Disco Elysium - What kind of cop are you? - OFFICIAL SA Game of the Year

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SlightlyMad: Jun 7, 2015; Gary’s Answer

When creating a character, it's good to keep in mind:

Volition (under Psyche) is your Morale skill and Endurance (under Physique) is your health points skill. If these are low, you will die more easily so be warned. I don't think I will do a glass cannon build to start with, before I know what to do. Later playthroughs maybe.

I still expect my character to die on day 1. In hilarious ways.

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Songbearer: Jul 12, 2007; Fuck you say?

Is this game a Yes or is it a Mess

I don't want to spoiler much if it's good so I am keeping reading to a minimum

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SlightlyMad: Jun 7, 2015; Gary’s Answer

Songbearer posted:

Is this game a Yes or is it a Mess

I don't want to spoiler much if it's good so I am keeping reading to a minimum

All reviews point to Yes; It's a Game Of The Year, best RPG of all time, a masterpiece etc.

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UrbicaMortis: Feb 16, 2012; Hmm, how shall I post today?

I'll be amazed if there aren't some bugs with quests not updating since when you have intricate stuff with lots of choices and possible consequences, it's so easy for something to not trigger.

# ? Oct 15, 2019 11:39

Exercu: Dec 7, 2009; EAT WELL, SLEEP WELL, SHIT WELL! THERE'S YOUR ANSWER!!

Songbearer posted:

Is this game a Yes or is it a Mess

I don't want to spoiler much if it's good so I am keeping reading to a minimum

Some reviews are comparing the writing favourably to ps:t. Even if that is hyperbolic, that being the comparison people go to is high praise.

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grate deceiver: Jul 10, 2009; Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.

Guess I'm "working from home" tomorrow.

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Fair Bear Maiden: Jun 17, 2013

Songbearer posted:

Is this game a Yes or is it a Mess

I don't want to spoiler much if it's good so I am keeping reading to a minimum

Everything I've seen points to it being very good with maybe a little bit of clunkiness and overambition on the side. Given I haven't actually played the game or even just seen it in its entirety, I don't really have deeper comments than that, but I think this one will be picked apart and looked at for a long time.

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Mad Wack: Mar 27, 2008; "The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"

i literally watched 20 hours of the game streamed and can confirm it is better written than planescape (especially the pacing of the writing, no huge walls of text here) and close to bug free (one major one 45 hours into the game following a specific dialogue path that the devs are fixing)

it really does live up to the hype

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Mad Wack: Mar 27, 2008; "The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"

it�s amazing how well the inner voice/your skills talking to you system works for breaking up the text into shorter, more juicy bits versus ps:t�s occasionally dry storytime

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CommissarMega: Nov 18, 2008; THUNDERDOME LOSER

SlightlyMad posted:

Volition (under Psyche) is your Morale skill and Endurance (under Physique) is your health points skill. If these are low, you will die more easily so be warned. I don't think I will do a glass cannon build to start with, before I know what to do. Later playthroughs maybe.

Also keep in mind that too high Volition apparently pushes you into being a Boring Cop since it overrides your more 'out-there' impulses, while high Endurance apparently pushes you to Fascism since you're such an obviously superior specimen :allears:

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CottonWolf: Jul 20, 2012; Good ideas generator

CommissarMega posted:

Also keep in mind that too high Volition apparently pushes you into being a Boring Cop since it overrides your more 'out-there' impulses, while high Endurance apparently pushes you to Fascism since you're such an obviously superior specimen

Rhetoric is socialist. I don't know if we know the political inclinations of the other skills yet.

It's crazy that that's a sentence that makes sense to write.

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Hogama: Sep 3, 2011

All the abilities have their own personality, which has been one of their main ideas for the project.
The negative sides might even be surprising, like, say, Empathy. Sure, it helps you know what lines of questioning are distressing a witness. But then it'll push you towards, say, relaxing your chosen feminist tenets because really, that girl needs a Man before she becomes a spinster. And also on that note, the other guy she might possibly have liked? Yeah, it's best to manipulate him into having a strong negative view of her. Empathy just wants what's best for You.

