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TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter




I was starting to get upset no one made that connection as I was scrolling through.

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bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe

chitoryu12 posted:

Assume all technology is the same, but the Henry guys fight with modern tactics suited to their weapons.

It'd be really hard for modern army to mass enough firepower to do anything significant if all they have are henry rifles and other period equipment. They'd probably generate more casualties but without a bunch of modern systems there isn't much different they could do tactically.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

SlothfulCobra posted:

10 is technically true from the way that much of the modern patriarchal system that feminism is a response to hadn't been developed or alternatively, hadn't penetrated anywhere near the lowest strata of society.
there is no organized system of thought called feminism but there sure are women who are willing to advance their own interests against this dude

zoux
Apr 28, 2006


People really sleep on smallpox eradication when they think of "greatest human accomplishments." gently caress the Pyramids.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

TK-42-1 posted:

I was starting to get upset no one made that connection as I was scrolling through.
o no

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


HEY GUNS posted:

there is no organized system of thought called feminism but there sure are women who are willing to advance their own interests against this dude

I wanna smash him over the head and steal his buttons to sell in the next town over for a pint of watered down beer.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

LingcodKilla posted:

I wanna smash him over the head and steal his buttons to sell in the next town over for a pint of watered down beer.
pretty sure a large central european woman who has spent her entire life up to this point doing farm work would be fully capable of taking his lunch money

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


The Lone Badger posted:

Who was the first army to start issuing every common infantryman with a magnifying optic on their rifle?

Without having checked what every European military was using during the cold war, it was likely the Austrians, who would have integrated the original Steyr AUGs by the end of the 70s.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

zoux posted:

People really sleep on smallpox eradication when they think of "greatest human accomplishments." gently caress the Pyramids.
i am a huge fan of running water and the farm/transportation food network. We can feed more people for cheaper than before and we don't even think about it.

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


Also carrying away that water when we've used it, and staying up after dark for virtually no lighting cost.

Mr Enderby
Mar 28, 2015


I try to think charitably about everyone, but I'd loving love to see the way medieval peasants would skin this hapless nerd alive.

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



These are the same dipshits that say 'Oh but yet you're posting a phone made by capitalists' every time someone mentions socialism. Their heads are denser than their avatars.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

All these "we need to get back to our primitive ways" dudes have woefully terrible understandings of history while simultaneously believing that they'd badass their way into a knighthood or some poo poo.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Jaguars! posted:

Also carrying away that water when we've used it, and staying up after dark for virtually no lighting cost.
Light/cost is a classic economics graph for a reason

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

zoux posted:

All these "we need to get back to our primitive ways" dudes have woefully terrible understandings of history while simultaneously believing that they'd badass their way into a knighthood or some poo poo.

don't call yourself a traditionalist unless you have at least two degrees

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I'd never heard of the story of Gilbert Bates.

I'm kind of surprised that he could march through the South in 1868 carrying the US flag unmolested and in fact treated quite cordially. Was there a desire among Southerners post war to be seen as loyal Americans again? What was the sentiment in the South towards the US in the 10 or so years after the war.

Also, why were the Brits so hype about him

Mr Enderby
Mar 28, 2015

zoux posted:

All these "we need to get back to our primitive ways" dudes have woefully terrible understandings of history while simultaneously believing that they'd badass their way into a knighthood or some poo poo.

Yeah, I went and looked at his twitter and the guy is just as thick as mince, so it doesn't even feel worthwhile to attack him anymore.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Want to try that bread though.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

TK-42-1 posted:

I was starting to get upset no one made that connection as I was scrolling through.

Was genuinely unsure if it was too obvious to mention

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

phasing in isn't the same thing as every rifleman with a magnifying optic, though

Yeah.

Some of them have broom handles painted black.

Randomcheese3
Sep 6, 2011

"It's like no cheese I've ever tasted."

Gort posted:

Huh? What about armoured cruisers?

I was mostly discussing interwar cruisers, which were not expected to fight larger ships. The heyday of the armoured cruiser was 20 years earlier, and, under the paradigm in place then, having fewer, larger guns was superior, hence why you get ships with 2-4 9.2in guns. Sorry for not being clearer about what I was talking about.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Fangz posted:

Surely they had less sex before effective contraception because of the risk of having way too many babies?

If anything they probably had more but it evens out because "whoops the baby fell in the pig stye again"

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I don't think that medieval parents lacked the same capacity for love that modern ones do, but also I don't see how you can live in a world where 30-50% of children die and not have your emotional affect reduced. What do we know about parent/child relationships in the era?

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



zoux posted:

I don't think that medieval parents lacked the same capacity for love that modern ones do, but also I don't see how you can live in a world where 30-50% of children die and not have your emotional affect reduced. What do we know about parent/child relationships in the era?

Was there really a thing where they wouldn’t name babies until X months/years old? It seems like a myth born out of modern perceptions.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

TK-42-1 posted:

Was there really a thing where they wouldn’t name babies until X months/years old? It seems like a myth born out of modern perceptions.

Well, some Jewish traditions don't reveal the name of a newborn son until a week (so as not to reveal the name to the Angel of Death before the bris) so I know the custom at least exists.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

zoux posted:



drat being a feudal serf sounds dope! Unless some of these things aren't true.

I take it 'tithes' isn't a word this chap has heard of. Or 'corvee'.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

HEY GUNS posted:

pretty sure a large central european woman who has spent her entire life up to this point doing farm work would be fully capable of taking his lunch money

If we ever do some sort of weird time travel or incredibly detailed simulation I would honestly be down for a reality show where these guys get pasted by the reality of the eras they romanticize.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

LingcodKilla posted:

I wanna smash him over the head and steal his buttons to sell in the next town over for a pint of watered down beer.

