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Edward Mass posted:I think last series would've sat better with me if the finale wasn't so blah. Maybe it's what I've been conditioned by RTD & Moffat, but BoRAK was a big ol' pile of un-fun dumb. Resolution is a way better... well, resolution... to the series, and comes close enough to the season proper that I just think of it as the real finale. I feel the same way about Last Christmas too, which is a fantastic capstone to Season 8.
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Resolution isn’t on the box set, so I don’t count it as part of season 37. 
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Oct 15, 2019 00:52
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LividLiquid posted:I miss those big moments. Thirteen seems really down-to-earth and human by comparrison and all her stories are self-contained. I kinda like the contast. After 12, a more human approach feels the right way to go - she's still somewhat oblivious and alien, but it fits. Same for the general lack of an story arc, it's what I personally enjoy, just hopping in and out of a story. Maybe that wasn't such a good idea for 13's first series - the second maybe - because they attempt to loosely thread some of the stories together with the tooth guy and weapon planet, and it just falls flat on its face come the finale because it's literally a "Who are you? Oh wait yeah...really, you again" moment." The structure and plotting are the big story killers of the last series IMO - it comes so close to having a pretty okay story, and then veers off at the last minute, or you're left hanging for a resolution that never comes, but feels like it should - i.e the stuff with Ryan's dad, antagonists that don't go anywhere. Then there's the fact that Yaz has bugger all to do and gets barely any development. And the new tone does make some of the bad jokes stick out more - that random bit in Resolution where the internet goes down and the family goes "Oh no. Guess we'll have to socalise." v  vStill digging the general direction, though  [e]: Also finally listened to Ravenous 4 - thank god that's over - the series started out pretty neat but dragged its way to the finale. First story is the boxset standard stand-alone with nothing to do with the others (fine, if a bit bog standard), while the other three interlink. Planet of Dust has the Beevers Master trying to find a tomb of artron energy to survive, because at this point he's hosed and actually dying, with even his eternal pain numbing. Day of the Master is the final two part, and another long-awaited crossover of the various Master incarnations, though they only really come together at the end - on form as always. And everything is tied together, even that goddamed magic man I hated in the Ravenous 3 - still dislike that, even knowing now where they were going with it and there is a nice little coda of the Masters together ensuring Beever's new regeneration cycle, and a little nod to the McQueen Master - who sadly doesn't appear. It's Missy going, "Hello, you." as Beevers regenerates  .Short version; it's one of the better Ravenous boxsets. I hope they change up the companions soon - Liv and Helen are okay, but honestly it needs a new dynamic at this point. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Oct 15, 2019 |
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Oct 15, 2019 01:03
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Edward Mass posted:Resolution isn’t on the box set, so I don’t count it as part of season 37. They frequently gently caress up how they add the specials, putting them into the clearly wrong boxsets, and it makes me mad 
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Oct 15, 2019 03:41
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Clearly, the answer is to wait until they put the Jodie Whittaker Years Blu-Ray box set when her era is over. They put out ones for Tennant, Smith, and Capaldi, and you don't have to worry about dumb-rear end singles taking up space.
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Jerusalem posted:They frequently gently caress up how they add the specials, putting them into the clearly wrong boxsets, and it makes me mad
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Jerusalem posted:They frequently gently caress up how they add the specials, putting them into the clearly wrong boxsets, and it makes me mad i didn't mind when you'd wind up with them at the front of the next series' boxset, so like The Christmas Invasion in series 2 and so on. better than now where they just don't bother putting them in at all
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Oct 15, 2019 08:26
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LividLiquid posted:My first to round I missed all of Smith's Christmas specials and was so confused. On the plus side you missed The Doctor, The Widow and The Wardrobe. But you also missed out on A Christmas Carol which is superb.