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ShelticRule: Oct 3, 2019

From what I have read, any skill can be useful (although not all equally). but any skill can become a negative at high levels. Which makes sense when you consider that these are less "skills" than aspects of your personality. And people who take one aspect of personality to the extreme generally pay some sort of price.

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Captain Magic: Apr 4, 2005; Yes, we have feathers--but the muscles of men.

Reading the dev blog, they mention a few times how they try to make skills have at least like 50 checks in the game.

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Veris: Jul 5, 2007

CottonWolf posted:

Rhetoric is socialist. I don't know if we know the political inclinations of the other skills yet.

It's crazy that that's a sentence that makes sense to write.

I think savoir faire is a liberal/libertarian since it gave a task for the thought Indirect Modes of Taxation

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fadam: Apr 23, 2008

I'm usually bad about min-maxing and making a "perfect" character in games, but on my first playthrough I'm going to go in completely blind and see what happens. I want to make Jack Reacher and just tough-guy my way through problems.

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frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

definetly gonna push the morality of this game as far as I can, lets see how hosed up we can be

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Hogama: Sep 3, 2011

Some mechanical spoilers on Copotypes and politics (you can eventually see them in-game, but I don't believe you have the knowledge upfront at the start).

There are four political philosophies accounted for: Communist, Fascist, Ultraliberal, and Moralist.
There are also four Copotypes: Superstar, Apocalypse, Sorry, and Boring.
You can also track how often you try Good Cop/Bad Cop and exercise Honour.

There's probably at least one Ability that's particularly tied to each.

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SelenicMartian: Sep 14, 2013; Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Is there an anarchist cop?

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Fate Accomplice: Nov 30, 2006

I am super mad this game isn�t coming out on ps4 or Mac today.

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SlightlyMad: Jun 7, 2015; Gary’s Answer

SelenicMartian posted:

Is there an anarchist cop?

Since you play as a cop, maybe quitting being a cop is the :anarchists:

option? Probably game over though. No gods, no masters.

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SelenicMartian: Sep 14, 2013; Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Two hours to go!

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wiegieman: Apr 22, 2010; Royalty is a continuous cutting motion

The RCM is an entirely citizen funded volunteer force, so you can be a communist cop.

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Sinistral: Jan 2, 2013

Hogama posted:

Some mechanical spoilers on Copotypes and politics (you can eventually see them in-game, but I don't believe you have the knowledge upfront at the start).

There are four political philosophies accounted for: Communist, Fascist, Ultraliberal, and Moralist.
There are also four Copotypes: Superstar, Apocalypse, Sorry, and Boring.
You can also track how often you try Good Cop/Bad Cop and exercise Honour.

There's probably at least one Ability that's particularly tied to each.

Excited to be a Boring Ultraliberal just like I am in real life.

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dead gay comedy forums: Oct 21, 2011

SlightlyMad posted:

Volition (under Psyche) is your Morale skill and Endurance (under Physique) is your health points skill. If these are low, you will die more easily so be warned. I don't think I will do a glass cannon build to start with

couldn't help but to think that this concept is hilarious in such a game

then you find out that a "Glass Cannon" build is Electrochemistry max and the game acknowledges this, if so, GOTD

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Quicksilver6: Mar 21, 2008

I�m pretty sure I saw the mention of fragility in the character archetype selection, but I can�t find the screenshot

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Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

I've been browsing the subreddit for the game, and have come across a couple of cool little anecdotes from someone who got an early copy:

quote:

Been playing this one for a while now. It's the best game of the year. Took me around 45 hours to beat and I went with the 'Dumb but strong' build as I knew the game would be dialogue heavy and I wanted to see how much of a struggle it was. I 'died' by having a conversation with a fat intellectual 'mob boss' who persuaded me to give up my job as a detective and there was nothing I could do to stop it! 10/10.

quote:

On the flip side I saw someone make an extremely intelligent character who had a heart attack trying to get their tie off a ceiling fan in the first 15 minutes and died. So there's plenty of opportunity to die no matter the build.

