|
ronya posted:Wonder what the wording of the second referendum amendment will be. [ ] Champion [ ] Linger e: Cat Tax, and another 1606 fleg in the wild 
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 12:59
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 13:54 |
|
|
Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Pay some other kids on the sly to kick the poo poo out of them. owners of battle royale are gonna sue you for this
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 12:59
|
|
|
Tesseraction posted:[squeeaky lib dem voice] we want referendum b/c corbin a oval office the LDEM plan of a stunt of tabling an amendment that won't be selected by the speaker has been outpaced by events... to clarify: I wonder what the wording of Labour's second referendum amendment will be
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:00
|
|
|
I wanna see Boris muster fewer votes than May on Saturday.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:01
|
|
|
Guavanaut posted:It comes in two versions. That's cool - has a Kanizsa Triangle vibe to it
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:04
|
|
|
Necrothatcher posted:That's not a bad idea! But how can I work out which school these kids go to? You mentioned racial abuse so maybe report it as a hate crime which might be taken a bit more seriously. If the couple are Muslim (or you think that's what the harassers believe) you could maybe get in touch with TellMAMA on twitter or something - as far as I know they just take reports from victims, but they might be able to point you in the right direction. Feels like an actual advocacy group might be able to put more pressure on the police, push it to the media etc also has anyone filmed this happening? phone footage is probably gonna be way more useful than CCTV, it's probably more likely to get attention and they might actually clear out if they feel like they've been identified doing this poo poo. Doesn't mean the problem would be solved but at least if they're not actively doing it it's less likely to escalate
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:07
|
|
|
Guavanaut posted:Should the United Kingdom Champion the very strong and cool deal, or Linger in the European Union? After amendment: Should the UK escape the perfidious EU via a literal tunnel of poo poo like Andy Dufresne, or remain trapped within their cruel prison praying for parole one day like Red Boyd? [ ] poo poo tunnel [ ] Cruel prison
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:10
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKuPfZpzEHg&t=109s ah the question of "where's the line between northern and southern england" finally solved!
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:15
|
|
|
baka kaba posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKuPfZpzEHg&t=109s Totally wrong, the south is whererver is further south than I am at any moment in time.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:18
|
|
|
North is anywhere up the A38 from Ivybridge. Fight me.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:19
|
|
|
Sanitary Naptime posted:This is a much snazzier looking flag to put a mic and sickle over  baka kaba posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKuPfZpzEHg&t=109s
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:19
|
|
|
If you know someone's from England, but you want to know if they're from somewhere in the south like Waleshire, here's how
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:23
|
|
|
Guavanaut posted:Might upset the English though, so *in very centrist voice* as a compromise. Ok now I'm getting a Two Cowboys T Shirt vibe
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:23
|
|
|
OwlFancier posted:Totally wrong, the south is whererver is further south than I am at any moment in time. What happens when you go to somewhere south of england, does it underflow to max?
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:24
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/Laura_K_Hughes/status/1184802447925137411
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:26
|
|
|
inshallah
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:26
|
|
|
Stormgale posted:What happens when you go to somewhere south of england, does it underflow to max? I went to spain once as a kid, I can only assume everyone else in the country experienced a critical surge in consumption of pease pudding and stotties.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:27
|
|
|
lol facebook are dooming democracy because its all former bush staff and other republicans in charge https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1184797880709763072?s=20
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:32
|
|
|
So have I got this right? Bohnson wants a vote on this deal Saturday, and the opposition are saying they'll only vote for it if there's a confirmatory referendum (vs Remain I assume) attached to it? And there's basically no way to hold a referendum before the 31st right? So if the government can't force this through with no conditions there'll need to be an extension anyway? if so it all seems like a stalling tactic more than genuinely wanting to put this deal to the people. It looks better than just outright refusing to back the deal though, which is probably a good thing since the press have been acting like something worthwhile has been happening because it makes for a good story Jose posted:lol facebook are dooming democracy because its all former bush staff and other republicans in charge https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1184591043758559233
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:33
|
|
|
Necrothatcher posted:Hey UKMT what do I do in this situation. I live next to a newsagents and know the couple that run it really well. Lately, they've had a gang of kids (maybe 10-12 years old) coming in, racially abusing them, throwing stuff around the shop, throwing eggs at the windows at night and openly stealing stuff. The couple are really scared and have called the police, but they turn up hours after the incident, stay there for a few minutes and obviously don't give a poo poo. Licenced premises?
