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Servetus
Apr 1, 2010

Infidelicious posted:

American Style Destroyer Escorts would be considered KE's in game terms, BTW.


Literal Combat Ship Act

This act calls for the construction of 130m of new Fleet Destroyers capable of world wide deployments between our far flung outposts.

These ships must be capable of engaging other Destroyers with guns, and performing effective torpedo attacks upon the enemy.

They must have Medium Range, and normal Accommodations

These ships will be built in flights costing no more than 3.3k / month over the next 3.5 years.

Once built, older DD's will be placed in mothballs and reactivated as convoy escorts in war time.

Seconded

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frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Infidelicious posted:

Literal Combat Ship Act
I see what you did there!

Grizzwold
Jan 27, 2012

Posters off the pork bow!

Grey Hunter posted:



A whole 7 aircraft?

Well with funnels in the middle of the flight deck, how many more aircraft could they really fit on it? :v:

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

Grizzwold posted:

Well with funnels in the middle of the flight deck, how many more aircraft could they really fit on it? :v:

the other RTW2 LP currently ongoing had the AI design a battleship with a funnel piped through the middle of one of the turrets which still makes me chuckle occasionally

also holy Jesus that's a terrible loving ship, it can barely even put up a CAP. They may as well have just built an AV and saved a lot of money.

perfluorosapien
Aug 15, 2015

Oven Wrangler
Declare the End of the Age of Armored Cruisers

This chamber declares that the world's navies have advanced to domains where armored cruisers cannot follow. The concept of a craft too sluggish to pursue a light cruiser and too weak to drive off a battlecruiser has become a joke among naval architects. We formally recognize this new reality before the Russian people and the world.

  • If a new CA hull design is ordered, Grey must take a negative prestige option at the next opportunity.
  • If the legislature repeals, revokes, rescinds or otherwise backpedals on this declaration, this shall also oblige Grey to take a negative prestige option at the next opportunity.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


yurtcradled posted:

Declare the End of the Age of Armored Cruisers

This chamber declares that the world's navies have advanced to domains where armored cruisers cannot follow. The concept of a craft too sluggish to pursue a light cruiser and too weak to drive off a battlecruiser has become a joke among naval architects. We formally recognize this new reality before the Russian people and the world.

  • If a new CA hull design is ordered, Grey must take a negative prestige option at the next opportunity.
  • If the legislature repeals, revokes, rescinds or otherwise backpedals on this declaration, this shall also oblige Grey to take a negative prestige option at the next opportunity.

Ooh, spicy - I might have seconded this for fun role-playing reasons, but we just got superimposed turrets on CAs, so... no.

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.
My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser Act


This act calls for a new class of Battlecruiser.

It should be fast enough to reliably engage the new cruiser designs we are seeing (they are 29kts).

Its armor should difficult for opposing CAs to penetrate with 10 inch guns, and have a usable immunity zone against opposing BCs. This includes turret faces and the conning tower.

It should wield at least six large caliber guns.

The secondary guns must be turreted, to enable DP AA later. There should be enough secondary and tertiary guns that it's feasible to remove some for AA later.

One should be started immediately, and a second may be started within 24 months if the budget permits construction at least 2/3 of the time.

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

TheDemon posted:

My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser Act


This act calls for a new class of Battlecruiser.

It should be fast enough to reliably engage the new cruiser designs we are seeing (they are 29kts).

Its armor should difficult for opposing CAs to penetrate with 10 inch guns, and have a usable immunity zone against opposing BCs. This includes turret faces and the conning tower.

It should wield at least six large caliber guns.

The secondary guns must be turreted, to enable DP AA later. There should be enough secondary and tertiary guns that it's feasible to remove some for AA later.

One should be started immediately, and a second may be started within 24 months if the budget permits construction at least 2/3 of the time.

Seconded.

Aesculus
Mar 22, 2013

Blatant High Treason act

No gods no masters! The admiral is to refuse all requests given by the Tsar in the sternest possible manner until such a time when there is no longer a Tsar.

sloshmonger
Mar 21, 2013
I propose the Make up your drat mind Act

In the event that multiple acts pass that call for the building of the same class of ship in the same legislative session, the call for proposal will allow for designers to pick whatever attributes from any of the proposals they want, as long as they satisfy other requirements (such as No Ship Left Behind).

