UKMT Red October 2019: Lies, dem libs, and polling companies.

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Solefald: Jun 9, 2010; sleepy~capy

Ms Adequate posted:

Well, I don't see any Roman videos game around anywhere, so a pretty long way.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 07:21

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# ? May 25, 2024 02:57

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

zokie posted:

I can't be the only one seeing the swastika here, can I?

A bit of a stretch. But now that you mention it, what a poo poo logo. Are those meant to be little T's?

# ? Oct 10, 2019 07:22

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

zokie posted:

I can't be the only one seeing the swastika here, can I?

That or the most abstract loss edit yet. Iraqi_loss.png

# ? Oct 10, 2019 07:34

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Solefald posted:

jesus, I think I've got a copy of that hanging around somewhere

# ? Oct 10, 2019 07:49

RabidWeasel: Aug 4, 2007; Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Hadn't seen this discussed much in thread:

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1182020313929805824?s=19

Apparently the Benn act forgot to include a 'no takebacksies' clause.

I believe that that this is the thing where the government has been talking about "legal differences of opinion"; apparently it's somewhat likely that if Boris did this it would end up back in court and he would lose since he's clearly trying to frustrate the actual objective of the legislation in spite of also doing everything it asks.

Also there doesn't seem to be any reason why the EU has to treat a second letter with equal weight to the first; unless it actually says "we're withdrawing our request to extend" then they can just say "fine you request an extension, but you don't want it, here's an offer anyway"

My take on this is that it's more playing to the gammon vote and "waah parliament is mean and won't let me gently caress the country (in this one specific way)" than actually finding a way to no deal directly.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 08:02

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

jesus, I think I've got a copy of that hanging around somewhere

If you haven't, it's in GOG for under a fiver.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 08:14

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

goddamnedtwisto posted:

If you haven't, it's in GOG for under a fiver.

Pretty sure that's what I paid in HMV when I got it a decade ago

# ? Oct 10, 2019 08:28

Clarence: May 3, 2012

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Hadn't seen this discussed much in thread:

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1182020313929805824?s=19

Apparently the Benn act forgot to include a 'no takebacksies' clause.

This is an interesting blog which talks about that - https://davidallengreen.com/2019/09/brexit-padfield-and-the-benn-act/

# ? Oct 10, 2019 08:31

Red Oktober: May 24, 2006; wiggly eyes!

Clarence posted:

This is an interesting blog which talks about that - https://davidallengreen.com/2019/09/brexit-padfield-and-the-benn-act/

quote:

Unless the government source behind such wheezes explains how the Padfield principle can also be sidestepped then it is just legal illiteracy and amateur lawyering.

Well I never! Cummings will be shocked.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 08:36

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

"I have a cumming plan!"

# ? Oct 10, 2019 08:44

StarkingBarfish: Jun 25, 2006; Novus Ordo Seclorum

Looking forward to the multi-part film series on Brexit that will be produced by the BBC propaganda dept as a psyop to convince the population brexit was good:

The Cumming Identity
The Cumming Ultimatum
The Cumming Supremacy
The Cumming Legacy

Much like the original the later ones will be poo poo.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 08:48

CyberPingu: Sep 15, 2013; If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Solefald posted:

AOE Rise of Rome Expansion too

# ? Oct 10, 2019 08:53

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

suck my woke dick posted:

"I have a cumming plan!"

As cumming as a fox who's just been appointed professor of cumming at Oxford university?

# ? Oct 10, 2019 08:54

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Surprising article in well-known capital-worshipping rag:

Can adopting a circular economy stop capitalism trashing the planet - and get your toaster fixed?

quote:

In the mid-1920s, the world�s light bulb makers got together to form the Phoebus cartel and came up with a cunning plan.

As well as dishing out territories and stamping down on competition, they decided to drag down the life expectancy of light bulbs to 1,000 hours.

Bulbs would be tested and any member making them last longer would be fined.

I picture the cartel�s secret plan to build in obsolescence and boost profits being hatched in a shadowy room, but considering its members� business they were probably more likely to have insisted on somewhere brightly lit.

