.

Thank you for showing us the light you are very smart.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I don't think it's a useful approach to thinking about fiction to essentially ignore that it's fiction and produced with the ressources of the real world. If you meticulously track the convoluted theoretical biography of a man who is both unusually long-lived and looks uncannily like the real-world actor Brad Pitt across 30 movies while steadfastly refusing to acknowledge that Brad Pitt simply gets cast in a lot of movies, I'm afraid you will come off looking a bit loopy.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
True, but it makes things funny.

Especially with Hugh Jackman.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

My Lovely Horse posted:

I don't think it's a useful approach to thinking about fiction to essentially ignore that it's fiction and produced with the ressources of the real world. If you meticulously track the convoluted theoretical biography of a man who is both unusually long-lived and looks uncannily like the real-world actor Brad Pitt across 30 movies while steadfastly refusing to acknowledge that Brad Pitt simply gets cast in a lot of movies, I'm afraid you will come off looking a bit loopy.

But he still can’t read, right?

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flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




Obviously The Bride is not Mia Wallace. She's a character being played by Mia Wallace in the big budget Hollywood adaptation of the tv show she was telling Vince about

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