This Act is retroactive to include any proposals ratified during the same session that the Act is ratified.

Aesculus posted:

Blatant High Treason act

No gods no masters! The admiral is to refuse all requests given by the Tsar in the sternest possible manner until such a time when there is no longer a Tsar.

seconded

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 14 hours!
That Admiral Charner is a 1918 design. Not sure why its a new build... refit mebbe.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007


***PRIORITETY ISSLEDOVANIYE 01 JAN 1928 ST PETERSBURG***
YEYE IMPYERATORSKOYE VYELICHYESTVO (FEDOROVNA)
pre:
Research Area				Last research		Priority	Levels
Machinery development			Water wall furnace	Medium		13
Armour development			Interlocked armor plate	High		13
Hull construction			Weight saving		High		13
Fire control				Synthetic fire control	Low		18
Subdivision and damage control		Non flammable materials	High		8
Turrets and gun mountings		Improved quad turrets	High		14
Ship design				Superimposed CA turrets	MEDIUM		14
AP Projectiles				Improved ballistic cap	MEDIUM		9
Light forces and torpedo warfare	Above water tubes	High		14
Torpedo technology			Enhanced warhead explsv	High		14
Submarines				Increased battery cap	MEDIUM		13
ASW technology				Imp depth charge racks	MEDIUM		10
Explosive shells			Enh explosive filler	LOW		11
Fleet tactics				Concentration firing	Medium		9
Anti Aircraft artillery			HA geared sight		Medium		5
Naval aviation, lighter than air	Imp airship diesel eng	HIGH		7
Naval Aviation, heavier than air	Early air launch torps	HIGH		3
Shipboard aircraft operation		Transverse arrest wires	Medium		5
Amphibious operations			Elpidifor boats		Medium		2
Naval guns				16 inch guns		MEDIUM
Dearest admiral,
The Bureau of Ordinance hereby submits its research priorities and requests for aircraft for 1928. On the order of our beloved Tsarina, henceforth our communications shall be by handwritten letter, which we are informed is a much more pleasant and proper means by which civilized people such as ourselves ought to correspond.

The Tsarina has made numerous other changes at the Bureau. We are pleased to report that naval officers and enlisted men are even now being issued stylish new uniforms which accord to the latest fashions out of Paris. Additionally, shipboard rations, which were previously "simply dreadful," will be improved dramatically now that we are supplying refrigeration units starting with our capital ships and eventually working down to even our destroyers and corvettes. These "mechanical iceboxes" will permit our crews to dine on healthy salads and fresh milk, to replace the large quantities of salt pork etc. There may be something of an adjustment period but we are assured by the Tsarina that in time the navy will come to appreciate fancier food.

Unfortunately certain cutbacks have been necessary in order for the Bureau's budget to accommodate the recent changes. We must oblige the Navy to immediately halt all live ammunition practices, as two of our most productive munitions factories are presently being converted to produce sixteen new colors of saltwater-resistant hull paint.

Oh, did we mention the paint? The Tsarina has demanded that the "boring, drab greys and blacks" we have been painting our ships with must be replaced by a variety of exciting, flashy, well-coordinated patterns that will make our ships stand out as superior to those of our rivals. We have been supplied with a number of swatches (enclosed) which you may select from.

After entirely missing last year's report deadline due to the Tsarina's system-wide elimination of typewriters and telegrams from BuOrd's offices, we provide this year's new priorities. Her Majesty has been reading naval treatises and keeping up with the newspapers and you may be surprised to learn that she has now become something of an expert on naval technologies. It is her firm belief that a balanced, combined-arms methodology with an emphasis on aerial and submarine support of surface sorties is the best approach, particularly given our nation's need to defend new holdings on the Mediterranean with relatively light forces.

Along those lines, she has requested a new long-range, carrier-capable fighter, and wishes to encourage the legislature to improve the quantity and quality of our destroyer fleet.