The Phoebus cartel lasted until the outbreak of the Second World War, but the consequences of baking this into the industry stretched much further � both in terms of the world�s post-war lightbulb consumption and other industries where similar tactics were adopted.

We�ve come a long way on lightbulbs � and now pay considerably more attention to making them last as long as possible - but we still suffer from the effects of what is characterised as take-make-waste.

This business philosophy sees companies take resources, make something to sell, and then the product is wasted at the end of its life � at which point there is an opportunity to flog a fresh one.

It�s what�s known as the linear economy and can be seen throughout our modern day world: from household appliances and electronics that can�t be fixed, to industrial farming that strips land of nutrients, and plastic packaging that can�t be recycled.

That latter element is one of the great scandals of our time. Companies have sold us an increasing amount of stuff, in an increasing amount of plastic packaging, much of which cannot be easily recycled.

This seems to have been done out of a combination of laziness (they couldn�t be bothered), and profiteering (they would have made a little less money).

It also involved taking us for a ride, as most of us stupidly thought a lot of the offending plastic was being recycled, but no, from crisp packets to supermarket meat trays, it couldn�t be.

This disposable ideology was dominant as capitalism and the consumer economy rampaged through the world, raising living standards but unfortunately trashing the planet in the process.

We�ve belatedly wised up to that not being such a great idea, but what can we do about this linear economy problem?

The answer, according to the Ellen MacArthur Foundation, founded by the famous British yachtswoman, is to adopt the philosophy of the circular economy instead.

�A circular economy is based on the principles of designing out waste and pollution, keeping products and materials in use, and regenerating natural systems�, it says.

Let's go round again: The Ellen MacArthur Foundation, founded by the famous British sailor, pictured, promotes the circular economy, which is based on the principles of designing out waste and pollution, keeping products and materials in use, and regenerating natural systems.

This week a Circular Economy fund was launched by Blackrock, the Ellen MacArthur Foundation�s latest partner, to offer ordinary investors the chance to support � and hopefully profit from � firms adopting the approach.

Blackrock says it wants to drive investment in firms contributing to and benefiting from the transition to a circular economy.

Presumably, it has also spotted an opportunity to leap aboard a bandwagon gathering momentum, something neatly illustrated by a walk to the tube after the launch event that took me through the burgeoning Extinction Rebellion camp at Trafalgar Square.

The Ellen MacArthur Foundation�s expertise lies in how it helps firms big and small embrace the concept of the circular economy, rather than keep ploughing ahead with take-make-break business as usual.

It also gives a leg-up to those companies doing the innovative things that can make a difference in creating a better way of doing stuff.

It�s easy and tempting to dismiss this type of stuff as green washing, yet if you think about it properly it is hugely important.

A sudden global shift to socialism isn�t going to happen, so we need to get capitalism on side
Getting money to the innovators and encouraging existing businesses to change their ways is essential to stemming the pollution and waste the modern world churns out and to meeting climate targets, such as the 1.5 degree global warming cap.

Despite what some of the more deluded Extinction Rebellion campers may believe, a sudden global shift to socialism isn�t going to happen, so we need to get capitalism on side.

Speaking at the fund launch this week, Ellen MacArthur Foundation CEO Andrew Morlet spoke of three key areas for it, plastics, food and fashion and said that 45% of the world�s carbon emissions come from how we make and use products and produce what we eat.

All the things we are exhorted to do personally can collectively make a difference, but to really improve the situation wide-scale change at government and big company level is needed.

Maybe it doesn�t go far enough, but Unilever�s decision to halve its use of new plastics by 2025 is worth far more than any of us could ever put in our recycling bins.

The circular economy idea also tackles something that really bugs me - and I suspect many of our readers too: the infuriating wastefulness of our disposal society, where it is cheaper to throw something away than get it fixed.

I for one will back any philosophy that espouses getting a toaster mended rather than lobbing it into landfill.

