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IPCRESS posted:What I'm hearing is that SA-21s in the hands of non state actors is a thing that might happen. Only if Russian troops on vacation are driving them in the prospective new Russian Oblast.
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I knew that was an F-18 but I also refused to accept that was an F-18 because of the colors and the Russian rondel. I know opfor training is a thing but my mind still couldn't parse that. v0v
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With the one on the tail, I just assumed Jerry Jones went mad with power and started buying fighter aircraft.
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This video runs long, but the first minute or two has good shots of Ospreys popping flares and doing evasive maneuvers during MANPADS avoidance training. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yptyKUSjBT4
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mlmp08 posted:
Swedish People's Army Air Force F/A-18
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mlmp08 posted:This video runs long, but the first minute or two has good shots of Ospreys popping flares and doing evasive maneuvers during MANPADS avoidance training. Trick title, all ground is a threat for the Osprey
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It’s bad, Jim.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/russia-bombing-syrian-hospitals.html NY Times did an investigation cross referencing radio recordings, social media, and spotter logs to prove Russian bombers were deliberately targeting hospitals in Syria.
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Oct 13, 2019 16:32
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US pilots asked to pop Turkish forces https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1183183910764765186?s=09
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Alaan posted:US pilots asked to pop Turkish forces What the gently caress is going on?!
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Captain Log posted:What the gently caress is going on?! Infrastructure week
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Syrian Lannister posted:Infrastructure week https://twitter.com/donoteat1/status/1183409101327536128?s=21 He has added Groverhaus to Cities: Skyline. This isn’t very airpower but anything to, for 10 seconds, take my mind off CENTCOM.
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Captain Log posted:What the gently caress is going on?! This entire thing centers around Trump unilaterally yanking the rug out from under the Turks in a very sudden and unexpected way. I doubt Trump actually knew much of anything about the Kurds or the coalition supporting them, nor did he likely consider things like "consequences" when he did this. There are decent odds he was convinced after a bit of ego stroking in a 1:1 call with Erdogan that it would make him look good for personally pulling US troops out of the Middle East and ~even getting paid to do it~ or whatever. When he eventually realizes the obvious (that it makes him look like a tremendous moron and/or rear end in a top hat even to half of his own base) he'll immediately flip-flop and try to do something to make himself look like less of a sucker in the process. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Oct 13, 2019 |
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Okay but what the gently caress is going on? Who's invading? Is the SAA fighting the Turks? What's happening to SDF? Who controls the skies? I'm lost. I'm hearing we're pulling more troops back.
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Hauldren Collider posted:Okay but what the gently caress is going on? Who's invading? Is the SAA fighting the Turks? What's happening to SDF? Who controls the skies? I'm lost. I'm hearing we're pulling more troops back. Turkey, No, They're fighting the Turks, Turkey controls the skies.
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This will clear it all up https://twitter.com/facethenation/status/1183371189256884231?s=21 Wait, poo poo, I meant to post an explainer about Midichlorians
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So part of my guess was right. Congrats on our former allies switching sides.
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And there it isreuters posted:BEIRUT/QAMISHLI, Syria, (Reuters) - The Syrian government and the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces have been holding negotiations at a Russian airbase in Syria, a Syrian Kurdish politician told Reuters on Sunday, expressing hope for a deal that would halt a Turkish attack. e: poo poo, thought this was in GIP. gimme a sixer or whatever dubzee fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Oct 13, 2019 |
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mlmp08 posted:This video runs long, but the first minute or two has good shots of Ospreys popping flares and doing evasive maneuvers during MANPADS avoidance training. this is fantastic training and i wish like hell i was able to get smokey sams* for my guys. unfortunately if you're asking army range control civilians (or the ASP) for loving anything outside of the usual qualification fire they're used to, they act like you're asking for their firstborn child. glad to see the marines having better luck. building realistic aerial gunnery ranges (not just the lame-rear end "fly down a corridor and shoot this car/spray paint/pile of rocks") was definitely one of the more fun parts of my job. *my only criticism is that the real thing moves incredibly fast, like hard-for-your-mind-to-process fast. but the training value is still solid.
