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Looking forward to not watching the incredibly lovely looking film about Fox News from the director of Meet The Fockers. Reminds me of another pile of poo poo from last year, Vice, a film that gave a pass to a war criminal.
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the movie looks like crap but its gross people are using it as an excuse to post with no restriction the same exact language people used to minimized any sort of sexual assault
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Oct 17, 2019 05:44
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I too look forward to micro analyzing and judging everything about this movie without ever having seen it, just like all of the people that said Joker was going to humanize and make a hero out of incels.
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Oct 17, 2019 06:35
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Looking forward to not watching the incredibly lovely looking film about Fox News from the director of Meet The Fockers. Yeah, directors should stick to one thing and one thing only. Shut up.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:37
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Jewmanji posted:How dare Hollywood make a movie depicting the creator of Fox News as a completely ruthless and amoral piece of poo poo. And how dare they try to humanize victims of sexual harassment and assault! Do you have any idea how much white supremacist & reactionary bullshit Megyn Kelly has peddled throughout the years, and the far-right views she still holds? And I never said anything about Fox News employees deserving to raped, you moron. And if you don’t see a problem with an actress winning an Oscar for portraying a prime-time Fox News host, then I don’t know what to tell you. But I look forward to Megyn Kelly on the film’s press tour promoting right-wing bullshit on the side.
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Oct 17, 2019 16:59
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tylersayten posted:And if you don’t see a problem with an actress winning an Oscar for portraying a prime-time Fox News host, then I don’t know what to tell you. I... legitimately don't see the problem here. Is it because Fox News and Megyn Kelly are still around?
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Oct 17, 2019 17:08
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tylersayten posted:And if you don’t see a problem with an actress winning an Oscar for portraying a prime-time Fox News host, then I don’t know what to tell you. What's your take on Forest Whitaker
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Oct 17, 2019 17:49
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Portrayal is endorsement, which is why I now love Hitler.
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Oct 17, 2019 17:58
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Women who were sexually harassed and assaulted don’t deserve to be humanized is a wild stance lol They were still victims and it looks like they’re still shown as bad people
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Oct 17, 2019 18:54
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the_american_dream posted:Women who were sexually harassed and assaulted don’t deserve to be humanized is a wild stance lol You're being willfully obstinate. Literally nobody said anything like this.
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Oct 17, 2019 19:11
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feedmyleg posted:You're being willfully obstinate. Literally nobody said anything like this. kanonvandekempen posted:'These women were so desperate to get to a position where they can personally profit from creating racial hatred that they were willing to suck an old man's cock to get there.' is not really a pitch that makes me interested into seeing this movie I think. What does this mean to you?
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Oct 17, 2019 19:16
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the_american_dream posted:Women who were sexually harassed and assaulted don’t deserve to be humanized that's really hosed up dude
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Oct 17, 2019 19:25
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Jewmanji posted:What does this mean to you? "I'm not sympathizing with Magda Goebbels just because her husband shot her." Byzantine fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Oct 17, 2019 19:26
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What the gently caress is wrong with you people? Like jesus, I do feel like from what I seen from the trailer that the portrayal of this, feels uncomfortable, but that isn't an excuse to start using every cliche in the "douche's guide to minimizing sexual violence" playbook Like, there are reasons to believe this movie is not handling this the best way it could, that isn't an excuse to start joking about this like a jock on campus with a recent news story about an assault that happened. Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Oct 17, 2019 19:43
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Byzantine posted:"I'm not sympathizing with Magda Goebbels just because her husband shot her." Just looked this person up because I didn’t know anything about her. Apparently she murdered her six children and then killed herself. Can you choose a different analogy that might serve your point better?
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Oct 17, 2019 19:44
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Dude, they're saying these people aren't sympathetic because they're bad people on a foundational level. That they also had something horrible happen to them doesn't mean that they suddenly become sympathetic. Nobody is okay with them being sexually harassed/assaulted, they're just saying just because they were it doesn't suddenly make them sympathetic figures. I can sympathize with that part of their lives without sympathizing with them as an overall person.
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Oct 17, 2019 19:51
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feedmyleg posted:Nobody is okay with them being sexually harassed/assaulted, they're just saying just because they were it doesn't suddenly make them sympathetic figures. And the best way to do that is with crass jokes made around sexual assault, huh?
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Oct 17, 2019 19:55
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How hard is it to say "this women are just kinda lovely people, I hope the movie also address that as well" instead of loving bullshit like this:Ariza posted:Even if they're just scared little ladies Or like this kanonvandekempen posted:that they were willing to suck an old man's cock to get there Or people doing this Peanut President posted:that's really hosed up dude Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Oct 17, 2019 19:59
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feedmyleg posted:I can sympathize with that part of their lives without sympathizing with them as an overall person. That’s all anyone is asking of you.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:07
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Looking forward to not watching the incredibly lovely looking film about Fox News from the director of Meet The Fockers. Uhh, Vice didn’t give a pass to a war criminal. They literally have the narrator be a vet who was killed and whose heart is transplanted to save Dick Cheney’s life. It isn’t subtle. There’s a full scene about pushing for torture and water boarding. Wtf are you even on about? https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/feb/08/vice-what-movie-gets-right-and-wrong/ Unless you mean that it makes Cheney the big bad and GWB a pawn, but that’s not the case either. I’m not going to defend bombshell because I haven’t seen it, but considering how wrong your assumptions are about Vice, maybe reflect on that a bit? I mean, Adam McKay made The Big Short, he doesn’t give monsters passes. Even the heroes of that film were still shown as being pretty bad by taking advantage of the situation.
