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Fast Luck posted:Feels like we’re in prime over-playing season. Yeah, that's where I'm at. Especially since like Missy had this whole thing about how Dean was threatening the ladies alliance and if they got rid of him she could have her "sorority sisters" back. And then its like "ok, vote out one of my sorority sisters/ladies alliance." Like... ok? I dunno. It seems like a lot of fly by the seat of your pants gaming or a lot of people trying to mastermind poo poo at the same time. Something. And drat that tribe hates Karishma. Like, not "annoyed by" or "I hate that person." But real hate. Like I think they really would let her bleed to death. I can't wait for her to be the swing vote after the swap.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 02:57 |
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Wow that segment with Noura was truly beautiful
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 03:43 |
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Dugong posted:Wow that segment with Noura was truly beautiful It was a thing of art, from IOI all the way through the Immunity Challenge. From the very start with Rob going, "There's no way this person can be the caller" to the team instantly going, "Noura is gonna sit out"
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 04:07 |
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Here is to the Karishma & Noura power alliance.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 04:08 |
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I just wish I could see Noura and Coach on the same island.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 06:06 |
The Noura saga was the funniest thing in years and I want her voted off quickly because I cannot imagine anything will top that. Congratulations. You won the meta game of great TV! Karishma sucks.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 07:16 |
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Odds that either one, or both of Noura and Karishma make F3?
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 10:00 |
Noura maybe but Karishma will flip and not be considered safe to keep around.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 10:39 |
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The sad thing about Chelsea is that if the swap had been done at the usual time (after 3 votes), she would probably have made it pretty far. Decent connections, no real threat level, idol. But hey, that's just how the cookie crumbles. Can't really say she actively did anything too wrong other than getting too chummy with the tribe idiot.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 11:48 |
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Twelve hours later and I can't shake the image of Noura, eyes wide and mouth full of watermelon, staring at Boston Rob while chowing down.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 13:20 |
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Thank god for AEW because if I was watching this live I wouldn't be able to fast forward through all the god awful Noura segments She's going to hang around all season just to spite me Getting unanimously sent to the bench was wonderful though
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 14:03 |
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IcePhoenix posted:Getting unanimously sent to the bench was wonderful though Highlight of the episode
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 14:05 |
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Jeff Probst posted:[Tribe swap is] something we first did in our third season in Africa, and it was met with a lot of controversy. Oh boy, fans hated it. Thought it was soooooooo unfair. Fortunately, Survivor doesn’t have controversial twists anymore, other than when I don’t wear a blue shirt. Other than that, our audience adores everything we do, and they have for many years now! I can’t think of the last time someone complained about a creative idea. lol
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 14:06 |
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:The Noura saga was the funniest thing in years and I want her voted off quickly because I cannot imagine anything will top that. Congratulations. You won the meta game of great TV!
