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suicidesteve posted:Perfect color fixing, providing protection from one of the main sources of interaction of the format, recurring that very same source of interaction, removal, and a win condition is not "fine" on a 2 mana card. Oh, no I was talking about modern. I agree that recurring wasteland seems reeeeeal abusive, though I don't know much about legacy and will be playing a not super interactive deck when I start.
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Who really cares about Legacy? Instead on banning W6, how about they just unban Deathrite?  Edit: Also, why is Earthcraft still banned?
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Oct 17, 2019 11:28
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Wasteland is a piece of poo poo card to have in the first place, it was bad before W&6.
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Oct 17, 2019 12:05
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Play more basics.
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Oct 17, 2019 12:34
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Panzeh posted:Wasteland is a piece of poo poo card to have in the first place, it was bad before W&6. Wasteland is good because it rewards basics and helps slow the game down. Print wasteland in standard.
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Oct 17, 2019 12:39
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Back to basics a standard card when. Is there any particular reason this dredge list plays lightning strike instead of bolt? Trying to dodge chalice on 1 g2/g3? https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2374805#paper
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Oct 17, 2019 12:42
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ungulateman posted:Hot take: being a mana dork that doesn't die to Wrenn and Six means it honestly should have some modern and legacy demand (until they ban wrenn and six in all formats). You need your dork to always tap for mana. This card doesn’t do that.
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ilmucche posted:Back to basics a standard card when. I almost feel like I'd rather play murderous cut
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neaden posted:Wasteland is good because it rewards basics and helps slow the game down. Print wasteland in standard. ya wasteland whips it should be in modern
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Oct 17, 2019 13:36
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Wasteland should be evergreen.
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kalvanoo posted:ya wasteland whips it should be in modern  Wastes land.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:47
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Voyager I posted:Uh, actually BFZ completely hosed the price of Standard by combining types duals to combine with fetchlands. Every deck was some 4c pile running 12+ Fetches and then probably also a playset of Baby Jace at like $70 a pop. The competitive decks of that era were no-poo poo $700 and the backlash online was immense. I feel like this is deliberately misunderstanding what I said. I didn't say "BFZ Standard" (as in right as that set was released), I said "around BFZ", which is when the first steps were taken to fix that exact situation caused by KTK fetchlands and Origins cards, not by BFZ cards being expensive. As soon as KTK rotated, look at the price of standard decks compared to months earlier. Even prior to Khans, standard decks were more expensive than they are now, pushing $400 on average. But we're seeing an uptick again, which is thanks to moving what was a great tool for keeping singles prices down into separate products.
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Oct 17, 2019 16:08
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Where the gently caress am I meant to find the Brawl decks, all of them except for the black/green one are basically nowhere to be found except marked up 50% on eBay. This sucks. 
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https://twitter.com/GamerPres2020/status/1184549153780711424
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http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=15522&writer=Nick+Prince&articledate=10-17-2019 there is absolutely no way Oko is catching a ban this time. They would ban forests and islands before they admit they over-pushed the big new marquee planeswalker of the most recent set this soon.
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Oct 17, 2019 17:35
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Banning loving Veil of Summer would be hilarious.
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Oct 17, 2019 17:49
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Justin_Brett posted:Banning loving Veil of Summer would be hilarious. Even better, just unprint it.
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Oct 17, 2019 17:51
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Justin_Brett posted:Banning loving Veil of Summer would be hilarious. Remember the last time they banned a one mana green spell? Yeah, it was Attune With Aether. A better Lay of the Land.
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Owlbear Camus posted:http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=15522&writer=Nick+Prince&articledate=10-17-2019 I'm still mildly upset they banned Felidar Guardian, the fun blink cat, instead of Saheeli.
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LifeLynx posted:I'm still mildly upset they banned Felidar Guardian, the fun blink cat, instead of Saheeli. Saheeli was definitely the correct ban but lol if you think they'll ban an otherwise unplayable $30 mythic instead of the fun, still playable 50 cent uncommon.