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Oct 15, 2019 08:45
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I honestly despise A Christmas Carol. I think twisting some one's personal history to suit your selfish needs and force them to change is a lovely thing to do, especially when it's against their own wishes or wants. The whole reason a Christmas Carol works is because Scrooge is having to confront his own past himself. He isn't being made to change, he's being made to realize that there is more to the world than his own narrow view. There's goodness in him from the start, it just had to be kindled and nurtured. What the Doctor does is reprehensible and a low point for the character in my eyes. I hate the entire contrived episode, the way it uses time travel, the way the Doctor acts and the unearned ending. I will never understand why so many people are fine with that episode, but I won't rain on their parade either. I just cannot stand it.
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Oct 15, 2019 08:49
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Burkion posted:What the Doctor does is reprehensible and a low point for the character in my eyes. Same-ish. I'm not super keen on The Girl Who Waited for similarish reasons
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Oct 15, 2019 09:03
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Pesky Splinter posted:
Is this in any way connected to the early main range audio Dust Breeding? Because I liked that one.
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Jerusalem posted:On the plus side you missed The Doctor, The Widow and The Wardrobe. But you also missed out on A Christmas Carol which is superb.
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Oct 15, 2019 09:34
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Fil5000 posted:Is this in any way connected to the early main range audio Dust Breeding? Because I liked that one. Aside from Dust in the titles and bookending the begining and end of the Beever's Master - none. It's okay, but it's primary function is to set up the events of Day of the Master. Which I enjoyed. Also, yeah, really don't like the Christmas specials for the most part - always been a bit of a humbug, and always found the Moffat ones mawkish and kind of unwatchable.
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Oct 15, 2019 11:25
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Re Christmas Carol: it's worth bearing mind that Kazran basically owns the planet he lives on, and once they realised the only way to save the day was to release Abigail the really moral course of action would have been for the Doctor to kill Kazran, then release Abigail, then release everyone else in the ice, then falsify Kazran's will so all his money was redistributed to the people. So if I was Kazran I'd be thanking my lucky stars that I only got my timeline messed with a bit
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Oct 15, 2019 18:21
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2house2fly posted:Re Christmas Carol: it's worth bearing mind that Kazran basically owns the planet he lives on, and once they realised the only way to save the day was to release Abigail the really moral course of action would have been for the Doctor to kill Kazran, then release Abigail, then release everyone else in the ice, then falsify Kazran's will so all his money was redistributed to the people. So if I was Kazran I'd be thanking my lucky stars that I only got my timeline messed with a bit Yeah that justifies the violation of self and identity and the complete ruination of ones own personal history Also in all that time the Doctor spent dicking around with Monroe, he could have made a teeny tiny stop over at *ANY* hospital in the entire universe at any point in time to get Abigail to NOT die to NOT teach an old man about not being an rear end in a top hat. Shame there wasn't any time for that I guess, nope let's just let her die to prove a point about something something hey I'm going to just completely up-end your entire sense of continuity and reality, have fun with that.
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Oct 15, 2019 18:32
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Oct 15, 2019 20:00
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I didn't hate the Doctor Mysterio Christmas Special there I said it.
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Oct 15, 2019 20:29
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docbeard posted:I didn't hate the Doctor Mysterio Christmas Special there I said it. You might be the only one.
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Oct 15, 2019 20:39
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I think Doctor Mysterio's just kind of one of those "eh okay, it was a Doctor Who story" kind of deals. There's that appalling moment at the start where the Doctor doesn't save a dude which I think makes it feel a lot worse than it would otherwise as a story, but I can't say I hate it.
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Oct 15, 2019 20:42
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:There's that appalling moment at the start where the Doctor doesn't save a dude which I think makes it feel a lot worse than it would otherwise as a story, but I can't say I hate it. Yeah, that bit completely ruins the whole thing for me. That’s not in the Doctor’s character at all.
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Oct 15, 2019 20:45
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I have yet to enjoy a single DW Xmas special 
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Oct 15, 2019 21:03
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I have yet to enjoy a single DW Xmas special the next doctor is the only half decent one emphasis on the “half”. the giant cyberman nonsense really drags the episode down.
