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dpf
Sep 17, 2011

once a tv lisence guy came to my door and asked to come look around inside and I was like no. never heard anything again the end

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Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

that's basically all they're allowed to do

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


i just get letters saying OUR ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WILL BE ROUND ON TUESDAY!!! WATCH YOUR ASSS

then they don't come. they send these letters like every month

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

GABA ghoul posted:

All photographic images in the UK are owned by the queen so if you want to take a look you need a license

lmfao thats loving dumb

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
Meanwhile in Germany:

First person ever jailed over public broadcaster fee

Sieglinde Baumert began a six-month prison sentence in February after refusing to co-operate with the authorities trying to force her to pay the public broadcaster fee.

https://www.thelocal.de/20160404/first-person-ever-jailed-for-public-broadcaster-fee

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


just tax people, goddamn

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Doc Hawkins posted:

just tax people, goddamn

She would have gotten imprisoned if she did that same thing with taxes as well, though.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

oliwan posted:

Meanwhile in Germany:

First person ever jailed over public broadcaster fee

Sieglinde Baumert began a six-month prison sentence in February after refusing to co-operate with the authorities trying to force her to pay the public broadcaster fee.

https://www.thelocal.de/20160404/first-person-ever-jailed-for-public-broadcaster-fee

This hero is sill doing his thing however:

""Unsere Stellungnahme im Verfahren um Barzahlung des Rundfunkbeitrags beim Europäischen Gerichtshof - norberthaering.de" posted:

Am 27. März hat das Bundesverwaltungsgericht in meinem Verfahren gegen den Hessischen Rundfunk entschieden, zunächst dem Europäischen Gerichtshof (EuGH) Fragen zur Entscheidung vorzulegen. Der EuGH soll entscheiden, ob die deutschen Paragraphen zum gesetzlichen Zahlungsmittel inhaltlich identisch mit den europäischen sind, und wenn nicht, was gelten soll. Mein Anwalt Carlos A. Gebauer hat nun die folgende Stellungnahme in Luxemburg vorgelegt.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Doc Hawkins posted:

just tax people, goddamn

It is a tax in all but name already. It's just raised separately and by the broadcasters themselves to protect their independence from the state. If some fart sniffers in the government were to decide on their funding they could use that as pressure and influence the programming.

The downside is that we get to listen a lot to libertarian howling about how taxation is theft.(I mean, they are probably also howling about schools, homeless shelters and traffic lights that they don't use but the media doesn't report on that poo poo unlike with the public broadcasting fee.)

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

GABA ghoul posted:

It is a tax in all but name already. It's just raised separately and by the broadcasters themselves to protect their independence from the state. If some fart sniffers in the government were to decide on their funding they could use that as pressure and influence the programming.

The downside is that we get to listen a lot to libertarian howling about how taxation is theft.(I mean, they are probably also howling about schools, homeless shelters and traffic lights that they don't use but the media doesn't report on that poo poo unlike with the public broadcasting fee.)

The government does decide on their funding, by setting the license fee rate and allowing them to collect it at all. Cameron gave the culture brief to John Whittingdale, who wants to scrap the license fee and probably the BBC altogether, in order to spook the corporation into line, and they duly stacked their offices with former lobbyists, Murdoch hacks and other assorted scum to placate him.

Preston Waters
May 21, 2010

by VideoGames
the BBC World Service is like all the UK has going for it

it's certainly the thing I care about most since NPR is a joke

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


oliwan posted:

Meanwhile in Germany:

First person ever jailed over public broadcaster fee

Sieglinde Baumert began a six-month prison sentence in February after refusing to co-operate with the authorities trying to force her to pay the public broadcaster fee.

https://www.thelocal.de/20160404/first-person-ever-jailed-for-public-broadcaster-fee

Look I know you want your country to seem all tough, but:

BBC posted:

More than one in 10 criminal prosecutions in 2012 were for non-payment of the BBC licence fee.

A total of 181,880 people were summoned to appear at magistrates' courts in England for the offence last year.

...

Those who do not face a fine of up to £1,000. Anyone who refuses, or is unable, to pay the fine could face prison.

The number of people caught watching TV without a licence has remained steady since 2010, at about 400,000.

However, the number of prosecutions for evasion has risen from 164,444 in 2010 to 181,880 in 2012, Ministry of Justice figures show. With magistrates handling 1.48m cases in 2012, licence fee evasion accounts for 12% of their workload.

It's still very much junior league compared to Britain.

e: Oh and the BBC World Service is paid for separately from taxes and ads, and also has a separate charter about promoting "British values" and such. Ironically this sometimes makes for better reporting.

Private Speech has issued a correction as of 04:40 on Oct 14, 2019

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

that's basically all they're allowed to do

A colleague had someone take hi-res photos of the TV in his flat from somewhere outside, then they came back around with the photos and went "you have a TV, pay or we sue you". Austria, not Germany, but it's absolutely ridiculous -- much like the government apparently gives the loving church information about your income so they can tithe you accordingly.

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?
happy queens speech week

https://twitter.com/HouseofCommons/status/1183321479712247808

https://twitter.com/aliceolilly/status/1183627143382732800

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.