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Oct 17, 2019 20:54
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Bearded Whiteguy posted:Uhh, Vice didn’t give a pass to a war criminal. They literally have the narrator be a vet who was killed and whose heart is transplanted to save Dick Cheney’s life. It isn’t subtle. You're right, it isn't subtle. It absolutely gave a pass to Cheney. The final word is given to Bale who addresses the audience and says, in a most pragmatic tone: I did what I had to do, it wasn't pretty, but I did it for your freedom
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Oct 17, 2019 23:56
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The point is that the line is bullshit. It's a lie. Maybe it's a lie Cheney is telling us, or maybe it's one he's telling himself, but it's a lie.
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Oct 18, 2019 00:24
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:You're right, it isn't subtle. It absolutely gave a pass to Cheney. Are you that loving stupid? Seriously.
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Oct 18, 2019 00:32
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Patrick Spens posted:The point is that the line is bullshit. It's a lie. Maybe it's a lie Cheney is telling us, or maybe it's one he's telling himself, but it's a lie. It's a lie that a lot of people buy.
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Oct 18, 2019 00:52
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:You're right, it isn't subtle. It absolutely gave a pass to Cheney. Hahaha come on Like, the only thing that comes even close to giving Cheney a positive aspect is his relationship with the daughter, but they even show that to be bullshit by the end. The movie couldn't possibly hate him any more than it does.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:It's a lie that a lot of people buy. What if u didn’t watch things assuming u r the smartest one
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Oct 18, 2019 00:59
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LesterGroans posted:Hahaha come on The movie doesn't have to like him in order to give him a pass. The infernal doctrine of the Bush/Cheney years was predicated on the idea that you have to get dirty, violate law, and commit a little torture in order to effect a greater, undefinable good (in this case, and most other cases, the proliferation of market capitalism). They sold this idea far and wide and the news media was more than happy to go along for the ride. Guantanamo will never close. People still travel around making the case that drone bombing civilians and waterboarding people in indefinite detention leads to abstract gains in the GWOT or the unending 50+ year war on drugs. Are people really going to try and make the case on this dead gay forum that VICE is holding anyone's feet to the coals? It gave him AND them a pass.
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Oct 18, 2019 01:16
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New trailer for Steven Soderbergh's Netflix Panama Papers scandal movie The Laundromat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzRGVoNDA9g
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Oct 18, 2019 02:03
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The MSJ posted:New trailer for Steven Soderbergh's Netflix Panama Papers scandal movie The Laundromat. Don't see Sharon Stone all that often these days.
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Oct 18, 2019 02:07
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Reviews for it haven’t been great at all, a shame as his stuff always interests me.
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Oct 18, 2019 02:20
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Looking forward to not watching the incredibly lovely looking film about Fox News from the director of Meet The Fockers. vice is absolutely damning to everyone involved
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Oct 18, 2019 02:49
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i seee that this subject has been covered......but i still feel that i have to point out that bales line at the end is clearly intended to be ironic and the movie spends a lot of time showing you that he cares about nothing but power.
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scary ghost dog posted:i seee that this subject has been covered......but i still feel that i have to point out that bales line at the end is clearly intended to be ironic and the movie spends a lot of time showing you that he cares about nothing but power.
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Oct 18, 2019 03:06
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scary ghost dog posted:i seee that this subject has been covered......but i still feel that i have to point out that bales line at the end is clearly intended to be ironic and the movie spends a lot of time showing you that he cares about nothing but power. Throughout like 90 percent of the movie, Cheney has one redeeming quality, and that's his support for his daughter. And then he throws her under the bus so her sister can gain a few points in her race for a senate seat. But yeah, the movie is definitely shilling for him.
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Oct 18, 2019 03:55
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It seems that some people have trouble understanding irony, let alone the concept of an unreliable narrator.
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Oct 18, 2019 04:04
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Dillbag posted:It seems that some people have trouble understanding irony, let alone the concept of an unreliable narrator. It's Cinema Sins level comprehension, but in this case, comes with a side order of pretension.
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Oct 18, 2019 05:20
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Vice is shallow, incoherent, and maddeningly glib; the topic (and the deceased) deserve a better effort if one is to be made at all. To claim that it's somehow representative of competent satire is disingenuous, at best. gently caress that movie and the people who shill for it for no other reason than to gain internet prestige.
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Oct 18, 2019 06:38
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Dillbag posted:It seems that some people have trouble understanding irony, let alone the concept of an unreliable narrator. I'm not even sure if the people posting in favor of this film have even agreed who the narrator is. Who is the narrator in your opinion, Dillbag? BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Oct 18, 2019 06:52
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Vagabundo posted:It's Cinema Sins level comprehension, but in this case, comes with a side order of pretension. I don't watch that particular youtube timeslot, and I never claimed I wasn't pretentious. This is CineD we're talking about. 
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Marriage Story looking extremely good; Squid and the Whale callbacks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XTlfPKBIOM
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