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saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

Koalas March posted:

Never call the cops

This. The thought of a black man calling an overwhelmingly white police force to make a wellness check on a black woman just boggles the mind.

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LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Koalas March posted:

Yeah he called for a wellness check and has been struggling with the guilt. I can't even imagine.


Never call the cops

It's almost like giving state-sponsored lawless actors--who famously sit at the roaring confluence of cowardice and prejudice--the levity to use lethal force was a bad idea from the beginning.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Koalas March posted:

Yeah he called for a wellness check and has been struggling with the guilt. I can't even imagine.


Never call the cops

lol remember when a cop also was called in by one of those life alert services and also shot the old person.




(99.99999% the person was also nonwhite)

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

LeeMajors posted:

It's almost like giving state-sponsored lawless actors--who famously sit at the roaring confluence of cowardice and prejudice--the levity to use lethal force was a bad idea from the beginning.

A white woman called the police cause she thought she heard a woman being raped in an alley by her house was killed by the cops that responded. Happened a few months ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/justine-damond-shooting

Cops hear a sound after clearing the area as safe and their first instinct is to draw their guns and shoot immediately.

Cops are cowards, and are bad.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/yenisafak/status/1183028907693477888?s=20
“```Hevin Halef, Secretary General of the Future Party of Syria, one of the political extensions of the terrorist organization PYD in Syria, was neutralized by a successful operation.```”

This is rage inducing in a way I never thought I'd be enraged.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

holy poo poo

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

saintonan posted:

This. The thought of a black man calling an overwhelmingly white police force to make a wellness check on a black woman just boggles the mind.

I mean, I'm not shocked. Even if you're a fairly strong 'yea no poo poo I don't trust the cops when they talk about arrests and all' person we're kinda taught from a young age that the one job of the cops is to protect us and keep us safe. Even in communities badly hurt by them there's plenty of people who at least think poo poo like 'literally just a wellness check' should be murder free, and it's hard to blame them for having basic faith in the world despite evidence around them. I feel horrible for that guy, I can't imagine how crushing it must feel to have good intents like that and have such a monstrous thing happen.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

saintonan posted:

This. The thought of a black man calling an overwhelmingly white police force to make a wellness check on a black woman just boggles the mind.

We've come so far.

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

PhazonLink posted:

lol remember when a cop also was called in by one of those life alert services and also shot the old person.




(99.99999% the person was also nonwhite)

That would be Kenneth Chamberlain Sr.



E: No charges were ever filed, the police internal review deemed the shooting "justified" because "negotiations and ... all non-lethal means were unsuccessful," and the family's civil suit failed.

Stickman fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Oct 13, 2019

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


PhazonLink posted:

lol remember when a cop also was called in by one of those life alert services and also shot the old person.




(99.99999% the person was also nonwhite)

Romes128 posted:

A white woman called the police cause she thought she heard a woman being raped in an alley by her house was killed by the cops that responded. Happened a few months ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/justine-damond-shooting

Cops hear a sound after clearing the area as safe and their first instinct is to draw their guns and shoot immediately.

Cops are cowards, and are bad.

I work 911 EMS and frequently find weapons on and around patients on 'safe scenes.'

It's impossible to overstate how often I am surprised at the malignant cesspool of indifference, laziness, and spitefulness I see throughout every local agency.

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

saintonan posted:

This. The thought of a black man calling an overwhelmingly white police force to make a wellness check on a black woman just boggles the mind.

This really feels like you're judging him for not being as smart as you, Internet Person Who's Too Smart To Ever Trust A Cop.

Everybody gets the same mass media conditioning about police being the good guys in potentially dangerous situations, and he had no reason to think that a non-emergency wellness check would be so dangerous. That's half a step past "getting kitty out of a tree" in Officer Friendly gimmes for police PR. The fault here is on the cop who couldn't even manage to not gently caress that up, not the guy who called them in good faith.

CHEF!!!
Feb 22, 2001


Just throw more fuel on the impeachment fire; the more, the merrier. I cannot wait for the reading of evidence prior to the impeachment vote to need a lunch break.

Also, serious question that I sometimes wonder about. Why do we not start pushing for police officers using rubber bullets and only switching to live ammo when they're under fire? Police unions and fraternal orders would screech like howler monkeys thrown into woodchippers? It would probably encourage cops to be even more trigger happy because they're using less-than-lethal ammo? Both?

bowser
Apr 7, 2007

https://twitter.com/BenMathisLilley/status/1183197679523942401?s=19

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1183201988441448449?s=19

https://twitter.com/WendySiegelman/status/1183046380497129472?s=19

Pretty sure we're eventually gonna find out there's a photo of Trump and Lev at the Overlook Hotel in 1921.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Space Gopher posted:

This really feels like you're judging him for not being as smart as you, Internet Person Who's Too Smart To Ever Trust A Cop.