Warmest regards,
BuOrd



ATTN: BY ORDER YEYE IMPYERATORSKOGO VYELICHYESTVO (FEDOROVNA)
The bureau of ordnance is pleased to announce a request for proposals for a new Russian long-range fighter model of aircraft! As the pace of aeronautical development quickens internationally, our country must keep up with its rivals overseas.
New Request:
1928: Fighter to be named the kulak korolevy (кулак королевы) or "Tsarina's Fist"
Prioritization of qualities:
1. Range
2. Firepower


Open requests:
1919 order: Bomber pukayushchiy al'batros or "Farting Albatross"
Prioritization of qualities:
1. Bomb Load
2. Toughness

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Bacarruda posted:

Gather Extra Technology Secretly, Maliciously, And RepeaTedly (G.E.T.S.M.A.R.T.) Act

Intelligence to HIGH on Japan, the United States, and Great Britain, as well as Austria and France.


Veloxyll posted:

We must Battle Cruisers

What it says on the tin. The naval office is to commission a new line of Battle Cruiser class wessels to counter the growing number of enemy cruisers.


Dance Officer posted:

Always more battleships act
Design and build a series of at least 2 BB. Proposals must have medium range at least, and normal quarters.


Pickled Tink posted:

Ugh. Extremely vague design parameters meaning that they aren't going to be interesting, just efficient and effective which is boring as hell. I wasn't going to bother with this since I don't even know if it is even possible and it almost certainly isn't reasonable, but this is my protest of vague design specifications in ship ordering.

The Spitefully Proposed and Possibly Impossible Act requires the designing of a Rapid Battlecruiser capable of chasing down anything else on the seas and able to engage and destroy anything its size or smaller. To this end, the vessel is required to have a maximum speed of no fewer than 40 knots. This vessel must also be capable of defending itself from the fixed-wing vermin of the skies.


Infidelicious posted:

American Style Destroyer Escorts would be considered KE's in game terms, BTW.


Literal Combat Ship Act

This act calls for the construction of 130m of new Fleet Destroyers capable of world wide deployments between our far flung outposts.

These ships must be capable of engaging other Destroyers with guns, and performing effective torpedo attacks upon the enemy.

They must have Medium Range, and normal Accommodations

These ships will be built in flights costing no more than 3.3k / month over the next 3.5 years.

Once built, older DD's will be placed in mothballs and reactivated as convoy escorts in war time.


yurtcradled posted:

Declare the End of the Age of Armored Cruisers

This chamber declares that the world's navies have advanced to domains where armored cruisers cannot follow. The concept of a craft too sluggish to pursue a light cruiser and too weak to drive off a battlecruiser has become a joke among naval architects. We formally recognize this new reality before the Russian people and the world.

  • If a new CA hull design is ordered, Grey must take a negative prestige option at the next opportunity.
  • If the legislature repeals, revokes, rescinds or otherwise backpedals on this declaration, this shall also oblige Grey to take a negative prestige option at the next opportunity.


TheDemon posted:

My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser Act


This act calls for a new class of Battlecruiser.

It should be fast enough to reliably engage the new cruiser designs we are seeing (they are 29kts).

Its armor should difficult for opposing CAs to penetrate with 10 inch guns, and have a usable immunity zone against opposing BCs. This includes turret faces and the conning tower.

It should wield at least six large caliber guns.

The secondary guns must be turreted, to enable DP AA later. There should be enough secondary and tertiary guns that it's feasible to remove some for AA later.

One should be started immediately, and a second may be started within 24 months if the budget permits construction at least 2/3 of the time.


Aesculus posted:

Blatant High Treason act

No gods no masters! The admiral is to refuse all requests given by the Tsar in the sternest possible manner until such a time when there is no longer a Tsar.

A good number to vote on again! so get to it!

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

Literal Combat Ship Act: AYE
Everything Else: NAY

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013

Zikan posted:

Literal Combat Ship Act: AYE
Everything Else: NAY

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Zikan posted:

Literal Combat Ship Act: AYE
Everything Else: NAY

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

Zikan posted:

Literal Combat Ship Act: AYE
Everything Else: NAY

King Hong Kong
Nov 6, 2009

For we'll fight with a vim
that is dead sure to win.

Zikan posted:

Literal Combat Ship Act: AYE
Everything Else: NAY

Same.

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe
I'm voting Aye for my own Spitefully Proposed and Possibly Impossible act and I guess the Literal Combat Ship act. Everything else can go where the Tsarina shoved the typewriters.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Aye to all

Man, I set a gun requirement, p[eople complain.
No parameters besides class, people complain!

GOONS

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




simplefish posted:

Ooh, spicy - I might have seconded this for fun role-playing reasons, but we just got superimposed turrets on CAs, so... no.