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:36
|
|
|
pitch a fitness posted:Ok now I'm getting a Two Cowboys T Shirt vibe  Jose posted:lol facebook are dooming democracy because its all former bush staff and other republicans in charge
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:37
|
|
|
baka kaba posted:So have I got this right? Bohnson wants a vote on this deal Saturday, and the opposition are saying they'll only vote for it if there's a confirmatory referendum (vs Remain I assume) attached to it? And there's basically no way to hold a referendum before the 31st right? So if the government can't force this through with no conditions there'll need to be an extension anyway? Depends on which opposition. It's still being hashed out but it looks like Labour will first try to vote down the deal and if that fails then add an amendment for a confirmatory vote. Libdems uh may push for the amendment first and then support the deal on that basis? Guavanaut posted:
I think people really seem to be oblivious of the fact that facebook owns instragram...
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:38
|
|
|
what a reward lmao https://twitter.com/JamesCrisp6/status/1184810175754113025
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:38
|
|
|
Guavanaut posted:Might upset the English though, so *in very centrist voice* as a compromise. For the boomers: 
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:38
|
|
|
Four British columns piling right into each other is very Modern Britain.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:41
|
|
|
boris got defeated on having only a90 minute debate and 1 amendment before a vote https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1184811351153283073?s=20
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:41
|
|
|
Jose posted:what a reward lmao Lmao someone at the EU really hates Barnier
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:44
|
|
|
I'm dying from tooth pain and the schaudenfreude of bojo losing both the dup and farage, this is incredible Bojo is the Tony Abbott of Britain, a man so obsessed with a thing that he gets it, but in so doing flies too close to the sun and crashes to the earth i dunno, i'm a bit off, i''m just lolling about it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:46
|
|
|
Jose posted:boris got defeated on having only a90 minute debate and 1 amendment before a vote That's what, 1-9 against now?
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:46
|
|
|
so I assume with DUP saying 'lol no' and Borris losing the timetable vote this deal has as much chance of passing as the past ones that have gone down in flames? What about this deal is so bad he can't get his fellow right wingers on board, or is it just an inverse of when May was dealing with the hard brexit folks?
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:47
|
|
|
sexpig by night posted:so I assume with DUP saying 'lol no' and Borris losing the timetable vote this deal has as much chance of passing as the past ones that have gone down in flames? What about this deal is so bad he can't get his fellow right wingers on board, or is it just an inverse of when May was dealing with the hard brexit folks? It's not that the deal is too bad. It's that it's too good. As bad as it is, any deal is too good for the ultras.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:53
|
|
|
sexpig by night posted:so I assume with DUP saying 'lol no' and Borris losing the timetable vote this deal has as much chance of passing as the past ones that have gone down in flames? What about this deal is so bad he can't get his fellow right wingers on board, or is it just an inverse of when May was dealing with the hard brexit folks? sort of the latter? but basically the tories dont have the ability to pass the legislation on their own, they can't even pass it with the DUP on board (which they're not anymore) - none of the opposition trust any deal that gets crafted because they're all having second thoughts about brexit. so even if the tories were operating as a single unit (they're not) and had the dup on board (they're not) they still couldn't overcome the greens / lab / lib dem combo
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:54
|
|
|
A referendum amendment will probably pass and means the deal will probably pass. Anyone asking for a second ref but then voting it down will look nuts and a wrecker at absolute best.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:54
|
|
|
sexpig by night posted:so I assume with DUP saying 'lol no' and Borris losing the timetable vote this deal has as much chance of passing as the past ones that have gone down in flames? What about this deal is so bad he can't get his fellow right wingers on board, or is it just an inverse of when May was dealing with the hard brexit folks? The ERG will happily throw northern ireland into the sea to get their way, the DUP are a NI part so they demand integration with the UK. The deal differs from may's deal in that it basically makes NI more aligned with the republic of ireland than the UK, which does not please the unionists. They're both tories so they align on broadly everything except northern ireland.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:54
|
|
|
ThomasPaine posted:
Something that's been on my mind and I've been very concerned about is how the Labour antisemitism stuff can become something of a self fulfilling prophecy. You have all these ridiculous histrionics and bad faith attacks from right wing sources like Labour Friends of Israel or the Jewish chronicle, because they hate Labour's move leftwards under Corbyn, or they're just straight up Tories. My fear is that, as a result of this, people will see these endless attacks on themselves and their politics and start to think that there actually is some sort of Jewish conspiracy trying to suppress leftist movements. We've already seen elements of it with some ill advised statements about Zionist lobbies and stuff, and it's not as if people on the left are immune to some crank-like thinking at times. Am I doing people a disservice here? I don't know, it's just really frustrating that there seems to be no effective way to push back on it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 13:57
|
|
|
No, and that's the point. The papers love to whip up racism to sell copies and because the people in charge of them are invariably rich, right wing assholes.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 14:01
|
|
|
Today is really making me lose my grip on Buddha nature Admittedly that's only partly because of the news, I also just seem to be more and more given to fits of near uncontrollable extreme anger recently, plus also being surrounded by huge crowds of coughing, sneezing students is making me want to start throwing punches in every direction I greatly dislike these moods
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 14:05
|
|
|
tithin posted:sort of the latter? but basically the tories dont have the ability to pass the legislation on their own, they can't even pass it with the DUP on board (which they're not anymore) - none of the opposition trust any deal that gets crafted because they're all having second thoughts about brexit. interesting, thanks! So where does it go from here? More extensions keeping the farce up forever?
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 14:07
|
|
|
Still B.A.E posted:Something that's been on my mind and I've been very concerned about is how the Labour antisemitism stuff can become something of a self fulfilling prophecy. You have all these ridiculous histrionics and bad faith attacks from right wing sources like Labour Friends of Israel or the Jewish chronicle, because they hate Labour's move leftwards under Corbyn, or they're just straight up Tories. My fear is that, as a result of this, people will see these endless attacks on themselves and their politics and start to think that there actually is some sort of Jewish conspiracy trying to suppress leftist movements. We've already seen elements of it with some ill advised statements about Zionist lobbies and stuff, and it's not as if people on the left are immune to some crank-like thinking at times. Am I doing people a disservice here? I don't know, it's just really frustrating that there seems to be no effective way to push back on it. This is the Isis (and Israel) play book in a nutshell if you go the extra step of "and then those people will actually be lovely to jews/Muslims (delete as appropriate) which will drive them into the warm embrace of isis/israel/the right" namesake posted:A referendum amendment will probably pass and means the deal will probably pass. Anyone asking for a second ref but then voting it down will look nuts and a wrecker at absolute best. I think I agree, it's pretty likely that we're getting a referendum on this deal vs remain UNLESS Labour go for a GE once the extension is secured and try to put their deal in instead of joris' deal in the ref, but that's quite a long shot with a lot of potential pitfalls, imo Miftan fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Oct 17, 2019 |
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 14:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 13:54 |
|
|
Still B.A.E posted:Something that's been on my mind and I've been very concerned about is how the Labour antisemitism stuff can become something of a self fulfilling prophecy. You have all these ridiculous histrionics and bad faith attacks from right wing sources like Labour Friends of Israel or the Jewish chronicle, because they hate Labour's move leftwards under Corbyn, or they're just straight up Tories. My fear is that, as a result of this, people will see these endless attacks on themselves and their politics and start to think that there actually is some sort of Jewish conspiracy trying to suppress leftist movements. We've already seen elements of it with some ill advised statements about Zionist lobbies and stuff, and it's not as if people on the left are immune to some crank-like thinking at times. Am I doing people a disservice here? I don't know, it's just really frustrating that there seems to be no effective way to push back on it. As in, there is a coordinated effort from Labour Friends of Israel and the JC and so on to paint the Labour left as antisemitic, and many of the people behind it happen to be Jewish or perceive themselves as fighting for the interests of Jewish people (which is antisemitic itself, 'the interests of Jewish people' do not necessitate being anti-left or pro-Israel). That doesn't make it a 'Jewish conspiracy' any more than the organized child sexual exploitation scandal in Rotherham was because of 'Muslim grooming gangs', with all that implies, and if people start to make generalizations about either group based on that then that's a bad thing and should be stopped.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 14:10
|
|