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 14:48 |
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I'd love to know why Elizabeth/Elaine went along with Chelsea given their reactions to the possibility of Dean. Seemed so weird.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 15:01 |
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Lairo has been a mess since the get-go and this was a pretty appropriate culmination of their shittiness. It really does seem like they ended up with a fairly disproportionate number of the game's lightweight players. Elizabeth and Missy are the only two Lairo who seem like they have potential (and even they are falling into the overplaying trap). Maybe Elaine as well but she came out of this episode looking pretty clueless. On the other hand, I could see any of the Vokai aside from Noura going far. Popero posted:I'd love to know why Elizabeth/Elaine went along with Chelsea given their reactions to the possibility of Dean. Seemed so weird. I am tempted to chalk it up to Missy and Aaron being the dominant personalities on the tribe, and people allowing them to dictate the vote accordingly once they hit the Karishma/Dean conundrum. The thing that confuses me the most is why Elizabeth and Elaine were so bullish about getting rid of Dean in the first place. When's the last time tribes -didn't- swap after four boots? Vernacular fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Vernacular posted:The thing that confuses me the most is why Elizabeth and Elaine were so bullish about getting rid of Dean in the first place. When's the last time tribes -didn't- swap after four boots? There have been a few after-two-boots swaps, but the last time a swap was later than 4 was Caramoan, 13 seasons ago.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 17:05 |
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It's crazy that the "Women's Alliance" of 6 (Women + Vince) has now been wittled down to 4. I'm really happy with aggressive gameplay and I thought Missy's "Throw out a name" conversation with Elaine was really good.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 18:53 |
This is a really baffling quote. Maybe Jeff has a bunch of ex-whitehouse interns in charge of delivering him public feedback.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 19:44 |
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Fast Luck posted:That was hilarious, and even better that they didn’t show us any of the planning. Just hit us with it like they did with Noura. Ironically there’s a good chance it saved Noura too while the vote blocker she was trying to win wouldn’t have.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 20:39 |
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Khanstant posted:This is a really baffling quote. Maybe Jeff has a bunch of ex-whitehouse interns in charge of delivering him public feedback. It's a joke. He's using "irony", the literary device in which you say something but mean its opposite.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 20:43 |
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Binary Logic posted:Boston Rob's offer was ridiculous. Noura had to get her tribe to make her the caller and then LOSE for her to be able to use the advantage. But if they lost she'd be an easy boot and blocking one person's vote wouldn't save her. I think he's actively trying to get people to not take the first offer so they can learn the lesson about negotiating but it's not going so well.
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 20:43 |
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^^ super agree ^^Binary Logic posted:Boston Rob's offer was ridiculous. Noura had to get her tribe to make her the caller and then LOSE for her to be able to use the advantage. But if they lost she'd be an easy boot and blocking one person's vote wouldn't save her. it's still not crystal clear to me whether the reward/penalty is at THE next X tribal council(s) (so irrelevant if your tribe wins immunity) or YOUR next X tribal council(s) I feel like its the former but I'm not 100% sure
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 21:19 |
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Binary Logic posted:Boston Rob's offer was ridiculous. Noura had to get her tribe to make her the caller and then LOSE for her to be able to use the advantage. But if they lost she'd be an easy boot and blocking one person's vote wouldn't save her. This is the thing that hasn't been to clear with the season. But I am pretty sure that the advantages are good for the individuals # of tribal councils and not just the # of tribal councils. Also, the lesson was on persuasion and yet Noura made no attempt to get a better deal...
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# ? Oct 17, 2019 21:19 |
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Read through Chelsea's post-press and she's just as baffled by the move as most people watching the episode is. I do kinda feel bad for her, she'd been applying for six years and taken out by a move that doesn't make a lot of sense on paper. I don't think she's memorable enough to come back for a second shot, but who knows, production has done weirder things before.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 00:34 |
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Honestly, the showmance thing felt a tad overblown to me too. Like, ok. Two pretty people flirting and sleeping next to each other just defaults to "showmance" no matter what happens and the only solution if you're young and pretty would probably be desperately avoiding all the other pretty people or to scar yourself or something. But if that was the most damaging TV evidence they had of a showmance the tribe definitely jumped on that quick. It really just reminded me of last week's whole "we have control with the girls alliance, so lets split the votes and risk sending home one of our girls" thing. "Lets get out the dude so the showmance doesn't mess with our girls' alliance, ok just vote out the girl then." There's some conflicting agendas here.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 00:49 |
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Should have been an easy Karishma vote with Missy possibility if she would keep being difficult about it.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 01:00 |
