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superLINUS posted:Where’s my free podcast that I do absolutely nothing to help produce?!? Recording it in like 20 minutes.
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Tarnop posted:Latest update from my credulous melt of an MP So now all of this idiot's constituents are going to believe that ITS BORIS' DEAL OR NO DEAL!!! because she couldn't want to actually check the facts before she sent this out? wtf
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Oct 17, 2019 20:10
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superLINUS posted:Where’s my free podcast that I do absolutely nothing to help produce?!? Being recorded now so will be edited and released when our sound engineer has a spare few hours/insomnia. Halisnacks posted:Is there any way this deal gets through without a referendum? There's always 3) deal doesnt pass, Boris doesn't request extension, ??????????????????? So prepare yourself because that's what's happening. However it's potentially going to pass! https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1184894286728499201?s=19
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Oct 17, 2019 20:11
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If a podcaster says refers to Armatage Shanks as a real person they know I will donate £10 to MSF
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Oct 17, 2019 20:16
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So that's a loss by 25+ then going by previous votes
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Oct 17, 2019 20:17
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I dont see how labour can support a referendum on this deal versus remain if its as poo poo as everyone says it is and the whole point of labour's recent strategy has been to only do a proper referendum how they should be done where they are impartial and prepared to implement either option? So they surely aren't going to go for a referendum on this before any election which gives them the opportunity to do a different deal?
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Oct 17, 2019 20:23
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I think the suggestion is they would oppose it because it's bad, but if it passes anyway, they'll support a referendum on it. Or, rather, they'll probably support an amendment to the bill to add a referendum in case it passes, but vote the whole thing down at the end.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:26
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https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1184905532009832449 If Corbyn doesn't make clear that voting for this deal means losing the whip, it'll be a massive, massive mistake. No incentive to court leave voters if you're not going to be running as a Labour MP.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:27
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If they pass his deal, they hand him a huge majority in the GE. Absolutely loving ridiculous any of them are even considering it
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Oct 17, 2019 20:29
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Can they put four lines under it?
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Oct 17, 2019 20:31
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They're not, the press is just heavily invested in the whole thing seeming like grand drama rather than mediocre idiocy.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:31
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The Lib Dems won't support Corbyn to request an extension so this is just weighing the consequences of getting over the loving A50 part of Brexit and trying to move onto other topics versus still slamming their heads into a wall trying to get an election first.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:32
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josh04 posted:They're not, the press is just heavily invested in the whole thing seeming like grand drama rather than mediocre idiocy. Aye, same poo poo was pulled before each of may's attempts Joris gonna lose
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Oct 17, 2019 20:34
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Bardeh posted:If they pass his deal, they hand him a huge majority in the GE. Absolutely loving ridiculous any of them are even considering it For a lot of Labour MPs this is the ideal outcome, provided they keep their seat. Corbyn quits, they have their evidence that the Left can't win elections, and they can try and take over the party again. Funniest timeline is still the vote going to a tie, and Bercow's last act as speaker being to vote it down.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:34
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I dont see how labour can support a referendum on this deal versus remain if its as poo poo as everyone says it is and the whole point of labour's recent strategy has been to only do a proper referendum how they should be done where they are impartial and prepared to implement either option? So they surely aren't going to go for a referendum on this before any election which gives them the opportunity to do a different deal? Yeah, agreed. Though I suppose it might be hard to get support for a referendum amendment if you don’t at least pretend you’d then vote for the main deal in exchange for it.
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namesake posted:The Lib Dems won't support Corbyn to request an extension so this is just weighing the consequences of getting over the loving A50 part of Brexit and trying to move onto other topics versus still slamming their heads into a wall trying to get an election first. To 99.9% of the electorate the A50 part of Brexit is all they care about. Boris gets to say he delivered Brexit, Labour leavers will have handed that to him on a plate, and he will win the election with a landslide.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:35
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Ratjaculation posted:If a podcaster says refers to Armatage Shanks as a real person they know I will donate £10 to MSF He's surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny.
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jabby posted:Funniest timeline is still the vote going to a tie, and Bercow's last act as speaker being to vote it down. He has to do the hands on cheeks eyes closed smile face if that happens.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:39
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Ratjaculation posted:If a podcaster says refers to Armatage Shanks as a real person they know I will donate £10 to MSF This reminds me of an old school joke. What two words does your ma see than any other? Armatage Shanks. Height of schoolboy hilarity.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:39
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jabby posted:Funniest timeline is still the vote going to a tie, and Bercow's last act as speaker being to vote it down. Would convention dictate that Bercow votes with the government, or votes for status quo (which I suppose isn’t this deal)?