Some physical attributes help in conversations, speed of response, intimidation etc.

quote:

Well for context, i've had the game for a fair bit now and I started playing as a 'sensitive' preset character, empathetic, weak, but interesting. I had a lot of dialogue based around 'hunches'. I got about 10 hours into the game and lost my way with it because I was travelling a lot IRL. I came back, the build of the game had updated to the review build and I started this 'Macho cop playthrough'.

The differences were vast.

I felt the hand-eye coordination helped me pull off some really big time-saving moves. I spent 2 hours going around a problem with 'Sensitive Cop' when I just ploughed through that problem with one strength check when I was a Macho Cop.

Another instance I found it useful was that I used my physicality to obtain an item I couldn't as Sensitive Cop, which gave me evidence to present to suspects, so a conversation that may have been an 'intellectual chess game' with my smart character was changed with my dumb character because i'd sourced this evidence I couldn't have gotten otherwise.

Honestly I didn't feel like it was a disadvantage and this game is really really good at making you feel like you're making the wrong choices a lot, because your character is a piece of poo poo.

My number 1 tip, and please heed my words, is roll with it. Choices I made and regretted came back round 4-5 hours later and I was glad I ended up not savescumming and I had a great time!

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Mr. Fall Down Terror: Jan 24, 2018; by Fluffdaddy

is there a good spoiler free guide anywhere for what the various skills represent? something i can read to prep so i don't spend two hours on character creation tonight but lets me go into the game as blind as possible

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Chello De Don: Nov 12, 2006; and now i do

Check the game's website, there should be posts from the developers that explain what each major attribute does.

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Overminty: Mar 16, 2010; You may wonder what I am doing while reading your posts..

There are links to them in the OP too

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CommissarMega: Nov 18, 2008; THUNDERDOME LOSER

luxury handset posted:

is there a good spoiler free guide anywhere for what the various skills represent? something i can read to prep so i don't spend two hours on character creation tonight but lets me go into the game as blind as possible

RPS has a somewhat light guide to the skills here, and the Thought Cabinet here.

CommissarMega fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Oct 15, 2019

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Mr. Fall Down Terror: Jan 24, 2018; by Fluffdaddy

thanks all

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haldolium: Oct 22, 2016

Hype. Just a few more minutes

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CommissarMega: Nov 18, 2008; THUNDERDOME LOSER

haldolium posted:

Hype. Just a few more minutes

Where do you live? Steam's saying 'approximately 1 hour' for me.

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CottonWolf: Jul 20, 2012; Good ideas generator

Yeah, it's about an hour and twenty till it unlocks. Not that I'm counting down the minutes and its completely distracting me from work or anything.

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Wicked Them Beats: Apr 1, 2007; Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

It should be dropping at 10 AM PST when Steam updates daily, so unless you have a time machine or Steam is doing something funky with timezones it's unlocking in approximately 1 hour 16 minutes.

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Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

Launch trailer just dropped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWWA1jnI5N4

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Megazver: Jan 13, 2006

guess we know what the Paste Magazine review will be like, lol:

https://twitter.com/winnersusedrugs/status/1184131343023656960

https://twitter.com/winnersusedrugs/status/1184131800253120512

https://twitter.com/winnersusedrugs/status/1184132735436124160

https://twitter.com/winnersusedrugs/status/1184133176089645056

PORTRAYAL... is endorsement

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Wicked Them Beats: Apr 1, 2007; Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Lol gonna be some great hot takes in the next few days

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frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

Megazver posted:

guess we know what the Paste Magazine review will be like, lol:

PORTRAYAL... is endorsement

these people don't deserve this game

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