Private Speech posted:

Look I know you want your country to seem all tough, but:


It's still very much junior league compared to Britain.

e: Oh and the BBC World Service is paid for separately from taxes and ads, and also has a separate charter about promoting "British values" and such. Ironically this sometimes makes for better reporting.

Lmao, this is a very stockholm syndrome "No WE'VE got the most repressive government" post

Edit: To clarify I don't disagree, it's just depressing that this is the state of the world now.

Dravs has issued a correction as of 09:15 on Oct 14, 2019

RobattoJesus
Aug 13, 2002

the Tv license should be a progressive tax just so we can hear celebrities whine about having to pay £20000 just to watch their own poo poo.

dpf
Sep 17, 2011

bbc's radio is genuinely good. 6 music is good, Late Junction on radio 3 is absolutely boss if you're into weird experimental music. the world service has good reporting but does unfortunately still have certain imperialist hangups. Radio 4 has some top quality content (the Archers, anyone? omnibus 4ever)

also the shipping forecast. gently caress anyone who doesn't love the shipping forecast

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?
I never thought the day would come where I'd say Iggy Pop was my favourite DJ but, honestly, his show is just wall-to-wall awsome music.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Hentai Jihadist posted:

my porn pass joke go to has always been that itll have your career statistics like top searches and average time but thats a better'n

Pornhub already have all those stats

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
looks like we are headed for a brexit extension, or a brextension as I have taken to calling it.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




brexit shortly to become the longest running entertainment property in british media

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

Squizzle posted:

brexit shortly to become the longest running entertainment property in british media

it's kinda weird that I can't seem to think of some piece of media that dealt with brexit anxieties in any way, like even b movie action flicks now feature drone warfare but brexit doesn't get even a dumb remark?
all I can think of is that brexit netflix movie with cucumberbatch guy

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Honest Thief posted:

it's kinda weird that I can't seem to think of some piece of media that dealt with brexit anxieties in any way, like even b movie action flicks now feature drone warfare but brexit doesn't get even a dumb remark?
all I can think of is that brexit netflix movie with cucumberbatch guy

Telling your audience they are a bunch of rubes getting fleeced by the rich does not play well with focus groups.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Honest Thief posted:

it's kinda weird that I can't seem to think of some piece of media that dealt with brexit anxieties in any way, like even b movie action flicks now feature drone warfare but brexit doesn't get even a dumb remark?
all I can think of is that brexit netflix movie with cucumberbatch guy

i think youll find that the tv series “1990” depicts the inevitable consequences of allowing corbyn to act as caretaker pm for even a moment

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Still crossing my fingers for Erdogan greenlighting Valley of Wolves: Brexit.

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
make it a doctor who plot or heck black mirror one, are we seriously going to have a new james bond and not even an acknowledgement or have james stranded on standstead because his visa expired lol

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Brexit won't bring back your goddamn honey.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Honey, I shrunk the Brexit!

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes
No Deal, or no No Deal
That is the question.

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And, by opposing, Brexit?

Ayn Randi
Mar 12, 2009


Grimey Drawer
brois stonjohn

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
Neil Marshall's Brexit

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

looks like we are headed for a brexit extension, or a brextension as I have taken to calling it.

Brexistential Crisis

DeadButDelicious
Oct 11, 2012

Leave me to do my dark bidding on the internet!
The moment Corbyn ascends to the role of PM in any capacity I expect A Very British Coup to become prophetic.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

The day before Corbyn becomes interims PM all air quality gains in London of the last 30 years will be lost to paper smoke.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Brexit bent my bananas 😥

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

HiHo ChiRho posted:

Brexit bent my bananas 😥

No son, the EU bent your bananas. But brexit will straighten them out.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

black rod in the back with so much soul
attacks, wrangles MPs with a big black pole

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Honest Thief posted:

it's kinda weird that I can't seem to think of some piece of media that dealt with brexit anxieties in any way, like even b movie action flicks now feature drone warfare but brexit doesn't get even a dumb remark?
all I can think of is that brexit netflix movie with cucumberbatch guy

I feel like the 3 or so WW1 movies that have been produced are trying to return to a "simpler time" where Britain was ofc the strong good guy who saved Europe :pseudo:

I thought that crappy Britannia show really missed a trick by not making the whole show about uncivilised brits rebelling against fancy centralised Europeans, the ads played that angle.
Instead they did the whole British accents on the Romans thing which made it very confused and stupid just two lots of bri'ish peo'le having an argue bargie. I wouldn't be surprised if a sizeable chunk of brits thought the roman empire was British given how they always get British accents in media.

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006
https://twitter.com/Constitut_alia/status/1183698172620820480

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GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Dravs posted:

Lmao, this is a very stockholm syndrome "No WE'VE got the most repressive government" post

Edit: To clarify I don't disagree, it's just depressing that this is the state of the world now.

I came around on public broadcasting when I came in contact with Fox News. Nothing is free in life. If you want your boomers to get their news from professional independent journalists instead of some Koch brothers carny freakshow of snakeoil salesmen, you gotta pay for that.

So, I pay my public broadcasting taxes and in return I go to bed at night in the knowledge that I will never have to talk to my parents about the Merkel body count or how climate change is a hoax. Fair deal.

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