Everybody gets the same mass media conditioning about police being the good guys in potentially dangerous situations, and he had no reason to think that a non-emergency wellness check would be so dangerous. That's half a step past "getting kitty out of a tree" in Officer Friendly gimmes for police PR. The fault here is on the cop who couldn't even manage to not gently caress that up, not the guy who called them in good faith.

Yeah, and there's no other alternative really in most places. Not to mention the risk of being shot for checking it out yourself because our insane country is awash in readily-available firearms.

Amazing Zimmo
Jan 27, 2006

That's quite a load you got in them diapers
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1183203332225196032

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Honesty Trump has associated himself with so many criminals that I can totally buy that he doesn’t recall being photographed with these specific ones.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Look, I can’t be expected to keep track of ALL the crimes, ok?

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


As it's the weekend, let's have some music!

A Message to You Rudy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbqiCxEIeEo

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

https://twitter.com/andrewsweiss/status/1183188760822984704?s=19
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1183202459793215488?s=19

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

"Hold on, I forgot what line of the Narcissist's Prayer we were on. Let me check..."

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

:allbuttons:

It's so ridiculous

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://mobile.twitter.com/RanttMedia/status/1181320175683067905

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Angry_Ed posted:

Trump's brain is permanently stuck in the 50s.

The 1850s.

id put him weird 1890s through 1920s brain.


CHEF!!! posted:

Just throw more fuel on the impeachment fire; the more, the merrier. I cannot wait for the reading of evidence prior to the impeachment vote to need a lunch break.

Also, serious question that I sometimes wonder about. Why do we not start pushing for police officers using rubber bullets and only switching to live ammo when they're under fire? Police unions and fraternal orders would screech like howler monkeys thrown into woodchippers? It would probably encourage cops to be even more trigger happy because they're using less-than-lethal ammo? Both?

because american police system is hosed and bean bag rounds can still kill(unless batman fires them out of a tank, than they are always non lethal)




so many john deans.



Koalas March posted:

Yeah he called for a wellness check and has been struggling with the guilt. I can't even imagine.


Never call the cops

yeah. i was coming home from work today and saw a cop car pulled over and group of people yelling at the cops that "he didnt do anything" or something to that effect, i think i saw a cop with a dude on the ground and one dude over by the side maybe with his hands up. its semi ruralish white area and it was by a 4 way light at 10 at night. when i went past i saw like 5 more cop cars speeding to the scene. guess i will see in the local news.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Dapper_Swindler posted:

so many john deans.

Trump might be willing to blow off Congress, but he has involved enough low level people who can't take that risk

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

The Glumslinger posted:

Trump might be willing to blow off Congress, but he has involved enough low level people who can't take that risk

We're on the verge of going from Crime Dilation to a Crime Paradox...

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Furnaceface posted:

So he is no longer just a threat to America but the entire world.

Cool.

:smithicide:

I remember shortly after he was elected a bunch of dumbasses argued that he wouldn't be able to do a lot of damage because, y'know, the powers of the office of the President are like, TOTALLY LIMITED and stuff! :jerkbag:

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Flesh Forge posted:

I remember shortly after he was elected a bunch of dumbasses argued that he wouldn't be able to do a lot of damage because, y'know, the powers of the office of the President are like, TOTALLY LIMITED and stuff! :jerkbag:

We did have a couple of years where he was too stupid to properly abuse them, and the people around him were smart enough to limit him. But over time he figured out what actually works and how to get rid of people who could say no.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



A guy I know ... I've been having a really hard time talking to him as a friend ever since over a year ago I found out that, years ago, he was a cop briefly.

He has no idea why I suddenly became so standoffish and chilly toward him. He's emotionally fragile and I feel terrible about it, but... I don't know what I can do about it. As far as I'm concerned at this point, cops in this country are no better than terrorists.

Like maybe he was "one of the good ones" and I should commend him for getting out? Like I should commend him for regretting the Trump vote he cast after being bullied into it by his overbearing Mormon parents? I don't even know. He's the kind of guy it's unfair to heap any kind of judgment on, he completely means well and any damage he does is because he's someone else's collateral damage, but ... after this many news stories I don't have it in me to be that grown-up about this

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!

I thought that this picture of G-man was the aforementioned photo and was very confused.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Data Graham posted:

A guy I know ... I've been having a really hard time talking to him as a friend ever since over a year ago I found out that, years ago, he was a cop briefly.

He has no idea why I suddenly became so standoffish and chilly toward him. He's emotionally fragile and I feel terrible about it, but... I don't know what I can do about it. As far as I'm concerned at this point, cops in this country are no better than terrorists.

