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Skex posted:How do you think that you can tell anyone how to lead when you can't even explain what it is that you are advocating for. I've said this years ago. Prester Jane is an extremist and as such, whatever answer that you get will be extreme. Best to not engage.
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https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1185252561017815040 e - tax https://twitter.com/WboolPenguins/status/1184326357871759363 Bugsy fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Oct 19, 2019 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Trump has never worked a day in his life. You could also say: "Being President is, by far, the hardest Donald Trump has ever had to work in his life." But the most pathetic part is that both statements can be 100% true.
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TulliusCicero posted:It's almost like someone hit a nerve... One thing I will say, "queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of rot" is a pretty drat cool title. I can only hope to inspire such poetic ire in whatever enemies I may face in my life. Otteration posted:It's friday, Friday, FRIDAY! LET'S GET READY TO (pay taxes and) RUMBLE! I am ready to debate this fearsome foe! 
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Dammerung posted:One thing I will say, "queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of rot" is a pretty drat cool title. I can only hope to inspire such poetic ire in whatever enemies I may face in my life. Yeah no I'll give Tulsi or her intern props, that return salvo hit a lot of soft spots on the old Hildawg That kitten should run for President
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Those look like Great Pyrenees. Those dogs are great. I guess someone was like "these dogs are great for protecting my cattle and livestock, imma put them with these penguins"
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pkay posted:I've said this years ago. Prester Jane is an extremist and as such, whatever answer that you get will be extreme. Best to not engage. You're right, I do see the same people giving warnings about PJ all the time. Probably something important there.
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TulliusCicero posted:Yeah no I'll give Tulsi or her intern props, that return salvo hit a lot of soft spots on the old Hildawg It kinda seems like she had it ready to go for a little while. Admittedly, I'm really not fond of Congresswoman Gabbard upon learning what I did in this thread, but I don't hate her and can admit that I liked that salvo as well! pkay posted:Those look like Great Pyrenees. Those dogs are great. I guess someone was like "these dogs are great for protecting my cattle and livestock, imma put them with these penguins" If it works, it works! I'm sure they were wonderful companions to their avian friends.
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TulliusCicero posted:Yeah no I'll give Tulsi or her intern props, that return salvo hit a lot of soft spots on the old Hildawg Crazy thing about that title is all of those are literally Kremlin talking points in regards to Hillary. Insert the "we came, we saw, he died" clip for posterity. Also, maybe a pizza reference for good measure.
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pkay posted:Those look like Great Pyrenees. Those dogs are great. I guess someone was like "these dogs are great for protecting my cattle and livestock, imma put them with these penguins" There's an entire movie about it. Filmed on location too.
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Dammerung posted:It kinda seems like she had it ready to go for a little while. Admittedly, I'm really not fond of Congresswoman Gabbard upon learning what I did in this thread, but I don't hate her and can admit that I liked that salvo as well! I know that she has abhorrent views on a lot of issues and she is a staunch isolationist nationalist, and also people trying to defend her as a "Leftist" in this thread lmao what the gently caress She would be considered a Republican in line with Rand Paul if she wasn't in Hawaii Personally her and Hillary can sink each other's terrible battleships all day for all I loving care TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Oct 19, 2019 |
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evilweasel posted:So there's a lot in here to unpack. First, I tend to defend Pelosi because she's incredibly, incredibly good at what her job actually is. Her job is that internal parliamentary stuff: collect 218 votes and keep them, and do the best she can with those 218 votes. Being good at that isn't all that compatible with being the national thought leader or pushing the party with rallies and the like. She needs to be the bad guy quite often: if something has only 200 votes, and trying to push it is only going to expose some of her vulnerable members who don't want to be put to a vote on something, frequently it is her job to take the blame. There's a reason Speakers (or majority leaders) don't run for President. It's not a job you can be popular with the public in, because you need to be good at the backroom politics and often that's not compatible with being widely popular. I also note you complain Pelosi didn't weaponize stuff well enough but, uh, dems did quite well in 2018 (some disappointing red state senator losses aside). From your response, it seems like you engaged with and understood my message even if we don't agree. I appreciate it. I am definitely frustrated about the state of national politics, and Pelosi at least is a symbol of the problem from my perspective, because she is a part of the professional class faction that has taken over the Democratic party and stopped meaningfully opposing issues that I think are extremely important. People itt who criticize Pelosi (besides having a number of valid complaints) are struggling with an apparent disparity between how high the stakes are from their perspective and how high they seem to be to party leaders and representatives based on their actions. At least that is the case for me. What started this argument was a poster essentially saying the slaughter of the Kurds is the cost of Trump being in power right now. That is true, regardless of whether you put that on Pelosi (as the OP did) or Republicans enabling Trump or the idiosyncrasies of the Constitution, or whatever else. The stakes are so real it's hard to appreciate adeptness at parliamentary politics.
