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It is probably cheaper then buying since you can completely expense the rental fees and pass the cost through to your cost plus clients.
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What I really want in a Porsche, is one that 500 other people have farted into, and possibly even 24 hours before you sit in it! YAY!
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Oct 9, 2019 02:41
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can it just be for a month so I can "hoon" a 911s every single day for $3,100?
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Oct 9, 2019 03:05
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Blue On Blue posted:https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/porsches-us3100-a-month-subscription-service-is-coming-to-canada https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYEzhmJgQdc
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Keyser_Soze posted:can it just be for a month so I can "hoon" a 911s every single day for $3,100? Yeah it says you can and it’s cheaper than renting one on Turo. Not sure if you would get charged the $600 “activation fee” just once or every single time you want to re-up for a month. It’s not offered in my area or I would almost consider it. I suppose I could pick up/drop off in a nearby service area. Maybe when I get my bonus in April 
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Oct 9, 2019 03:55
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If I could afford the $2100 a month tier, I could see it. You could swap the Cayman and Boxter seasonally (here in Michigan, I am a touch old for convertibles in the winter), and swap out any of the others whenever you had something going on where a 2-seater wasn't practical. If swapping is easy enough, always having the situationally appropriate Porsche is a nice gimmick.
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Oct 9, 2019 14:57
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Zorak of Michigan posted:If I could afford the $2100 a month tier, I could see it. You could swap the Cayman and Boxter seasonally (here in Michigan, I am a touch old for convertibles in the winter), and swap out any of the others whenever you had something going on where a 2-seater wasn't practical. If swapping is easy enough, always having the situationally appropriate Porsche is a nice gimmick. The kicker is for about that you could lease both cars
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It would be cool to try it for a month if I had a bunch of cash to blow, if there wasn’t any long term commitment, and you could track them (im guessing a huge no on that one), but compared to leasing 1 car its a joke, just way too expensive. Just did the math, and a 42 month lease of a cayman AND macan (base on both) including down payments is $1700/month - so with insurance factored in it would be pretty close to $2100. I guess if you were ballin’ hard it might make sense, but again, why would you pay so much to have all those old man farts in your town bicycle porsche?
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Oct 9, 2019 21:53
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As difficult as it is to even find a cayman to buy with the options i’d prefer, i’m expecting the rental pool to be 10 cars with every logo option ticked and power steering plus, and not a single one with sport chrono.
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Oct 9, 2019 23:10
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krysmopompas posted:As difficult as it is to even find a cayman to buy with the options i’d prefer, i’m expecting the rental pool to be 10 cars with every logo option ticked and power steering plus, and not a single one with sport chrono. And probably none in manuel 
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Oct 10, 2019 00:34
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Blue On Blue posted:And probably none in manuel
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Oct 10, 2019 01:33
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krysmopompas posted:There’s no reason for 2nd to top out over 70mph in any roadgoing car ever. Refer to the thread title. (you're totally correct...it's not even fun)
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Motronic posted:Refer to the thread title. It always bugged me that the analog speedometer was literally worthless for street driving because 0-70 is less than a third of the total and bit over an inch in length
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thechalkoutline posted:It always bugged me that the analog speedometer was literally worthless for street driving because 0-70 is less than a third of the total and bit over an inch in length I really love my buddy's base model first gen boxter and my 85.5 944. You can drive them hard and not be at felony speeds/into a tree on your regular commute. I totally get the high HP thing, it's intoxicating. But on a day to day basis the 152 (surely less now) out of the 944 is just plain fun.
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Since I'm out of school with a decent job, the planet is dying and I'm coming up on a midlife crisis...I think the time is about right to be investigating my dream car. I've always wanted a mid 80s 911 (non cabriolet), ideally a 1985 (birth year). I see these come up on bring a trailer quite a bit for $20-30k. What is the cost of ownership of something like that?
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Oct 12, 2019 19:57
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Target Practice posted:What is the cost of ownership of something like that? Low, if you have a good mechanic that can do basic engine maintenance (see: valve adjustments). Lots of old 911s running around with 300k+ miles.
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Target Practice posted:Since I'm out of school with a decent job, the planet is dying and I'm coming up on a midlife crisis...I think the time is about right to be investigating my dream car. Please do this and make a thread 
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They are relatively reliable, but new parts, especially OEM parts that aren't available from a jobber (even if you wanted to) can be shockingly expensive if your history is only from standard run of the mill manufacturers.