Yeah, we're at the point of being able to build real heavy cruisers instead of fancy armored cruisers.

And I just missed the line to propose,

Upgrade the Imperator Garpun

The Imperator Garpun is a good ship, but at 22 kn she's holding the rest of the battleline back.

Whenever we advance in engine technology, evaluate an upgrade to the machinery on the Imperator Garpun. As soon as we can increase her speed to 23 knots and add some AA firepower. The rebuild (including the latest fire control) takes sufficient priority over the next build to get it started next of any other large construction orders,

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010
My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser Act
Literal Combat Ship

AYE

NAY to everything else

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
Aye to My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser and Literal Combat Ship, nay to everything else.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Veloxyll posted:

Aye to all

Man, I set a gun requirement, p[eople complain.
No parameters besides class, people complain!

GOONS

I might have voted for it if not for the fact that we're still building a loving battleship that no one wants to scrap because of the sunk costs.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Danann posted:

I might have voted for it if not for the fact that we're still building a loving battleship that no one wants to scrap because of the sunk costs.

I mean, mostly I meant this gem: " Ugh. Extremely vague design parameters meaning that they aren't going to be interesting, just efficient and effective which is boring as hell. I wasn't going to bother with this since I don't even know if it is even possible and it almost certainly isn't reasonable, but this is my protest of vague design specifications in ship ordering."

Servetus
Apr 1, 2010
Literal Combat Ship Act - AYE

My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser Act - AYE

Spitefully Proposed and Possibly Impossible - AYE

All Others - NAY

Servetus fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Oct 11, 2019

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
Yey to everything

Tevery Best
Oct 11, 2013

Hewlo Furriend
GETSMART Act - Yes
LCS Act - Yes

Everything Else - No

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

LCS Act-Yea

All Others-Nay

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Literal Combat Ship - Aye
My Kingdom for a Battlecruiser - Aye

Everything else - Nay

Zip!
Aug 14, 2008

Keep on pushing
little buddy

Zikan posted:

Literal Combat Ship Act: AYE
Everything Else: NAY

shalafi4
Feb 20, 2011

another medical bills avatar
Gather Extra Technology Secretly, Maliciously, And RepeaTedly (G.E.T.S.M.A.R.T.) Act Aye

We must Battle Cruisers nay

Always more battleships act Nay

Spitefully Proposed and Possibly Impossible Aye

Literal Combat Ship Act Aye

Declare the End of the Age of Armored Cruisers Nay

My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser Act Nay

Blatant High Treason Nay

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser Act
Literal Combat Ship

AYE

NAY to everything else

I vote this as well.

sloshmonger
Mar 21, 2013
Yes to all

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

Gather Extra Technology Secretly, Maliciously, And RepeaTedly (G.E.T.S.M.A.R.T.) Act: Nay

We must Battle Cruisers: nay

Always more battleships act: Nay

Spitefully Proposed and Possibly Impossible: Aye

Literal Combat Ship Act: Aye

Declare the End of the Age of Armored Cruisers: Nay

My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser Act: Yay

Blatant High Treason: Nay

Brute Squad fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Oct 11, 2019

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
LCSA Aye and all the others nay

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.
We must Battle Cruisers: Yay
My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser Act: Yay
all the others nay

Infidelicious
Apr 9, 2013

vyelkin posted:

Literal Combat Ship - Aye
My Kingdom for a Battlecruiser - Aye

Everything else - Nay

Though CAs are totes obsolete imo

Imperial Officer
Oct 21, 2010
Literal Combat Ship Act - AYE

My Kingdom For A Battlecruiser Act - AYE

Spitefully Proposed and Possibly Impossible - AYE

All Others - NAY

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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Pickled Tink posted:

The Spitefully Proposed and Possibly Impossible Act requires the designing of a Rapid Battlecruiser capable of chasing down anything else on the seas and able to engage and destroy anything its size or smaller. To this end, the vessel is required to have a maximum speed of no fewer than 40 knots. This vessel must also be capable of defending itself from the fixed-wing vermin of the skies.

I tried to put something together of this in the old save for comparison purposes.

The game has hard limits on speed/displacement. 40 kTs is unattainable at any displacement. But we can reinterpret to be maximum speed possible.

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