Source: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/comment/article-7555485/Can-circular-economy-stop-capitalism-trashing-planet.html

Just finishing my coffee and I'll be off to the wall shortly...

# ? Oct 10, 2019 08:54

Dead Goon: Dec 13, 2002; No Obvious Flaws

I woke up this morning remembering I wanted to post this. Pregabalin and Tegretol destroy all ability to remember, so I'm posting it as a small victory to actually remembering something regardless:

quote:

Somebody told me to vote conservative
Tragedy is not known under this dimmest of lights
Everybody feels sick by the courtesy of dismay
Was I schooled without direction

Gold against the soul
Rock n' roll has a conscience
It supplies convenience
Gold against
Against the soul
Against the soul

Close the pits sanctify Roy Lynk an O.B.E.
Shareholding a piece of this loving country
Fossilize - make Yorkshire into a tourist resort
And dream of new ways to humble the poor

Gold against the soul
White liberal hates slavery
Needs Thai labour to clean his home
Gold erodes
Erodes the soul
Erodes the soul

A 1000 Marlboro death ignored everyday
And who gives a poo poo about sexuality

Gold against the soul
Working class cliches start here
Either cloth caps of smack victims
Gold destroyed
Destroyed the soul
Destroyed the soul

Dead Goon fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Oct 10, 2019

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:01

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

jabby posted:

Genuine question, what would be the best way for the West to tackle the Kurds/Turkey thing? Obviously abandoning them like Trump did is going to lead to a massacre/humanitarian crisis, but staying in the region as a permanent peacekeeping force is hardly going to work. Threaten Turkey with something unless they find a political solution? What's the best answer?

The Kurds have wanted to negotiate with Assad for a long time because of this eventuality but the us have refused to allow them while giving support. They're doing it now and it's probably too late but the control a lot of Syria's oil production

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:04

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

jabby posted:

Genuine question, what would be the best way for the West to tackle the Kurds/Turkey thing? Obviously abandoning them like Trump did is going to lead to a massacre/humanitarian crisis, but staying in the region as a permanent peacekeeping force is hardly going to work. Threaten Turkey with something unless they find a political solution? What's the best answer?

This assumes that the West even wants to help out, but the best way would be to acknowledge and support the Kurds new Bookchinian philosophy of guided municipal statelessness by forwarding it as a legitimate alternative to the nation-state as a concept, allowing them to negotiate with whoever they want as a bloc, and funneling money and arms not only to the Kurds but to other stateless groups with a commitment to non-state self determination.

They will do no such thing of course, because it's antithetical to the idea of the nation-state and Western nation-states would rather see a thousand genocides than that (as long as they're not genocides of white people).

StarkingBarfish posted:

Looking forward to the multi-part film series on Brexit that will be produced by the BBC propaganda dept as a psyop to convince the population brexit was good:

The Cumming Identity
The Cumming Ultimatum
The Cumming Supremacy
The Cumming Legacy

Much like the original the later ones will be poo poo.

At least go with a British franchise...

Dr Cum
You Only Cum Twice
The Man With The Golden Cum
Never Say Cum Again
Licence to Cum

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:12

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

As cumming as a fox who's just been appointed professor of cumming at Oxford university?

Speaking of I was woken up by two foxes shagging outside last night (I'm not sure if they were having fun or not but the noise sounded like a chimp attacking a baby). I can sleep through police sirens, shrieked drunken arguments, and (as a baby) a literal gasworks exploding, but this rural poo poo is out of order.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:13

StarkingBarfish: Jun 25, 2006; Novus Ordo Seclorum

Guavanaut posted:

This assumes that the West even wants to help out, but the best way would be to acknowledge and support the Kurds new Bookchinian philosophy of guided municipal statelessness by forwarding it as a legitimate alternative to the nation-state as a concept, allowing them to negotiate with whoever they want as a bloc, and funneling money and arms not only to the Kurds but to other stateless groups with a commitment to non-state self determination.

They will do no such thing of course, because it's antithetical to the idea of the nation-state and Western nation-states would rather see a thousand genocides than that (as long as they're not genocides of white people).

