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Young Freud posted:Also gaining in the polls Moore is very unlikely to get the Republican nomination. It's likely to go to some relatively generic Alabama Republican who probably won't have stories about their pedophilia arise during the campaign.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Do you really want to see the VP o face? I refuse to believe that Mike Pence is physically capable of making any other facial expression beyond squinting slightly harder
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Data Graham posted:I feel like there's got to be a snowball effect coming soon, where Trump supporters who have been backing him this whole time will quite suddenly flip as soon as they understand it's safe to do so. Not gonna happen until they have some other political figure within the same ballpark as him to hitch their wagon to. Like yeah they might turn on Trump, but they're never going to acknowledge that the other side was right all along, or that they were wrong to ever support him. They'll just hop over to some other crass fashy dipshit.
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evilweasel posted:here's the key part: I wonder if the Senate rules allow the PO to do that thing where they call a voice vote and just say "eh, sounds like you guys mostly agree with me  "
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Qwertycoatl posted:I don't see the details of what Roberts can do or wants to do really mattering much in the end. All the crimes will be getting exposed by House Dems so the trial is meaningless except for the votes at the end, and those will be based on political considerations rather than anything that happened in the trial Roberts will have an interest in running the trial in such a way that it burnishes his (and by extension, the Supreme Court's) reputation as fair arbiters (because he keeps spending that currency on lunatic rulings, and wants to keep above water). Mitch would have an interest in running the trial in the short-term interests of the Republican Party. So there will be differences in how they'd approach things.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Look at that crowd There are dozens of us. DOZENS.
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This is occurring if anyone is interested https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1184846365500809216?s=20
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evilweasel posted:here's the key part: according to a 1999 NYT piece I found from Linda Greenhouse, the answer is definitively no because the Chief Justice, as Presiding Officer, assumes the tiebreaking duties the Vice President normally holds as President of the Senate quote:Of course for the ultimate vote on conviction, which requires two-thirds of the Senators voting, the question of a tie and thus a vote by the Chief Justice couldn't come up. However, during the impeachment trial of Andrew Johnson, it did come up on procedural issues, and Chief Justice Chase in fact voted twice to break ties on procedural motions. This annoyed several Senators, who introduced motions to prevent the Chief Justice from voting. These motions were defeated. So it appears that the Chief Justice may in fact vote to break a tie. or at least, it's never been tried before and all historical precedent is contrary to allowing the veep to do it eke out fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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evilweasel posted:Roberts will have an interest in running the trial in such a way that it burnishes his (and by extension, the Supreme Court's) reputation as fair arbiters (because he keeps spending that currency on lunatic rulings, and wants to keep above water). Mitch would have an interest in running the trial in the short-term interests of the Republican Party. So there will be differences in how they'd approach things. Yeah but those differences won't affect what happens to the orange piss baby unless they really do go for the nuclear option of a secret ballot
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Rigel posted:New poll from PPP Wow, -22? Even with PPP's house slant that's still near -20.
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eke out posted:according to a 1999 NYT piece I found from Linda Greenhouse, the answer is definitively no because the Chief Justice, as Presiding Officer, assumes the tiebreaking duties the Vice President normally holds as President of the Senate Very cool, did not know that. That'll be interesting.
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evilweasel posted:Roberts will have an interest in running the trial in such a way that it burnishes his (and by extension, the Supreme Court's) reputation as fair arbiters (because he keeps spending that currency on lunatic rulings, and wants to keep above water). Mitch would have an interest in running the trial in the short-term interests of the Republican Party. So there will be differences in how they'd approach things. Out of curiosity I looked back at the Clinton impeachment. Just about the only non-trivial ruling Rehnquist had to make was one dipshit Senator insisted on voting "not proved", and so Rehnquist ruled that meant his vote was "not guilty".
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Rigel posted:Out of curiosity I looked back at the Clinton impeachment. Just about the only non-trivial ruling Rehnquist had to make was one dipshit Senator insisted on voting "not proved", and so Rehnquist ruled that meant his vote was "not guilty". Arlen Specter, kind of a proto-douche Rand Paul. He was my Senator at the time and man was I pissed 
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:If it's Moore Doug Jones may win again. It's hilarious and disappointing that this is a very accurate portrayal of Alabama voting tendencies. edit lol https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1184854018595708929?s=20 skylined! fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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I thought Mo Brooks was thinking of going for the GOP nod; I mean, if you win in Alabama as a Republican you're pretty much set for life.
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Also Tuberville has been non-stop talking poo poo about Auburn as being too liberal so he's not exactly winning support from a lot of Auburn fans in the first place. Mo Brooks is running. We'll see how he does but Alabama voters are politically ignorant and don't know him. They'll vote for a shiny celebrity in the primary.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:I thought Mo Brooks was thinking of going for the GOP nod; I mean, if you win in Alabama as a Republican you're pretty much set for life. He's out, decided to stay in the house. The last poll had Moore 3rd out of 4, with Tuberville leading at 33%. edit: AlBorlantern Corps posted:Mo Brooks is running. We'll see how he does but Alabama voters are politically ignorant and don't know him. They'll vote for a shiny celebrity in the primary. He said he was out earlier this year, but said he might run in 2022 if Shelby retires. Rigel fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Oct 17, 2019 16:34
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Continuing their rhetoric of "the 2016 presidential election is the only election".