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pkay posted:I've said this years ago. Prester Jane is an extremist and as such, whatever answer that you get will be extreme. Best to not engage. Why do you put a value judgment on "extreme" by itself? Can't things be extremely good?
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pkay posted:Crazy thing about that title is all of those are literally Kremlin talking points in regards to Hillary. Insert the "we came, we saw, he died" clip for posterity. Also, maybe a pizza reference for good measure. I'm not sure if it's just the Kremlin saying those things, though. TulliusCicero posted:I know that has abhorrent views on a lot of issues and she is a staunch isolationist nationalist, and also people trying to defend her as a "Leftist" in this thread lmao what the gently caress It really drives home just how confused and blurred lines between political parties are. Democrats stand for progressive solutions, medicare for all, and more equitable taxation plans, except when they don't. Republicans stand for austerity, tax cuts, war(?), and... the wall, I think that's another big one.
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Phobic Nest posted:Who summoned me? So is this guy own a lot of stocks in Egglands Best?
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The thread title is like an invocation to a demon lord. Like Ruby Eye Shabranigdu.
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Ither posted:The thread title is like an invocation to a demon lord. Like Ruby Eye Shabranigdu. I was thinking of a Dark Souls boss, to be quite honest.
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Ither posted:The thread title is like an invocation to a demon lord. Like Ruby Eye Shabranigdu. It's very Game of Thrones.
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sexpig by night posted:Tulsi isn't a complex person, she's a fairly proud and open Hindu Nationalist and supporter of India's BNP party. Her actions make complete sense through that lens alone, there's zero need to read some insane red scare nonsense into it and the fact that it's just a completely normal thing to decide to bring that poo poo into an argument is a genuinely very frightening thing for anyone who's an actual leftist. this. tulsi sucks and kisses dictator rear end because of her lovely beliefs and insanity and for that she should be dragged but yeah i don't get the whole "hurr she is putin asset" . like maybe but she strikes me more as some weird rear end in a top hat who is fine with fascists and such as long as they kill the right people(gays and muslims) and is cool with assad. clinton sucks as and while i don't think tulsis remarks are that super far off. its still weirdly stupid and nuts.
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pkay posted:Those look like Great Pyrenees. Those dogs are great. I guess someone was like "these dogs are great for protecting my cattle and livestock, imma put them with these penguins" Maremma sheep dogs, but yeah they are great live stock guard dogs.
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qmark posted:Why do you put a value judgment on "extreme" by itself? Can't things be extremely good? I didn't put a value judgement out there. You are correct things can be extremely good and also things can be extremely bad. But not everything is extremely good or extremely bad. So you can't treat every situation and its solution as such...
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Zwabu posted:Where even is Tulsi in polling? Why is she still in the field? Does she have an actual constituency or Donor base? Evidently she's polling at about one percent, your guess is as good as mine as to why she's still in the field, and by the looks of things, still has about two million dollars on hand.
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Zwabu posted:Where even is Tulsi in polling? Why is she still in the field? Does she have an actual constituency or Donor base? https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1185350095912484864
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Yours truly, Leonard J Crabs
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Zwabu posted:Where even is Tulsi in polling? Why is she still in the field? Does she have an actual constituency or Donor base? Last I checked she isn't even in the top 10. Most of the talk I hear about her is worry about a third party run.