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slidebite posted:They are relatively reliable, but new parts, especially OEM parts that aren't available from a jobber (even if you wanted to) can be shockingly expensive if your history is only from standard run of the mill manufacturers. This is a very good point. I know we're talking air cooled here, but just as an example, a good quality water pump for my 944 was $200. You can get the same thing for a domestic pickup for more like $30. A fuel tank level sender is $400, where the domestic pickup one would be like $45. Both of those parts will have to be ordered for the Porsche but would be sitting at your local parts store for the domestic. Seals/weather stripping for things like doors and windows can be a huge pain in the rear end to find and quite expensive, and you're talking about an 80s car so you probably will be needing things like that. You absolutely want to spend the money on a thorough pre purchase inspection for anything you're seriously considering buying.
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So I went back to the dealer and test drove the car I had my eye on 2018 718 Cayman S , 6 speed Pretty well loaded with sport exhaust, pasm suspension stuff, sport plus seats and a bunch of other stuff Overall it drives like a go cart. Fast enough to get you into trouble as I was able to get up to 100km/h between stop signs in 2nd gear My only concern is getting stuck into a 2 seater and once over the honeymoon of driving fast and loud it losing its charm
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Blue On Blue posted:over the honeymoon of driving fast and loud it losing its charm
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Ether Frenzy posted:How would that be possible though? I guess as I get older I realize practicality comes in handy too , currently I leave my golf clubs in the trunk the whole summer With the cayman I'd have to plan to take them with, for instance
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Blue On Blue posted:I guess as I get older I realize practicality comes in handy too , currently I leave my golf clubs in the trunk the whole summer Visit the BMW thread and we'll talk you into an M3!
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Blue On Blue posted:I guess as I get older I realize practicality comes in handy too , currently I leave my golf clubs in the trunk the whole summer A Cayman isn't a good "only car" for most people. Is that what you're trying to make it into, or will you keep the truck?
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Blue On Blue posted:I guess as I get older I realize practicality comes in handy too , currently I leave my golf clubs in the trunk the whole summer fknlo posted:Visit the BMW thread and we'll talk you into an M3! Since carrying around unnecessary ballast (golf bats, speaker boxes, etc) in a sports car is wrong thinking you could just sell the sticks now and use the money for track time in the new Cayman. Or buy an M3 like our recently M3-buying friend here recommends...
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Motronic posted:A Cayman isn't a good "only car" for most people. Is that what you're trying to make it into, or will you keep the truck? I could pull it off as a 2nd car, it's just complicated since i live in a 3olives type building, so I only have 1 parking spot. I could make it work though with a 'regular' vehicle for stuff that needs a trunk. Ether Frenzy posted:Since carrying around unnecessary ballast (golf bats, speaker boxes, etc) in a sports car is wrong thinking you could just sell the sticks now and use the money for track time in the new Cayman. I thought the whole idea of a sports car was so you could show off when you pull up to go golfing with the buddies I do like the idea of track time though, it was def. in my plans once I decide on what to get!
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Blue On Blue posted:I thought the whole idea of a sports car was so you could show off when you pull up to go golfing with the buddies Porsche literally uses clubs as a design metric. Just not for that car. Blue On Blue posted:I do like the idea of track time though, it was def. in my plans once I decide on what to get! That is a much less boring person idea.
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Target Practice posted:Since I'm out of school with a decent job, the planet is dying and I'm coming up on a midlife crisis...I think the time is about right to be investigating my dream car. I have an '82 that I've owned since 2013 and I've spent over $25k in maintenance, rebuilds and improvements. I've refreshed the entire suspension, which is now beautiful, and done a top end rebuild and transmission refresh. I could have spent tons less money on it but I've spent a lot of time on track and I couldn't settle for it being less than awesome. I love it to death and it was super worth it.
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Stupid idea to have a 996 Targa as an only car? The Targa at least has the glass hatch back. I think I'd need to get a Willwood system for a bike rack, which would add $1000-$1500 IIRC. I don't haul much cargo otherwise. The one I noticed has already had IMS/RMS/clutch done at 66k miles; currently at 71k. Still getting ownership history. I'll hit Rennlist with more questions, but does anyone else here remember major issues besides air/oil separator being hard to get to? The main thing I'm concerned about is rain/snow performance; I'm used to AWD on great tires in those conditions and don't have much experience with RWD in the same. I imagine RR is more planted than FR, but I don't have room for snow tires. It snows 1-2 weeks/year where I live, but there's lots of heavy rain. Do you always need to give the M96 a workout for the health of the IMS (even after a kit)? There would be days where the car wouldn't see above 35 mph on streets.