Like maybe he was "one of the good ones" and I should commend him for getting out? Like I should commend him for regretting the Trump vote he cast after being bullied into it by his overbearing Mormon parents? I don't even know. He's the kind of guy it's unfair to heap any kind of judgment on, he completely means well and any damage he does is because he's someone else's collateral damage, but ... after this many news stories I don't have it in me to be that grown-up about this

id be more mad at him for the trump vote than he was cop for a little bit. i am more of a systemic acab more than a literal one so idk. i mean one of my best friends was private prison guard, than he almost got murdered and now he helps the mentally disabled find and keep work.

Ershalim
Sep 22, 2008
Clever Betty

LeeMajors posted:

I work 911 EMS and frequently find weapons on and around patients on 'safe scenes.'

It's impossible to overstate how often I am surprised at the malignant cesspool of indifference, laziness, and spitefulness I see throughout every local agency.

Just want to echo the gently caress out of this. I get called to "safe scenes" where there've been knives, guns, police escorts that clearly aren't even in the vicinity, and once to what was, apparently, an in-progress armed robbery.

But, honestly, those are usually better than the ones where the police are taking an active interest. I've had patients given to me handcuffed in positions they couldn't breathe in, I've had patients that the call came in as a bug bite and got there to find the police had clearly beaten the poo poo out of them, etc., etc.. The problem is that even if you document it and report it, nothing ever gets done about it.

gently caress the police. gently caress Trump. gently caress Turkey. Today was a motherfucker. Stay safe goons, if you need a break, take one. Hug a dog.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Dapper_Swindler posted:

id be more mad at him for the trump vote than he was cop for a little bit. i am more of a systemic acab more than a literal one so idk. i mean one of my best friends was private prison guard, than he almost got murdered and now he helps the mentally disabled find and keep work.

I mean, the Trump vote is why I'm chilly toward him all the rest of the time that I'm not hearing stories about cops being monsters. Thing is, he regrets the vote, even tries feebly to argue with his parents about it. He doesn't regret being a cop.

Once he replied angrily to a tweet of the "blue line" flag with the blue line being stripped away to show a Nazi flag underneath, and was all like "I'll always stand up for our boys in blue!!! :mad:" He had no idea he was saying anything remotely controversial

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Data Graham posted:

I mean, the Trump vote is why I'm chilly toward him all the rest of the time that I'm not hearing stories about cops being monsters. Thing is, he regrets the vote, even tries feebly to argue with his parents about it. He doesn't regret being a cop.

Once he replied angrily to a tweet of the "blue line" flag with the blue line being stripped away to show a Nazi flag underneath, and was all like "I'll always stand up for our boys in blue!!! :mad:" He had no idea he was saying anything remotely controversial

he is an idiot from the sound of it. clearly he was too dumb to keep being a cop.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


We call the cops for wellness checks at work all the time. It's not always a good option but there isn't really an alternative either.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Kinda yeah. :smith:

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

saintonan posted:

So did the white neighbor deliberately call the cops on the black woman knowing there was at least a decent chance the cop would murder her?

Calling the cops is attempted murder against whoever is there when they show up

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Data Graham posted:

A guy I know ... I've been having a really hard time talking to him as a friend ever since over a year ago I found out that, years ago, he was a cop briefly.

If it really is just that revelation without any further context, then, yeah I think you're being kind of weird about it.

Edit: Well going by subsequent posts looks like there indeed is some more context here

SidneyIsTheKiller fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Oct 13, 2019

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Data Graham posted:

A guy I know ... I've been having a really hard time talking to him as a friend ever since over a year ago I found out that, years ago, he was a cop briefly.

He has no idea why I suddenly became so standoffish and chilly toward him. He's emotionally fragile and I feel terrible about it, but... I don't know what I can do about it. As far as I'm concerned at this point, cops in this country are no better than terrorists.

Like maybe he was "one of the good ones" and I should commend him for getting out? Like I should commend him for regretting the Trump vote he cast after being bullied into it by his overbearing Mormon parents? I don't even know. He's the kind of guy it's unfair to heap any kind of judgment on, he completely means well and any damage he does is because he's someone else's collateral damage, but ... after this many news stories I don't have it in me to be that grown-up about this

jesus christ dude

being a police officer or some other law enforcement position is explicitly seen in culture as a position to help your community, people aspire to be cops when they grow up to do so less as a free pass to go shoot every minority around

that just tends to come up when lovely people are cops and there are a lot of lovely people, don't go "what the gently caress you had the GALL to be a cop at some point of your life???"

now if he was a lovely cop sure but dude all the vast majority of cops do in this country is hand of a speeding ticket every now and then for some punk rear end flooring it through a schoolzone

unilaterally hate all doctors or anyone even associated with the medical profession for the insurance scam that is healthcare costs too, sure

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/10/12/27303463/portland-activist-killed-after-gunfire-suv-collision-near-cider-riot

RIP

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The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

We call the cops for wellness checks at work all the time. It's not always a good option but there isn't really an alternative either.

We really need some kind of emergency response social worker system

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