Pinterest Mom posted:It's a joke. He's using "irony", the literary device in which you say something but mean its opposite. Where I come from, that is called lying and liars get a paddlin
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 01:30 |
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STAC Goat posted:Honestly, the showmance thing felt a tad overblown to me too. Like, ok. Two pretty people flirting and sleeping next to each other just defaults to "showmance" no matter what happens and the only solution if you're young and pretty would probably be desperately avoiding all the other pretty people or to scar yourself or something. But if that was the most damaging TV evidence they had of a showmance the tribe definitely jumped on that quick. Chelsea seemed to rationalize it as the 'take out Vince because nobody is gonna feel bad about it' vote. Keeping tribe unity right before a swap seems to be a good idea, and if you knock out Karishma then you have a very slim chance of the boys teaming up to tie it up. But yeah, there's absolutely no reason not to kick out Karishma at that point. She's a deserter waiting to happen and the girls already have the majority even without her.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 01:58 |
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STAC Goat posted:Honestly, the showmance thing felt a tad overblown to me too. Like, ok. Two pretty people flirting and sleeping next to each other just defaults to "showmance" no matter what happens and the only solution if you're young and pretty would probably be desperately avoiding all the other pretty people or to scar yourself or something. But if that was the most damaging TV evidence they had of a showmance the tribe definitely jumped on that quick. I’m just speculating here but I think Elaine is playing a really smart game and is really dangerous and was probably the actual driving force behind that boot. The whole showmance thing (on air, at least) started because Elaine loudly started yelling about what a cute couple they were and really seemed to be pushing it, then does her whole “Aww gee shucks golly what’s going on this is so weird!!!” routine after talking about their relationship to everyone while happily writing down Chelsea’s name.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 02:04 |
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I get the moves in a vacuum. Both are basically "ok, do what is easiest and keeps my name off everyone's lips." Its just that there's a lot of deeper game strategy being talked about but not a lot of it actually being executed. 'cause, yeah. If you were willing to risk Karishma last week in the name of tribal unity why vote out an ally you seemed to trust more to keep her as a goat/pawn? Maybe its just one or two messy wannabe masterminds talking big and distorting things. This whole thing could have just been Missy overplaying on her own.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 02:05 |
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There are some decent players on Lairo - Elizabeth is doing the middleperson role really well as far as we can tell, and Missy seems to be pretty eloquent; she must have been able to do SOMETHING to swing Elizabeth and Elaine. The problem is that this move made very little sense other than 'we can't just make an easy move all the time!' with no long-term planning. Missy is really going to need to do a lot of damage control with Dean.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 02:09 |
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Everyone just wants to blindside every tribal and as long as they keep doing these early tribe swaps and merges there isn’t much reason to try to keep a strong and loyal tribe.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 02:26 |
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ApplesandOranges posted:Read through Chelsea's post-press and she's just as baffled by the move as most people watching the episode is. If they brought back Hali Ford and Sierra Dawn Thomas, Chelsea has a pretty decent shot
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 03:24 |
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The editors are really trying to pull the rug out from under the audience this season, all the strategizing they show at camp gets reversed at the vote, they shows us everyone disagreeing with Aaron and Missy's plan, and then out of the blue everyone is suddenly on board with it at the vote. Maybe I've gotten too used to Australian survivor where you can actually work out who is going based on what is shown.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 04:32 |
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I don't think that's really the issue here, though. Its not that people are surprised by how the vote went, its that Missy's strategy went from "vote out Brett to get back my sorority sister" to "vote out my sorority sister" all because for some reason she decided the easy vote she betrayed last vote was a valuable goat. Which might just be Missy's thing. Maybe the rest of the tribe just wanted to break up the showmance and Missy distracted us trying to badly puppet master things.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 04:54 |
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STAC Goat posted:I don't think that's really the issue here, though. Its not that people are surprised by how the vote went, its that Missy's strategy went from "vote out Brett to get back my sorority sister" to "vote out my sorority sister" all because for some reason she decided the easy vote she betrayed last vote was a valuable goat. His name might as well be "Brett" tbh
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 05:22 |
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I don't know no one's name this season except Rob and Sandra. The rest is all guessing by context clues.
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# ? Oct 18, 2019 05:32 |
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STAC Goat posted:I don't know no one's name this season except Rob and Sandra Sandra account spotted
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Regarding Season 40: I’ve seen a few posts flying around various networks published by users saying they have ‘bad feelings’ about a player. The posts seem very similar to the ones floating around about Ciera before Game Changers aired so proceed with caution if you’re avoiding spoilers.
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