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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



teen witch posted:

NDT, you loving Uncle Tom.

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Your Boy Fancy
Feb 7, 2003

by Cyrano4747

Ershalim posted:

Because I hadn't seen that white supremacist symbol before, I went digging a little. So if you're interested:

The symbol he's got tatted is called the wolfsangel: https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/wolfsangel

That shirt is apparently https://twitter.com/BenediktMaier/status/1182489863658115072

from a website called "Operation Werewolf" which in its about statement says


Neat!

The more insidious bits of white supremacy are that they've turned self-improvement methods into toxic cultures that set off red flags. We shouldn't be rolling our eyes at "make your bed" and "live your life cleanly."

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

i wasn't sure if the white house had cleared sondland to testify which is why he was now willing to testify: apparently not, state is still telling him not to and he's choosing to listen to the subpoena and ignore the state department

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1182638663433363456

he's still probably going to stick to the company line but it's interesting

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Data Graham posted:

Uhh Slovenia doesn't use Cyrillic though?

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Slovene uses a modified Latin alphabet

lol yeah nevermind, looked it up and you're right. Figured incorrectly but I'm not gonna carry water for the guy

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Love it when our federal government departments all just line up and say "Yeah ignore that Congressional subpoena"

a slime
Apr 11, 2005

Your Boy Fancy posted:

The more insidious bits of white supremacy are that they've turned self-improvement methods into toxic cultures that set off red flags. We shouldn't be rolling our eyes at "make your bed" and "live your life cleanly."

I think this is just a general strategy used to influence vulnerable groups of people. One of Jordan Peterson’s hooks is “why you should clean your room”.

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

a slime posted:

I think this is just a general strategy used to influence vulnerable groups of people. One of Jordan Peterson’s hooks is “why you should clean your room”.

This has been a strategy of cults for as long as cults have existed.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

a slime posted:

I think this is just a general strategy used to influence vulnerable groups of people. One of Jordan Peterson’s hooks is “why you should clean your room”.

Yeah a big thing with cults and the like is they will look for vulnerable people and shower them with love... at first. That builds loyalty and for some people meets a need that they've been missing, and they start recovering. But that love has strings, and it can be used to pull them deeper and deeper into their belief system.

It's also decent advice, so it doesn't trigger alarms and makes warnings against them seem alarmist. By the time the groups are sharing really crazy poo poo the person is already incorporated and proven their loyalty

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
https://twitter.com/politicalwire/status/1182636707293872128

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Peterson's advice and conservative politics both use the idea that you shouldn't try to fix the world until you have fixed yourself, so it's important that his approach to self-improvement has no actual end.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



evilweasel posted:

i wasn't sure if the white house had cleared sondland to testify which is why he was now willing to testify: apparently not, state is still telling him not to and he's choosing to listen to the subpoena and ignore the state department

he's still probably going to stick to the company line but it's interesting

at least that's their story, yeah. the sudden influx of reports last night that republican allies now want Sondland to testify because they think it will help them sure seems suspicious though, especially given that he's still refusing to turn over documents and texts

anyways, all those people are insanely stupid, and if this guy thinks he's going to go in and lie he's going to get hosed, so this is probably a good thing overall

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

eke out posted:

at least that's their story, yeah. the sudden influx of reports last night that republican allies now want Sondland to testify because they think it will help them sure seems suspicious though, especially given that he's still refusing to turn over documents and texts

anyways, all those people are insanely stupid, and if this guy thinks he's going to go in and lie he's going to get hosed, so this is probably a good thing overall

In a sane world it would be because they want him to test the waters for defying the State department orders, hoping they'll blink and giving the rest of them courage to step forward and end this insanity

But who the gently caress knows any more

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

eke out posted:

at least that's their story, yeah. the sudden influx of reports last night that republican allies now want Sondland to testify because they think it will help them sure seems suspicious though, especially given that he's still refusing to turn over documents and texts

anyways, all those people are insanely stupid, and if this guy thinks he's going to go in and lie he's going to get hosed, so this is probably a good thing overall

yeah my assumption is republicans realize that he's a political appointee and will lie for them, and he thinks he's smart enough to get away with it, so they're like why the gently caress is the white house trying to stop this

the white house probably thinks that they need to take a blanket "no testifying" position so that they're not doing the work of identifying who is and isn't a good witness and to make it have a tiny sliver of credibility

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I look forward to listening to republicans ask sondland to describe the moment when he knew that Trump had nothing but love in his heart for as much time as they're allowed to waste.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Data Graham posted:

Uhh Slovenia doesn't use Cyrillic though?

But the KGB does! :tinfoil:

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

empty whippet box posted:

I look forward to listening to republicans ask sondland to describe the moment when he knew that Trump had nothing but love in his heart for as much time as they're allowed to waste.

the previous demand he testify was for a closed-door deposition

if they've shifted this to open committee hearings then he may be able to effectively filibuster it yep

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



empty whippet box posted:

I look forward to listening to republicans ask sondland to describe the moment when he knew that Trump had nothing but love in his heart for as much time as they're allowed to waste.