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I know these guys have to produce content but there's no way anything in here besides Field is even being considered for a ban.
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Oct 17, 2019 18:25
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IDK how anyone did a 180 degree turn on Oko. That card was obviously busted. I could see it getting banned along with Field, if they think it'll be too dominant if Field is gone, same logic as Reflector Mage and Rampaging Ferocidon. Certainly not instead.
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Oct 17, 2019 18:34
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If it gets banned it’ll be a set or two later when they’re not making as much money off of it anymore
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We definitely need some sort of system where posters in this thread can weigh in on cards prior to release in a public, easily sortable way. Whoever predicts the impact of the most cards correctly gets to be king of the thread.
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Oct 17, 2019 19:10
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The king of the thread is the guy who hosed
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suicidesteve posted:Saheeli was definitely the correct ban but lol if you think they'll ban an otherwise unplayable $30 mythic instead of the fun, still playable 50 cent uncommon. Saheeli wasn't broken on its own and had potential to been playable, but cat was never going to be relevant in constructed so it caught the 
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Oct 17, 2019 19:14
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W6 plus astrolabe in legacy creates this really weird effect on the format where wasteland with W6 is so good that the best way to combat it is to play 4c astrolabe piles with W6 yourself (or RUG delver I guess). I guess it sort of warps the format, but luckily no one cares about legacy. I have a bunch of legacy decks available but can't be bothered to sleeve them up. Only 8 people show up at the monthly legacy tournaments and they insist on playing 6 rounds on a sunday.
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stump collector posted:The king of the thread is the guy who hosed God, between that, McMagic (rip) blowing it on lil’Jace and fighting people about it for a whole year, and 80s James Hetfield swaggerjacking someone here on Reddit then pretending it was his “friend” who posts under the exact same name in the exact same topics, this thread and this card game have brought me more joy than anything else in my entire life, namaste.
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fadam posted:We definitely need some sort of system where posters in this thread can weigh in on cards prior to release in a public, easily sortable way. Whoever predicts the impact of the most cards correctly gets to be king of the thread. I thought that's what Thunderdome was for. Would love to see a this thread vs arena thread tournament.
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fadam posted:We definitely need some sort of system where posters in this thread can weigh in on cards prior to release in a public, easily sortable way. Whoever predicts the impact of the most cards correctly gets to be king of the thread. I lay claim to the crown. Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Kanister is hogaaking people in Vintage now Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Does it need anything else? It’s really hard to attack down, gives you life and/or blockers if they don’t, removes hard to deal with threats, and dominates an empty or stalled board. It seems generically great to me
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ItBreathes posted:I thought that's what Thunderdome was for.
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oh thank loving christ! my neighbor just called me and apparently all of my cards stolen from my house got dumped on his stoop. from a cursory glance it seems all of the cards were dumped by the thief. looks like i only lost my kindle, my messenger bag and my notes from class. still sucks but jesus is this a relief THANK gently caress
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A big flaming stink posted:oh thank loving christ! God bless. What were you reading on the Kindle?
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A big flaming stink posted:oh thank loving christ! Nice bud. The advantage of having your money sunk into cardboard!
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fadam posted:God bless. What were you reading on the Kindle? i was in between like 3 books. gormenghast, the telling, and something else
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A big flaming stink posted:i was in between like 3 books. gormenghast, the telling, and something else Gg is sick
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fadam posted:Gg is sick yeah it is! though its a helluva dense read. oh i remembered the other book was satantango
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Oct 17, 2019 19:50
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I want to tell that thief that he kept a $200 e-reader but dumped probably 5X as much in easier to fence merchandise.
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Sorry about your other stolen stuff but congrats on being having the world's dumbest burglar.
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Retromancer posted:$200 e-reader Not even. These things have come way down in price. I just had to replace mine and the latest generation paperwhite even with the extortion fee to remove the ads was only like $140. I don't know if there's a way to bypass linking an amazon account to it, but if you report it stolen to Amazon they shouldn't be able to register it and/or Amazon can find out who has it if they see that serial number get used.
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