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Oct 17, 2019 20:40
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If Britain doesn't elect a left-labour govt in the next election we will witness state violence the likes of which hasn't been seen in the UK since gut 19th century, imo
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Oct 17, 2019 20:43
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Halisnacks posted:Would convention dictate that Bercow votes with the government, or votes for status quo (which I suppose isn’t this deal)? Status quo.
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feedmegin posted:Apropos of nothing this also turned up on the US page of the Guardian today (I'm in Baltimore this week!)
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Oct 17, 2019 20:57
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Why is that a bad thing?
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jBrereton posted:At a time when the police will not go near anything brexit related because it's "too political", even when there are definitely specific crimes that have been committed, do you really think they're going to lock up the PM when he says "ah well uh bon mots on Europe are one thing but really we needed the certainty of a deal. We have crossed the Brexit Rubicon. The country's not for turning" or some other tosh? If the Supreme Court tells them to, yes. That's how the law works.
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Oct 17, 2019 21:02
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Why is that a bad thing? quote:But the proposed definition of antisemitism is so wide that, in addition to standard protections against hate speech towards Jews, it would also prohibit debate about the human rights violations of the Israeli government. quote:The emails give a clear indication of the motive behind the push for antisemitism bills – countering criticism of Israel on campuses.
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Oct 17, 2019 21:03
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Why is that a bad thing? As defined by conservatives, "anti-semitism" means criticism of the actions of the government of Israel.
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Oct 17, 2019 21:03
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So it's meaningful vote number four, this time on a worse deal but hoping MPs are bored enough to just vote the loving thing through already. And potentially a smidgeon of no deal is better than a bad deal  if it doesn't pass.Luckily tesco has knocked a fiver off a bottle of Buffalo Trace, taking it back to the pre-Trump trade war price of £18. Two of those should be enough to get me through Saturday. (Yes, the EU tariff on bourbon is pretty much the only Trump related issue that has had a noticeable direct impact on me. Roll on leaving the perfidious euros so we can have a free trade agreement and replace all that horrible 'scotch' with proper booze.) [Actually, last year I picked up a bottle in Spain for loving €13 screw British alcohol duty.]
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Oct 17, 2019 21:06
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jess phillips agrees to vote for boris’ deal as long as he will rename it the jess phillips deal
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Oct 17, 2019 21:18
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i prefer bulleit to buffalo trace but the latter is fine. i'm sad, my local mini asda tried and failed to develop a burbon section and as such there were a bunch that got slashed down in price. i consulted a Kentuckian friend of mine and on his advice bought their entire supply (6 bottles at £10 a pop) of old forester. i've been drinking it for months and am finally down to my last bottle 
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bump_fn posted:jess phillips agrees to vote for boris’ deal as long as he will rename it the jess phillips deal Jess' Real Deal
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Oct 17, 2019 21:23
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Every bourbon I have tried so far has a strong vanilla extract taste, is that by design?
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bump_fn posted:jess phillips agrees to vote for boris’ deal as long as he will rename it the jess phillips deal I've checked her twitter. Because thats how things are done now. All shes got to say is that someone else said she should be in charge and she absolutely agrees. Also an older pinned post about buying her book. How did she get her profile exactly?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I've checked her twitter. Because thats how things are done now. You just answered your own question - her greatest talent is self-promotion.
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Oct 17, 2019 21:39
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Just released video from the Corbmeister in Brussels today. It's on Facebook but I think you can watch without an account. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2524605720938296
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Oct 17, 2019 21:50
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Why is Corbyn in Brussels? Something doesn't seem right about this.
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Oct 17, 2019 21:53
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Luxury Tent Carpet posted:Jess' Real Deal the inspiration for the tesco meal deal
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https://twitter.com/DHolden61/status/1184581472923082753 https://twitter.com/moiness/status/1184817566813970432
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I'm late replying but  at that precise 2 pixel gap
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https://twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/status/1184933943906312192 If this is true, it's an absolutely catastrophic mistake. If Johnson gets his deal though and the Lib Dems are able to blame Brexit on Labour MPs who escape any form of sanction, the election will be a bloodbath.
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