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skylined! posted:It's hilarious and disappointing that this is a very accurate portrayal of Alabama voting tendencies. https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1184855570592890880 on another note https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1184856630741131265?s=20
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Oct 17, 2019 16:40
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Even if the company did something totally innocuous, you forfeit your money the second you invest in an organization named Fraud Guarantee. I am not technically a lawyer but there's some things I'm pretty sure about
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This person really should've to looked up the meaning of 'guarantee' prior to investing.
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quote:A farming business owned by the family of West Virginia's billionaire governor has received $125,000 in soybean and corn subsidies, the maximum allowed from a federal program meant to help American farmers through the U.S. trade war with China. https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/apnewsbreak-billionaire-governors-family-farms-141358337.html
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Oct 17, 2019 16:55
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Also Tuberville has been non-stop talking poo poo about Auburn as being too liberal so he's not exactly winning support from a lot of Auburn fans in the first place. The only thing Tuberville is good at is jumping out of bathroom windows to avoid paying for dinner. https://youtu.be/zIdX4Lk-G_8 All Doug Jones needs to do is play this 24/7
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Another bit of information trickles out of the disinformation campaign about the cop that shot Atatiana Jefferson. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/us/police-response-fort-worth-shooting/index.html quote:The Fort Worth officer who shot Atatiana Jefferson wasn't actually asked to do a wellness check This pig is gonna walk. LOL at people saying the police department isn't sticking up for him. Little bits of information are leaking out constantly and they are increasingly on the side of the cop. They are essentially starting defense proceedings for him in the media.
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beejay posted:Another bit of information trickles out of the disinformation campaign about the cop that shot Atatiana Jefferson. This is loving insane. He killed a woman for playing video games I don't give a gently caress about "the police officer's mindset"; gently caress the hell off
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https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1184865235401875457 easy to forget that Giuliani is also violating FARA by representing iranian terrorists too, not just ukrainian oligarchs
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Generic American posted:I refuse to believe that Mike Pence is physically capable of making any other facial expression beyond squinting slightly harder Uhm, excuse me! I think you mean displaying the fierce resolution and steely determination of America. 
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Elijah Cummings is dead and Donald Trump still draws breath. gently caress this gay Earth.
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Gyges posted:So Donny released the summary of his perfect conversation with the Ukrainian President, handed out copies of the that insane letter to Erdogan, and has repeatedly tweeted pictures that make the Democrats look great in the batshit meltdown meeting. The letter also indicated that he'd enclosed a copy of a letter an allied general sent him, before ending with 'I'll call you later.' There's an outside chance the release of the letter was a deliberate message to that general: all further correspondence will be forwarded to your enemies - who I frequently call by phone. If it's not a deliberate message, it's a hell of a fuckup. If it is, it's a hell of a fuckup. Folk seem to still be processing this one.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:If it's Moore Doug Jones may win again. Ok first of all gently caress you for dragging Auburn football hot takes into the uspol thread, and then gently caress you again for them being absolutely correct takes. Tuberville is actually probably the best R the state can come up with, most of the rest of them are either Roy Moore or are under active ethics investigations. I am heartened that Jones seems to be settling into the "Democrat, but not one of the Bad Ones" role that he's pretty much got to be in if he's going to get reelected in this state. Yes, he's a Bad Dem, he voted to confirm Barr, I know. But we need all the D's in the Senate we can get.
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Wow I missed an insane 8 days on vacation to (mostly) unplug. So much poo poo happened it seems like, kind of impossible to keep up on everything! Rest in Power Elijah Cummings, that totally sucks.
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ewiley posted:Literally you just raise FICA taxes. When businesses don't have to pay for healthcare (theoretically) they have more money available to pay workers, which then becomes a wash when you raise their income taxes. Businesses then stop paying for insurance and start paying taxes to the US government at roughly the same amounts they were self-funding their insurance for. Yessss, thank you. I work in the back office of a small business that employs about 200 people and our insurance costs eat a huge hole in our net income. Not only that but every year we have to renew our insurance contracts and that’s a HUGE headache that takes up A LOT of time. Then there’s having to manage new hires, terminations, qualifying life events, answering constant health care related questions, and low key trying to convince our employees to be healthier so our premiums don’t skyrocket. Having almost any reasonable increase in FICA would more than offset the direct and indirect business costs of private health insurance.
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beejay posted:Another bit of information trickles out of the disinformation campaign about the cop that shot Atatiana Jefferson. This isn't a new leak. NPR reported three days ago that police responded to it as an "open door call." The officer's arrest warrant explicitly stated Jefferson pointed a gun at him, so they were working on a defense before the arrest even happened, but this info about the type of call isn't a timed leak. It apparently just took some newspapers a few days to figure out what it meant.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Lol jesus christ I hate cops but this is an actual example of a department doing nearly everything right in the face of a cop murdering someone. Reform has to START somewhere "nearly" *shoots a woman through her bedroom window* Don't worry guys I did nearly everything right just now
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God, they want a dictator so goddamned bad
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quote:House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was asked about the timeline of the impeachment inquiry and if the process might bleed into the 2020 election. gonna need thread's help deciding how this is proof pelosi is the worst politician ever
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VitalSigns posted:"nearly" it's kitchen but yeah
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