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Oct 15, 2019 21:30
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Christmas specials are an odd one, since it's basically the only time the rest of my family watch Doctor Who. I tend to judge them based on how embarrassed I am to have to watch it with non-fans. By that metric, Christmas Carol probably gets the best pass. I also enjoyed Doctor Mysterio purely because my nephew was old enough to watch it properly and loves superheroes, so he was really into it. Last Christmas was pretty good as a concept, but I'd have preferred it as just a regular episode instead of being gummed up with the Christmas theming. I also remember it being way too complicated for how overfed and half-cut I was by that point on Christmas day.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I think Doctor Mysterio's just kind of one of those "eh okay, it was a Doctor Who story" kind of deals. There's that appalling moment at the start where the Doctor doesn't save a dude which I think makes it feel a lot worse than it would otherwise as a story, but I can't say I hate it. But he also has that bit where he just explains how he's gonna clown the baddies, so meh.
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Oct 15, 2019 23:56
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I like Husbands of River Song, although some of the early scenes are particularly grating.
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docbeard posted:I didn't hate the Doctor Mysterio Christmas Special there I said it. I went from 'it was okay' to 'actually that was pretty good' when I found out that they spent the entire special using cinematography and effects techniques from Christopher Reeve's Superman and Adam West's Batman. Because they didn't know how to do superhero stuff on their budget or timeframe (I guess they couldn't just learn from Supergirl), but they were using that stuff as inspiration anyway, so why not do it how they did? It worked back then!
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I think Doctor Mysterio's just kind of one of those "eh okay, it was a Doctor Who story" kind of deals. There's that appalling moment at the start where the Doctor doesn't save a dude which I think makes it feel a lot worse than it would otherwise as a story, but I can't say I hate it.
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Oct 16, 2019 02:21
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I love Last Christmas, and the final shot of the excited Doctor and Clara rushing down to the TARDIS to go on more adventures was a perfect ending for a Christmas special 
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docbeard posted:Twelve offered to do it to Bill too until she was all "yeah, gently caress that," but that (particularly in conjunction with the way Twelve and Clara's story ended) felt like something a lot more specific and deliberate than "Moffat loves erasing peoples' memories". Doctor Dances had its happy ending be based around the little boy "remembering" who his mummy was. The entire concept of the cracks involved people forgetting about their loved ones after they were erased, with the ending to the season based on Amy's memories. Beast Below as mentioned. The Silence were all about forgetting things. TinTower posted:I saw this so now you all have to too. I can totally see Eleven excitedly telling that last one to Amy as she shakes her head at him.
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Oct 16, 2019 03:26
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"A man is the sum of their memories"
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Jerusalem posted:I love Last Christmas, and the final shot of the excited Doctor and Clara rushing down to the TARDIS to go on more adventures was a perfect ending for a Christmas special
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Senor Tron posted:I can totally see Eleven excitedly telling that last one to Amy as she shakes her head at him. Couldn't resist: 
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Oct 16, 2019 03:45
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do you want me to get the memory worm
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Oct 16, 2019 03:48
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No, not the memory worm.
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https://youtu.be/UeA8L1y6fQM
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Oct 16, 2019 05:11
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Is that India Fisher doing the narration? 
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Oct 16, 2019 05:24
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Jerusalem posted:Is that India Fisher doing the narration? It is!
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Any US residents get their Pertwee S10 Blu Ray set? I got mine, but it didn't have the cardboard slip sleeve that the previous 3 had, and am wondering if they're all like that.
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Jerusalem posted:They frequently gently caress up how they add the specials, putting them into the clearly wrong boxsets, and it makes me mad They can't even put Doctor Who up on Amazon without it being weird and obtuse as hell. 15 different TV promos counting as their own season and episode, christmas specials being divided into their own confusing pages forcing you to jump back and forth between season pages and specials for one year.
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Khanstant posted:They can't even put Doctor Who up on Amazon without it being weird and obtuse as hell. 15 different TV promos counting as their own season and episode, christmas specials being divided into their own confusing pages forcing you to jump back and forth between season pages and specials for one year. To be fair, Amazon's entire user interface loving sucks.
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