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One time I was around for a training event where a smokey SAM scared the pilot so hard that he insisted the door gunner open fire. A couple times. Despite questioning the order. Fortunately, no one was killed when the door gunner let fly with the minigun. Pilot apparently forgot he was on a no-fire range where smokey SAMs are not to be fired upon as opposed to the remotely fired smokey SAM range where returning fire is authorized.
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mlmp08 posted:One time I was around for a training event where a smokey SAM scared the pilot so hard that he insisted the door gunner open fire. A couple times. Despite questioning the order. Pilot awarded for quick thinking, gunner court martialed for opening fire in a no-fire range.
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McNally posted:Pilot awarded for quick thinking, gunner court martialed for opening fire in a no-fire range.
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Last i checked to fly anything in the us military you have to be an officer. Edit: warrant officer for army helicopters. Do you need a degree to be a warrant? Stravag fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Oct 13, 2019 |
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Warrant officers also fly helicopters, but technically CWO-2 and above hold commissions. N/A in the USAF, they don't have WOs at all.
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Remulak posted:Helicopter pilots are officers now? Exceptions were made during Vietnam for non-commisioned (and warrant officer) helo pilots, IIRC. Too many helis, not enough people. I've heard of fixed wing pilots being retrained to fly the things. Imagine learning to use the C-141 and then getting shuttled off to fly the Huey before having the chance. Wah-wah.
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Remulak posted:Helicopter pilots are officers now? For all intents and purposes, warrant officers are officers. Except paid less.
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NightGyr posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/russia-bombing-syrian-hospitals.html So should I even ask why they would do this
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I'm going to guess they consider anyone who isn't an ally or in allied territory to be fair game.
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What's the point of fighting by the rules if you're backing up Bashar al-Torture Prisons, I guess.
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Nebakenezzer posted:So should I even ask why they would do this To make civilians flee the country.
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Turkish backed SFA executed a Kurdish politician and everyone with her. https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/13/middleeast/syria-turkey-kurdish-politician-intl/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F I wouldn’t watch the video, it shows a handcuffed woman on the ground getting shot.
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McNally posted:For all intents and purposes, warrant officers are officers. lol, except for the ‘getting off Scott-free’ part.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RojavaNetwork/status/1183521682646093830?p=v Unconfirmed stories rolling in that Kurdish forces were hit by a barrel bomb from [s]syrian/s] unknown aircraft. Looks like proxy war's back on the menu, boys. Guest2553 fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Oct 14, 2019 |
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brains posted:this is fantastic training and i wish like hell i was able to get smokey sams* for my guys. unfortunately if you're asking army range control civilians (or the ASP) for loving anything outside of the usual qualification fire they're used to, they act like you're asking for their firstborn child. glad to see the marines having better luck. Trying to out maneuver a SAM with a tilt or rotary wing aircraft is pointless. Either the countermeasures work or they don't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkld7L_pvz4
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Arglebargle III posted:To make civilians flee the country. This is the answer. Assad was running a sectarian civil war against ~70% of his country, only pulled back from the brink of losing by the Iranian and Russian interventions. Killing millions is actually pretty hard. Killing hundreds of thousands to make those millions flee to escape the hell you created is much, much easier.
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SimonCat posted:Trying to out maneuver a SAM with a tilt or rotary wing aircraft is pointless. Either the countermeasures work or they don't. OTOH, rapidly maneuvering could mess up MANPADS operator number 2 or the guys with MGs waiting to light you up if the MANPADS misses.
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SimonCat posted:Trying to out maneuver a SAM with a tilt or rotary wing aircraft is pointless. Either the countermeasures work or they don't. this is one of those arguments where you'll just have to accept that maybe there is a reason you see military aircraft practicing these maneuvers, and that maybe that reason is extremely classified. if you disagree, that's ok too.
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Warbadger posted:This is the answer. Assad was running a sectarian civil war against ~70% of his country, only pulled back from the brink of losing by the Iranian and Russian interventions. Killing millions is actually pretty hard. Killing hundreds of thousands to make those millions flee to escape the hell you created is much, much easier. Also, erdogan needs there to be "millions of refugees" so if he wants to he can unleash them on Europe, which he's already threatening to do.
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