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Dammerung posted:Evidently she's polling at about one percent, your guess is as good as mine as to why she's still in the field, and by the looks of things, still has about two million dollars on hand. How much is that two Mill though? I'd expect at this stage it's not a lot but who knows.
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pkay posted:I didn't put a value judgement out there. You are correct things can be extremely good and also things can be extremely bad. But not everything is extremely good or extremely bad. So you can't treat every situation and its solution as such... Y'know, I gotta call bullshit on that. Just about every time Prester challenges lovely opinions (That other posters have challenged no less! It even happened on the same page that you replied too. Kinda odd that the transwoman gets poo poo on while no one confronts the other posters.) from posters that are ignoring actual human suffering right now or actual, real deficiencies in the government you fuckers pop out of the wood work to imply she's unbalanced, an extremist, crazy, or any other of the lovely takes that have been repeatedly posted over the past two or three years over a multitude of threads. It's like you and the other five or so posters that rage at her so much think that if you repeat your claims enough that people are gonna start believing it. It's the forum poster version of RWM disinformation campaigns and even if I sometimes disagree with Prester I gotta say that you people are a hell of a lot more annoying with your constant attacks on her rather than actually addressing anything she has to say. And never mind addressing it honestly, which i've seen only maybe three times out of all those aforementioned years of bullshit that's gotten directed at her. Maybe gently caress off and leave her alone, is what i'm saying. Archonex fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Oct 19, 2019 |
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ImpAtom posted:Last I checked she isn't even in the top 10. Most of the talk I hear about her is worry about a third party run. Well she probably isn't running for re-election in Hawaii and even if she did she would probably lose. Kai Kahele is way better than her.
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Coming from 1000 years ago (crime compacted) with some info: Power Up: Why Pelosi changed her mind on impeachment "Groundswell from Democrats in swing seats: Over 20 Democrats — many of whom sit in competitive districts won by Trump in 2016 — changed their minds and came out in support of impeachment over the last 48 hours. An overwhelming majority: As of this morning, 198 House Democrats have called for an impeachment inquiry, according to my colleagues JM Rieger, Amber Phillips, and Kevin Schaul." -Yep, Pelosi is not a good "leader". She can't make inspirational speeches in front of the people. I wish she were, but nope. She has never been capable of going into districts and convincing the electorates of individual congress people to change their opinions. Nope. -Yep, Pelosi was elected by our Democratic Representatives to lead in the House. She was elected to glad-hand and threaten and poke and do whatever needs to be done in the House. Our Democratic Representatives elected her for some reason. They probably knew she wasn't good at going into districts and convincing the electorates of individual congress people to change their opinions. That's their job. -Yep, Pelosi is in currently in charge of the impeachment inquiry. No wait, Schiff is. Welcome to the sausage factory and breath deep; it's messy. And wait a bit, the sausage will come out. -Yep, Pelosi should be removed. Prepare to suck on trump's twitter rear end when that happens in the middle of an impeachment inquiry. Eyes on the prize. Counter-arguments, and proposals welcome! 
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ImpAtom posted:Last I checked she isn't even in the top 10. Most of the talk I hear about her is worry about a third party run. Which is why I think Hillary did what she did, to poison any such run before it even gets out of the gate.
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Zwabu posted:How much is that two Mill though? I'd expect at this stage it's not a lot but who knows. I have absolutely no idea. The only thing I can compare it to is the Biden campaign, which currently is in a difficult spot with only $9 million on hand. For a Congressperson, $2 million sounds exceptional, for a Presidential nominee, it's not as great.
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Niwrad posted:Is it baseless? Tulsi's whole thing has been regurgitating Assad talking points and going on Russian state TV to praise their policies. Be fair. She also goes on Fox News.
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ImpAtom posted:Last I checked she isn't even in the top 10. Most of the talk I hear about her is worry about a third party run. There are really five at best, when everyone knows it's just three. Everyone else is doing a vanity run. Tulsi more than most.
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