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James Baud posted:Are they that unreliable? this is for the last 90 days. there have been multiple global outages in the last year alone. explaining that you can't use the computers or email for the indeterminate future because microsoft broke their own DNS for the fourth time this year is not something clients appreciate
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graph posted:stupid question, are all the services that run on it fine? just can't get to the admin panel or w/e ? it depends on the outage, but in the major cases it prevents any login at all as far as i can tell, because the authentication services themselves are unavailable
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infernal machines posted:this is for the last 90 days. There doesn't appear to be anything MFA-related in the past 90 days, and possibly just that one really bad landing that affected them a few weeks in a row last year?
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infernal machines posted:AD integrated TOTP and paswordless auth using microsoft authenticator it would be nice to have geographic login restrictions for remote access and mail too, without having to hack up some kludge with scoping based on geo-ip databases
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James Baud posted:There doesn't appear to be anything MFA-related in the past 90 days, and possibly just that one really bad landing that affected them a few weeks in a row last year? well, except for the thing happening right now, i guess https://www.zdnet.com/article/multifactor-authentication-issue-hitting-north-american-azure-office-365-users/ i said multiple global outages this year, but i may have been mistaken or my google-fu is weak. i seem to remember an outage over the summer as well at least
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infernal machines posted:well, except for the thing happening right now, i guess I did think it was odd that you were talking about it and then linked a story from 11 months ago, so fair enough.
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James Baud posted:There doesn't appear to be anything MFA-related in the past 90 days, and possibly just that one really bad landing that affected them a few weeks in a row last year? companies love paying for one 9 of uptime
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how do they not have any loving redundancy in that service? how are they letting the whole thing shut down? this is inexcusable. anyone who uses that service is probably a loving idiot or they aren't in charge of anything of any importance.
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the one big outage, and some other o365 outages over the past few years have been attributed to MS breaking their own DNS. turns out regional/global redundancy doesn't work well if your poo poo won't resolve
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Oct 18, 2019 18:07
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microsoft should use route 53 for their dns
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Oct 18, 2019 18:09
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Does Microsoft use any third party hosting for redundancy like Apple? Azure has had zero globally redundant services for so long, I presume microsoft.com and others don't even use it.
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MrMoo posted:Does Microsoft use any third party hosting for redundancy like Apple? i think you either underestimate the size of azure or just what it is? you need to be able to be your own redundancy if you have the rather huge chunk of the market microsoft has, starting to rent poo poo from the only real competitor would be pretty weird.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-multi-factor-authentication-service-goes-down-for-second-week-in-a-row/ microsoft branding strikes again [img microsoft-office-352]
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Oct 18, 2019 18:46
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MrMoo posted:Does Microsoft use any third party hosting for redundancy like Apple? iirc apple uses azure
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MrMoo posted:Azure has had zero globally redundant services for so long lol no
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they absolutely have global and regional redundancy, it's just that the things that break sometimes mean the redundancy fails too
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it's almost like it was set up by a company desperately struggling to remain relevant while the rest of the world with smarter engineers passes them by
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also i believe that majority of their problems are probably caused by actually serving this poo poo on windows servers (lol)
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Oct 18, 2019 19:18
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:it's almost like it was set up by a company desperately struggling to remain relevant while the rest of the world with smarter engineers passes them by this is a really uphill sort of troll position to take about the largest company in the world though i guess strictly speaking that does mean that others passing them by is the only possible change that can happen.
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lol by what metric do you consider microsoft "the largest company in the world" ?
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market cap, but true it has fallen back to second again this quarter either way, they are up 140% the last 3 years, to no small part due to azure growth. i don't particularly imagine azure is great, but the market success is pretty clear-cut Cybernetic Vermin fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:this is a really uphill sort of troll position to take about the largest company in the world yeah microsoft trolls are really completely irrational about apple smh
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infernal machines posted:they absolutely have global and regional redundancy, it's just that the things that break sometimes mean the redundancy fails too They had nothing compared to Route 53 for a long time, only intra-Region redundancy: you can create a load-balancer but it only balances in that region. So if the region hosting the load-balancer dies your redundancy dies. They probably still allow you to create such stupid deployments. Azure DNS only launched in 2016, whilst Route 53 launched in 2010.
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azure mfa is really good aside from the outages because the larger azure ad product is great.
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Oct 18, 2019 19:58
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pram posted:yeah microsoft trolls are really completely irrational about apple smh haha, i will admit to not being entirely up to date, but they flipped *today*. up to yesterday microsoft was larger apple makes way more money still though, so that comparison is a lot iffier than e.g. worrying about other cloud providers
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:microsoft should use route 53 for their dns route 53 has a really dumb api and an even worse gui but at least the service itself is good
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works fine with terraform
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:it's almost like it was set up by a company desperately struggling to remain relevant while the rest of the world with smarter engineers passes them by struggling? have you looked at their numbers? microsoft is doing very, very well for themselves. growth is good, margins are high, dividends are amazing microsoft-the-consumer-brand is poo poo, and always will be poo poo, but fortunately for shareholders that does not matter at all, because that is not how microsoft makes money
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microsoft is making lots of money. they're either 1 or 2 in marketcap right now and have been for years. we laugh at a lot of poo poo they do, because it's halfassed poo poo, but it's pretty much the only name in the game and is making money hand over fist. everyone has an office 365 subscription. everyone is using windows and typing poo poo in word and crunching numbers in excel. microsoft is one of the few stocks that has actually really gained in value over the lifetime of the company. there are only a few hundred companies ever that are responsible for the overwhelming majority of the stock market's gain since 1926. if you don't hold microsoft stock as a part of your portfolio, you're loving up.
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bluuuuuue chiiiiip
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brap posted:so far i have discovered 2 ways to deploy to azure app service. you can either: i concur this is my experience with azure also if you use basically anything other than c# then their tooling is less than favorable. The documentation is also all over the place. Can I or can't i use python for lambdas? Last I checked I could but also couldn't depending on where i looked
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y would you use something other than c#?
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why would you use anything other than c
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C# is not the only language you really should get to writing that book shaggar.
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Boiled Water posted:i concur this is my experience with azure all of their documentation is like this for o365/azure major caveats and restrictions aren't mentioned anywhere in the service docs or implementation guides, but sometimes the team that launched the service will have a little two line blurb in their blog from six months ago.
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Shaggar posted:y would you use something other than c#? because f# exists
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Boiled Water posted:C# is not the only language yeah but you shouldn't actually use those other ones
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Visual J++
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Shaggar posted:yeah but you shouldn't actually use those other ones lol
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Sniep posted:Visual J++
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