Calico Heart posted:

anyone have any more info on this?

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Making a coop to fund and develop a printer that lays down blotter sheets of acid and other novel psychedelics.

Accretionist posted:

I'd pitch Universal Public Housing, too.

But don't do it like Americans.

Do it like Austrians.

Article: Vienna’s Affordable Housing Paradise
From: Huffington Post
Date: 2018 JUL 19

Sedisp posted:

upper middle class

Rarity posted:

luxury housing

grah posted:

That said I do think young people who get lucrative (often, tech related) jobs in cities suffering from gentrification ought to consider whether they should willingly pay 3x the median rent in a neighborhood. Yes it's the landlords' greed that is driving the system but I don't think anger against the most visible part of the gentrification cycle--the newer, wealthier, almost always whiter residents--is unexpected or even entirely unjustified. And the argument that they are just looking for cheap rent often falls apart when they are renting newly constructed/renovated 'luxury apartments' which is often the case.

There are also cultural and behavioral issues that exacerbate the problem. The new residents often don't integrate into the neighborhood very well if at all, and then try to use the police to address the problems they encounter--complaints about noise, loitering, illegal barbecues, all kinds of really minor stuff that is not worth bringing more police into vulnerable communities.

So like yeah gentrification is a systemic problem driven by landlords and property speculators trying to siphon as much money as possible out of people's need to live in a home. But there is an extent to which young professionals who are, relative to their new neighbors, wealthy and privileged, enable that system as well.

Accretionist posted:

I'd pitch Universal Public Housing, too.

But don't do it like Americans.

Do it like Austrians.

Article: Vienna’s Affordable Housing Paradise
From: Huffington Post
Date: 2018 JUL 19

PUBLIC HOUSING, WOHNPARK ALTERLAA, VIENNA, AUSTRIA:

grah posted:

That said I do think young people who get lucrative (often, tech related) jobs in cities suffering from gentrification ought to consider whether they should willingly pay 3x the median rent in a neighborhood. Yes it's the landlords' greed that is driving the system but I don't think anger against the most visible part of the gentrification cycle--the newer, wealthier, almost always whiter residents--is unexpected or even entirely unjustified. And the argument that they are just looking for cheap rent often falls apart when they are renting newly constructed/renovated 'luxury apartments' which is often the case.

There are also cultural and behavioral issues that exacerbate the problem. The new residents often don't integrate into the neighborhood very well if at all, and then try to use the police to address the problems they encounter--complaints about noise, loitering, illegal barbecues, all kinds of really minor stuff that is not worth bringing more police into vulnerable communities.

So like yeah gentrification is a systemic problem driven by landlords and property speculators trying to siphon as much money as possible out of people's need to live in a home. But there is an extent to which young professionals who are, relative to their new neighbors, wealthy and privileged, enable that system as well.

Shipon posted:

where the gently caress are those young professional supposed to live if they don't want to "enable that system"? it's not like they necessarily want to pay more either, it's that no one is willing to build anything other than "luxury apartments" because limits on construction (especially in places like LA that mandate parking spaces for each apartment) make it only profitable to build to that market

or should they just live in exurbs and commute an hour by car to avoid "gentrifying" anything

as for the "new residents don't integrate into the neighborhood", what is "integrating into the neighborhood" to you? is it being the same color, religion, income level? the whole "they don't fit the neighborhood character" is just the woke version of every suburb that had racial-based covenants

grah posted:

It's meeting and knowing your neighbors. It's not calling the cops on sidewalk barbecues or other social gatherings in spaces not designated for it. I've lived my whole life in poor neighborhoods in the Bronx and this isn't some imagined phenomenon. There is real tension between new, monied residents and long term poorer residents and often the new residents feel entitled to make the neighborhood conform to their expectations, and use the police to force the issue.

T-man posted:

Universal Basic Drugs, you get a trash bag full of weed each month or you can trade it in for a pound of heroin or a bushel of cocaine.

Inceltown posted:

Doctor Jeep posted:

this could be the plot of a curb episode, except larry wouldn't get persuaded against it

bike tory posted:

Forced labour for property investors still wouldn't fix gentrification, they just accelerate it. Unless you mean literally everyone who owns property should be executed or sent to the gulag?

bike tory posted:

Forced labour for property investors still wouldn't fix gentrification, they just accelerate it. Unless you mean literally everyone who owns property should be executed or sent to the gulag?

grah posted:

I mean I'd prefer the total abrogation of private property and universal housing but I'd also accept the former.

bike tory posted:

Forced labour for property investors still wouldn't fix gentrification, they just accelerate it. Unless you mean literally everyone who owns property should be executed or sent to the gulag?

Gentrification is just a feature of a free market and inequality. Unless there's something to stop them or support people to stay where they are, wealthier people will end up owning the more desirable or better located housing.

a fatguy baldspot posted:

that’s what tragedy of the commons refers too. it’s sad (tragedy) that we have to kill or jail all these people. but it must be done for humanity to survive. we have to make hard decisions, tighten our belts, and kill our landlords. like I’m sad for them an their families but what choice do we have. they’ve left us no choice. of course if we could save our planet and species without doing it we woold. that’s why they call it the tragedy of the commons.

Taintrunner posted:

you’ve got it backwards. if left alone, the wealthy would use their capital to fund fascist violence in order to terrorize and destabilize any sort of socialist state, regardless of violent uprising or not. it would be a tragedy to not remove them from the equation via revolutionary violence, and be little more than simply signing a death warrant for the people we’d claim to be standing up for. don’t waste your empathy or remorse for people that would throw you to the fascists in a heartbeat.

to enter into a socialist state would mean entering a constant struggle against wealthy interests both foreign and domestic who see themselves entitled to profit off the backs of the common people at any cost. just look at the American government’s recent attempts to “make their economy scream,” and overthrow the government in Venezuela - it’s all so American oil companies can raid their oil reserves for profit.

StarMinstrel posted:

capitalism thread! I feel this is the right place to ask: bought myself a copy of Das Kapital, volume one. The preface though mentions something about volume two and three. I was under the impression that Marx only wrote volume one before dying?

Am I missing something? are the two other volumes something continued by Engels or... ?

The preface was saying how volume one is more of a critic of capitalism while the other volumes are about social messaging and proper solutions. is that it?

quote:

Capital, Volume II, subtitled The Process of Circulation of Capital, was prepared by Engels from notes left by Marx and published in 1885

quote:

Capital, Volume III, subtitled The Process of Capitalist Production as a Whole, was prepared by Engels from notes left by Marx and published in 1894.

bag em and tag em posted:

Nice try but I think you'll find that number can only go up forever in a 100% sustainable trajectory of pure profit.

The Bloop posted:

demand for marginally useful apps is entirely inelastic, so this checks out

quote:

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Rafique's cry for help alerted some passers-by and they rescued him from the lion, the police said. A case under section 324 of the Pakistan Penal Code has been lodged against Raza.