(1) it won't be public
(2) congressional depositions don't work that way, the sides alternate 30 minute periods with (usually) staffers asking questions, without a time limit - and, from what i've seen, usually republicans just give up after one or two rounds with these types of witnesses because there's no point wasting time time in this format and any question they don't know the answer to is a risk. Volker's was over nine hours long

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Ershalim posted:

Because I hadn't seen that white supremacist symbol before, I went digging a little. So if you're interested:

The symbol he's got tatted is called the wolfsangel: https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/wolfsangel

That shirt is apparently https://twitter.com/BenediktMaier/status/1182489863658115072

from a website called "Operation Werewolf" which in its about statement says


Neat!

"Operation Werewolf" was the code name for a plan for Nazi insurgents to continue to fight after Nazi Germany fell to the allies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werwolf#Operations

CascadeBeta
Feb 14, 2009

by Cyrano4747

SimonCat posted:

"Operation Werewolf" was the code name for a plan for Nazi insurgents to continue to fight after Nazi Germany fell to the allies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werwolf#Operations

Wish someone would kick them in the nuts over and over while shouting WOLFMAN'S GOT NARDS!

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

eke out posted:

(1) it won't be public
(2) congressional depositions don't work that way, the sides alternate 30 minute periods with (usually) staffers asking questions, without a time limit - and, from what i've seen, usually republicans just give up after one or two rounds with these types of witnesses because there's no point wasting time time in this format and any question they don't know the answer to is a risk. Volker's was over nine hours long

I would expect that republicans ask some pre-arranged questions to elicit specific talking points they plan to use, but then yeah - there's no point in deposing a friendly witness. generally you'll just ask a friendly witness any questions you need to clarify an answer that you think was unclear or to prod them to fix something they screwed up, so a deposition will be something like 7 hours for the adverse side and maybe five to ten minutes for the friendly side.

i would expect more than the usual 5-10 minutes here because he's going to want to tell his side of the story but once you've gotten all of that out, then yeah no point

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Great, now I have to turn off Bluetooth

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Fight white supremacy: leave your beds messy.

bowser
Apr 7, 2007

https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1182642966999044098?s=19

https://twitter.com/BrittneyBush/status/1182123881923919872?s=19

:unsmigghh:

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

SimonCat posted:

"Operation Werewolf" was the code name for a plan for Nazi insurgents to continue to fight after Nazi Germany fell to the allies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werwolf#Operations

Sounds like Nazi Gladio

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005




If our for profit system has hosed you up please seek assistance from tax payer funded systems.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
Hasn't NDT been a confirmed piece of poo poo for a while now? There was the sexual harassment and then the great hot take about how actually other things kill us more than guns so why flip out about them. Probably other things I'm forgetting too.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

And in the background a faint whisper was heard; "Are Troops"

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Use your own resources if you have an LVAD or on dialysis lmao

hope you dont need insulin to stay cold.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Ginette Reno posted:

Hasn't NDT been a confirmed piece of poo poo for a while now? There was the sexual harassment and then the great hot take about how actually other things kill us more than guns so why flip out about them. Probably other things I'm forgetting too.

The sexual harrasment investigation didn't find anything. He can still be an rear end at times, but he's not on the level of Dawkins or Krauss or the other scientist POS's that were associated with Epstein and Misogyny.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

Does... does he actually think this is a good burn?

Like there are a billion ways you could cleverly insult Joe Biden and this is the best they've got?

Daddy said it so 1, it's him being a lickspittle hoping daddy gives him some sign of praise, and 2, it's Donald Trump Jr, a well known window licking moron

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1182654371714211840

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Goddamn hurricane of fire down there.

https://twitter.com/harmonyanders/status/1182652798376132613?s=21

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

:lol: I hope this guy has kids and I hope he lives a long life.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Sounds like Nazi Gladio

More like the inverse. Wouldn't be surprised if Werwulf inspired the reasoning being setting up Gladio.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

"He told me I have the greatest Hotels and a big dick. There is no Taiwan. Only China"

Retro42
Jun 27, 2011



Every time he tweets about China he's just helping some ultra-rich donors make bank on the stock market.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

lurker2006 posted:

The chuds have been making some noise about this.
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1182026958718279680

The MP in question was an advisor to Yanukovich's PM, and apparently spent a whole bunch of time spreading conspiracy theories about the previous national bank head.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Can't stop laughing at "use your own resources."

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Ershalim posted:

Because I hadn't seen that white supremacist symbol before, I went digging a little. So if you're interested:

The symbol he's got tatted is called the wolfsangel: https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/wolfsangel

That shirt is apparently https://twitter.com/BenediktMaier/status/1182489863658115072

from a website called "Operation Werewolf" which in its about statement says


Neat!

Runic symbols have been coopted by fascists and it's a good bet to be at least suspicious when you see them tatted or displayed; and very obviously a fascist symbol when coupled with... everything these dudes were wearing.

A good slideshow:
https://docs.google.com/presentatio...0000&slide=id.p

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pacerhimself
Dec 30, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Retro42 posted:

Every time he tweets about China he's just helping some ultra-rich donors make bank on the stock market.

Just lol that anybody thinks he's scheming with donors to pump up the market.

Bigger numbers = better

That's all there is to it

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