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Where do you live? Link for the one you are looking at? Can give more of an effortpost later.
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Pacific Northwest https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/d/vancouver-porsche-911/6995340589.html Price listed is obviously too much, but 25k might be reasonable considering the work that's been done and considering that it's a Targa. Seller said price was negotiable.
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Blue On Blue posted:I could pull it off as a 2nd car, it's just complicated since i live in a 3olives type building, so I only have 1 parking spot. I could make it work though with a 'regular' vehicle for stuff that needs a trunk. That's what the 911s are for, no one shows off with the cheapest Porsche.
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blk posted:Pacific Northwest I think it looks pretty good. The wet/snow performance is going to be hugely dependent on what you have for tires. They're certainly not suicide machines so don't be overly concerned about that. I do know of some people actually using 911 as a true winter car, which I'm sure you could where you live since I've seen them in Alberta, but ground clearance becomes an issue with packed snow... and that's probably about the only time I'd probably like an AWD over a RWD. Regarding the IMS/Clutch. It is good that it's done and 2004 is going to be one of the least desirable single row bearings when OEM equipped. Can he tell you what bearing they put into it? Either way anything short of "The Solution" is going to be YMMV. Trouble spots to look out for, AOS as you noted is a wear part, as is the coolant expansion tank and water pump. Plastics, coolant and vacuum especially, are getting brittle just from age. The spoiler shield (accordion type thing) that comes up when the spoiler is deployed commonly get tears from age, so check that out, along with the 3rd brake light bulbs (both of them, one is built into the spoiler). Try and do a cold start, preferably by a few days, and see what you get for sounds. Some rattling is normal but it should go away almost instantly... as in, less than 2 seconds. If its any longer, cam chain tensioners are another common replacement item and have been updated several times from Porsche. Top right one is a bit of a bugger, under the AC compressor. Go bottom side and look for oil leaks. I know they said they did RMS (the biggest culprit) but there are more seals. Never a bad idea to dissect an oil filter either or a leakdown test, but not too sure how far down the rabbit hole you want to go. Oh, might be obvious, but make sure that Targa works well. From what I understand, parts for them are a little hard to track down. I'm a fan of inspections and documentation of course, but I also look at it that this is a $25K car, not a $100K collectors item. If you have some decent mechanical ability don't necessarily be scared shitless. They're not terrible cars to work on, scariest thing is the price of some parts if required. If it looks good and you get it for a good price, go for it. They are built quite solidly. Don't know if I'd use it as an exclusive DD though. Take a photo of the VIN sticker underneath the frunk and look at all the option codes. I think I see Xenons and headlight washers. Interior looks like it doesn't have a ton of add-ons, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. slidebite fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Echoing this. 996s are still fairly basic cars to work on with an incredible aftermarket fueled by an active and relatively wealthy community so it's actually easier to do lazy/basic DIY stuff on them than a lot of other cars. I've even found the specialists that I'd expect to be overpriced, tend to be at least as affordable as a standard good independents. *doesn't necessarily apply to anything aircooled
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The heater core replacement is so easy that I actually enjoyed doing it.
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One thing that always raises my eyebrows about 911s is how early I see clutches replaced. What's the story there? Should I anticipate another clutch at 120k?
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I don't know how premature a replacement is once you start pushing 80K miles. That said, I think it's in large part people who don't know how to drive. I'm at 75K miles myself on my 1999 and clutch is still very strong and no sign of any issues. I have partial records and no info RE a clutch replacement, and the owner I bought it off of said it was original.
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The 996 also has a spring assist on the clutch that is really awkward and I feel, at least, contributes more to wear. Best to pop that sucker off, it's not so heavy a clutch that most people need the assist.
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2009 911 s with 100k, I know old aircooled porsches can run forever, surely the completely different new designs will too, right? For real though, how terrible an idea is a 2009 911S with 100k on the clock? 09s dont have ims, dont have bore scoring, right? Is it a pipe dream to imagine wear and tear items will get me to 200k? Asking price is $35k, so the thought of the revised 997.2 for 997.1 money is making me think stupid thoughts.
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I don’t think there’s anything common that is bigger than hpfp failure. I’m looking at a base model 997.2 tomorrow with 70k for just a couple thousand more, but I’d jump on that higher mileage s if it had the right option combo. krysmopompas fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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