At least go with a British franchise...

Dr Cum
You Only Cum Twice
The Man With The Golden Cum
Never Say Cum Again
Licence to Cum

No, pretty sure the UK will be a US franchise post-brexit.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:14

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Last night I had a dream in which I discovered how to solve solipsism and it was staring me in the face this whole time. You just right-click on people and if they're only a few hundred KB then they're obviously not conscious.

I spent the rest of the dream being extremely smug about my discovery

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:19

Niric: Jul 23, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

This assumes that the West even wants to help out, but the best way would be to acknowledge and support the Kurds new Bookchinian philosophy of guided municipal statelessness by forwarding it as a legitimate alternative to the nation-state as a concept, allowing them to negotiate with whoever they want as a bloc, and funneling money and arms not only to the Kurds but to other stateless groups with a commitment to non-state self determination.

They will do no such thing of course, because it's antithetical to the idea of the nation-state and Western nation-states would rather see a thousand genocides than that (as long as they're not genocides of white people).

At least go with a British franchise...

Dr Cum
You Only Cum Twice
The Man With The Golden Cum
Never Say Cum Again
Licence to Cum

Dominic Cummings and the Philosopher's Cum
Dominic Cummings and the Chamber of Cum (or, Dominic Cumming's Testicles)
Dominic Cummings and the Prisoner of A Cum Ban
Dominic Cummings and the Goblet of Cum
Dominic Cummings and the Order to Cum
Dominic Cummings and the Half-Blood Cum
Dominic Cummings and the...Deathly Cum? [That's enough film titles - Ed]

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:22

Rustybear: Nov 16, 2006; what the thunder said

jabby posted:

Genuine question, what would be the best way for the West to tackle the Kurds/Turkey thing? Obviously abandoning them like Trump did is going to lead to a massacre/humanitarian crisis, but staying in the region as a permanent peacekeeping force is hardly going to work. Threaten Turkey with something unless they find a political solution? What's the best answer?

The same thing that prevented this happening until now; their military kit is all US supplied, so publicly call for a ceasefire and cut off their access to spares/support etc.

Turkey is a serious industrial power so this is harder than somewhere like Saudi Arabia which is literally just the thinnest Arabic puppet over US interests but they'd still get the message fast.

The calculus is simple tho, NATO needs Turkey, Turkey hates the Kurds; as soon as the US needs something from Turkey goodbye Kurds. The US doesn't keep stabbing them in the back accidentally; they need to temporarily build them up to have something to trade later. It's British Imperialism 101.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:23

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Niric posted:

Dominic Cummings and the Goblet of Cum

quote:

Dominic Cummings and the Half-Blood Cum

mods???

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:28

Niric: Jul 23, 2008

Niric posted:

This might be of interest to some people here: Momentum are launching a volunteer research project to "collate vital information about opposition candidates - and much more" for the (presumably) upcoming election. If you can spare ~3 hrs a week and want to help get a Labour government, sign up here:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfPBceytBGB9aZWyDMIDJivokm40sa7PuOoufmcPoEp-U383A/viewform

CGI Stardust posted:

Cheers for posting this, might sign up while I'm waiting for my Labour membership to get processed

An email has just gone out about this with more info and there's a webinar happening tomorrow at 7pm (which isn't mandatory fortunately since I can't make it, but sounds very useful) , so if anyone's interested PM me and I'll send over the details

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:29

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfelqZpapZA

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:37

justcola: May 22, 2004; La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

I really liked it when Emmeline Pankhurst sat on top of a chair and told everyone how much she loves the police. I loved it when Martin Luther King told everyone to just chill out as people were doing there jobs. It was cool when Ghandi didn't want to inconvenience anyone so let the British know exactly what he was thinking and where he'd be. It was really understanding for workers to say, hey, my child needs to earn a living to, don't want to cause a nuisance to anyone. Change isn't fought for, it's carefully negotiated.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:55

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

# ? Oct 10, 2019 09:58

Dead Goon: Dec 13, 2002; No Obvious Flaws

Extinction Rebellion is just LARPing, isn't it?