Good way to get lost IMO.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Neat! They found the wreck of Kaga, one of the Japanese carriers at Midway.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

zoux posted:

Well, some Jewish traditions don't reveal the name of a newborn son until a week (so as not to reveal the name to the Angel of Death before the bris) so I know the custom at least exists.

Interesting, but this can cause problems if they don't reveal the name to the Social Security Administration.

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



SeanBeansShako posted:

If we ever do some sort of weird time travel or incredibly detailed simulation I would honestly be down for a reality show where these guys get pasted by the reality of the eras they romanticize.

it’d be cool to see them get ridden over by a knight in a hurry and the last thing they see is a coin flipped onto their face as a sorry.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
'I want to be a knight!'

'What are your qualifications?'

'Well I am whit-'

*mace to face*

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



bewbies posted:

everyone knows napoleon was just a compiler

Forgive me, but I had to figure out the rate stats. Top 10 qualified generals of all time, according to random dude's Wikipedia algorithm:

1. Georgy Zhukov (0.46 WAR/battle)
2. Alexander the Great* (0.438 WAR/battle)
3. Julius Caesar (0.433 WAR/battle)
4. Khalid ibn Walid (0.402 WAR/battle)
5. Wellington (0.396 WAR/battle)
6. Napoleon (0.388 WAR/battle)
7. Oda Nobunaga (0.384 WAR/battle)
8. Takeda Shingen (0.338 WAR/battle)
9. Augustus* (0.338 WAR/battle)
10. Frederick the Great (0.333 WAR/battle)

Other than how obviously silly it is to objectively rank generals from a timespan as broad as 221 BCE to 1956 CE, the list itself is not bad.

*Didn't meet my arbitary cutoff of 10 battles notable enough to get a Wikipedia article, so I took their total WAR and divided by 10.

Chamale fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Oct 19, 2019

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

zoux posted:

I don't think that medieval parents lacked the same capacity for love that modern ones do, but also I don't see how you can live in a world where 30-50% of children die and not have your emotional affect reduced. What do we know about parent/child relationships in the era?

A lot depended on social class. But I'm not sure about your first sentence. I mean, not to get too personal, but half of my grandparents' kids died in childhood and a quarter of my parents' kids did, and I don't think either my parents or grandparents lacked emotional affect.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

I'm sure they felt bad about it, but when all of your neighbors also lost a kid to <medieval OSHA poo poo> it's a lot easier to carry on because you're not the weird couple who lost a kid early.

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Chamale posted:

Forgive me, but I had to figure out the rate stats. Top 10 qualified generals of all time, according to random dude's Wikipedia algorithm:

1. Georgy Zhukov (0.46 WAR/battle)
2. Alexander the Great* (0.438 WAR/battle)
3. Julius Caesar (0.433 WAR/battle)
4. Khalid ibn Walid (0.402 WAR/battle)
5. Wellington (0.396 WAR/battle)
6. Napoleon (0.388 WAR/battle)
7. Oda Nobunaga (0.384 WAR/battle)
8. Takeda Shingen (0.338 WAR/battle)
9. Augustus* (0.338 WAR/battle)
10. Frederick the Great (0.333 WAR/battle)

Other than how obviously silly it is to objectively rank generals from a timespan as broad as 221 BCE to 1956 CE, the list itself is not bad.

*Didn't meet my arbitary cutoff of 10 battles notable enough to get a Wikipedia article, so I took their total WAR and divided by 10.

Wellington beating out Napoleon! I will duel this vile man for even suggesting it.





For the past few months I've been eating sour rye bread due to stomach issues and I'm not sick of it at all. Medieval food is pretty good, it's just that Medieval people didn't have enough of it. The web of mechanized agriculture that leads to doritos production is impressive and cheap, but pretty much a nutritional dead end.

The real problem with the roman bust guys is that they're pathologically self-obsessed and ignorant. Can't do anything right when you're a ball of frustration and poorly-disguised self-loathing.

Slim Jim Pickens fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Oct 19, 2019

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Allen’s group found the Hornet a little while ago, and deep cold water is magic. The tugs lashed to the deck look like you could flush the engines, put gas in them, and start them right up.



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Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Chamale posted:


1. Georgy Zhukov (0.46 WAR/battle)

someone should do only world war ii with that formula and see how it shakes out

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

HEY GUNS posted:

imagining a formation of them trundling across the plains and i...i kinda like it

It loving owns is what it does.

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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

zoux posted:

People really sleep on smallpox eradication when they think of "greatest human accomplishments." gently caress the Pyramids.

At the rate we're going, Smallpox will be back before the pyramids get eroded into dust. Checkmate, smallpox.

(I consider vaccinations and antibiotics legitimate medical miracles in a way that rare and difficult surgeries don't even come close to comparing)

zoux posted:

All these "we need to get back to our primitive ways" dudes have woefully terrible understandings of history while simultaneously believing that they'd badass their way into a knighthood or some poo poo.

They're invariably the nerdiest nerds who ever nerded it up. Same way the "zombie apocalypse" geeks are 5 foot even and 400 pounds yet think they're gonna rule the wasteland. It's keyboard commando poo poo

Phanatic posted:

Want to try that bread though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga5JrN9DrVI

Phanatic posted:

Allen’s group found the Hornet a little while ago, and deep cold water is magic. The tugs lashed to the deck look like you could flush the engines, put gas in them, and start them right up.



That's amazing and a gorgeous picture.

Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Oct 19, 2019

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