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:12

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Guavanaut posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfelqZpapZA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiHftejWSvU

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:14

Wachter: Mar 23, 2007; You and whose knees?

Niric posted:

Dominic Cummings and the Philosopher's Cum
Dominic Cummings and the Chamber of Cum (or, Dominic Cumming's Testicles)
Dominic Cummings and the Prisoner of A Cum Ban
Dominic Cummings and the Goblet of Cum
Dominic Cummings and the Order to Cum
Dominic Cummings and the Half-Blood Cum
Dominic Cummings and the...Deathly Cum? [That's enough film titles - Ed]

[Dommy Cummers, shurely? - Ed]

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:17

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Dead Goon posted:

Extinction Rebellion is just LARPing, isn't it?

I would not be surprised if it turns out that they were set up to undermine legitimate protest movements.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:18

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Niric posted:

the Philosopher's Cum

Linking for possible :nws:

even though it's a mildly famous statuette of a mildly famous event.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:23

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Man is a featherless tripod.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:30

Niric: Jul 23, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Linking for possible even though it's a mildly famous statuette of a mildly famous event.

Pictured: Slavoj �i�ek hard at work on 2017 treatise Incontinence of the Void: Economico-Philosophical Spandrels (MIT Press)

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:31

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Went to see the joker last night and for all the controversy it was actually really good. A bunch of people argued that it's an incel film that legitimises the violent outbursts of mediocre white men but having seen it you'd have to be an idiot to read it like that (or a centrist, in case there's a difference)

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:31

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

the head of XR is on question time tonight lol

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:33

Renaissance Robot: Oct 10, 2010; Bite my furry metal ass

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Surprising article in well-known capital-worshipping rag:

Can adopting a circular economy stop capitalism trashing the planet - and get your toaster fixed?

Source: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/comment/article-7555485/Can-circular-economy-stop-capitalism-trashing-planet.html

Just finishing my coffee and I'll be off to the wall shortly...

This is just recycling but rebranded with "no we really mean it this time, honest". And the version of recycling that's compatible with capitalism isn't really compatible with environmentalism imo, incentives to good behaviour that appeal to greed don't work because it's always easier for humans to game/cheat a human-designed rules system than to innovate their way to a practical solution*.

Capitalism is the problem, and is not worth saving or attempting to work with.

From last page, here's a perfect example:

Comrade Fakename posted:

It’s US news, but here’s a fun thread on the incredible benefits of a privatised electricity grid:

https://twitter.com/bedwardstiek/status/1182047040932470784?s=21

_{*tangentially, but worth mentioning: this is distinct from arguments about benefit cheats gaming government support, because those are relatively tiny amounts of money aimed at all people, whereas green subsidies are industrial scale quantities of cash specifically aimed at greedy capitalists, ie people who the system itself acknowledges are by definition predisposed towards seeking preposterous amounts of money for as little work as possible}

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:38

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Jose posted:

the head of XR is on question time tonight lol

Op confirmed

It'd also explain why they immediately got huge coverage all over the media

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:41

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Is there any chance that XR is doing the Ghandi-style "walk smilingly into their ~~machineguns~~prison cells" thing to try and normalise protest over climate crisis, and also make people see how even that friendliest, most cooperative activism gets cracked down, to show there's a need for far more radical action?

not that it makes it good or effective, but is there a goal behind trying to bring everyone in and then get them arrested as quickly as possible?

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:41

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# ? May 25, 2024 02:57

Chucat: Apr 14, 2006

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Speaking of I was woken up by two foxes shagging outside last night (I'm not sure if they were having fun or not but the noise sounded like a chimp attacking a baby). I can sleep through police sirens, shrieked drunken arguments, and (as a baby) a literal gasworks exploding, but this rural poo poo is out of order.

It's legitimately one of the worst noises I've ever heard, it's shockingly bad.

# ? Oct 10, 2019 10:44

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