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Hentai Jihadist posted:i dunno why youd watch parliament at this point, nothings gonna happen by the end of the day its just gonna be more endless poo poo stretching into the future for another 5 years at least ah, an optimist
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ronya posted:Starmer looks like he's having fun his dad worked in a factory you know 
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Happy birthday Rarity! Also going back to Vitamin Ps posts (even knowing it's him) the whole European Commission not being directly elected issue is an interesting one. I don't actually think it's terrible, both because pragmatically speaking it makes the member governments more invested in the EU rather than having an antagonistic relationship with it, as well as because the resulting commissions have largely been more letfy and evidence-based than if it were formed from the EP election winners. There's also the fact that all proposed legislation has to be agreed on by the parliament and can be amended, which gives the parliament a great deal of power. Yes it is less democratic, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, particularly in a situation with prominent RWM in many member countries, often the more populous ones (and thus ones with more MEPs). It also gives an important voice to the smaller countries, whose concerns otherwise
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Ratjaculation posted:im watching rugby, similar to Brexit its not good for Ireland Oh, they'll be fine as long as they just let us peacefully invade. Happy birthday excellent poster Rarity 
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Happy birthday rarity. you share your birthday with Bertha Knight Landes who sounds like a right dudette.
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Bercow also looks like he's having fun
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Do we reckon the letwin amendment will pass?
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Rarity posted:It is my birthday today and I cannot be hosed with worrying about Brexit. I'm gonna play some vidgams and treat myself to a delivery for dinner and check in with the result later. Godspeed, friends. Happy birthday Rarity. You don't like horrible mutated cats, so here are some nice ones to speed you on your way!   
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ThomasPaine posted:Do we reckon the letwin amendment will pass? A good general rule seems to be "if it will help rule out no deal it will pass, otherwise gently caress knows" so on that basis I'm going to say yes
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Happy birthday Rarity. I've also decided to sit today's machinations out (and definitely no twitter). There's nothing I can do or say that will change matters today but I can at least save my blood pressure. I have 4 relative/close friend birthdays in the next 7 days so just had coffee out with one of them.
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Starmer has finished his exegesis. Letwin is moving his amendment ronya fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Oct 19, 2019 |
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So if this amendment passes, the government pull the vote and everyone goes home? Then presumably Boris will be forced to send the letter, and we might get a VONC next week? E: steady on Tess... https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1185524510830845952?s=09
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Oct 19, 2019 12:53
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e: nah
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Oct 19, 2019 12:56
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CoolCab posted:ah, an optimist so far betting on "parliament cannot take positive action re: brexit" is working out very nicely, as long as positive action means doing something, not whether its good or bad. considering if they dont do anything they get another extension to go on holiday again it seems fairly likely that a deal wont be agreed today
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it is mildly refreshing to hear the Scottish MPs let rip - no wriggling about the people's will etc
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baka kaba posted:Keir's going for a powerful performance I loved it, but a lot of the praise for it is framed as "if only he was in charge of Labour instead of that wretched Corbyn", sigh Private Speech posted:Happy birthday Rarity! The real democratic deficit is, as always, in the EU structures maintaining neoliberalism, capitalism and austerity. One of these is the EU budget regulations, which were agreed upon by the member states' governments many years ago and are woefully out of date, and which have a built-in assumption that deficit spending is always bad regardless of circumstance. The other is the European Central Bank which was "walled off from politics" in the German tradition, under the pretense that if politicians have no direct say in the ECB's decision-making, it will be an ideology-free technocratic institution, except surprise, technocracy and austerity are also ideologies and there is no such thing as an apolitical monetary policy. The third is the euro. There is a fundamental problem in the EU having a common monetary policy but national fiscal policies. Both should be common, or both should be national. It is literally a textbook example of how not to do things in that I first read about this problem in my econ 101 textbook by Joseph Stiglitz.
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ronya posted:e: nah Agreed
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I thought Kier did a dire job. Kept letting interventions cut in, making his more technical speech disorganised and messy. He really needs to start ignoring MP requests to give way.
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Yeah he got about five words in between each intervention. Blackford's got the right idea by bulldozing through.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY RARITY, please play many videos game and CONSUME your preferred foods/drinks!!!
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Flint looks weirdly pleased at Blackford swatting away her remark
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Caroline flint just nicely drawing attention to internal labour slapfighting there for no conceivable reason, very cool I swear to god if this passes thanks to labour rebels I will be so mad
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lmao imagine being theresa may
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ThomasPaine posted:Caroline flint just nicely drawing attention to internal labour slapfighting there for no conceivable reason, very cool OP, if this passes at all I will be rather incandescent with rage, no matter who votes for it. But I suppose for now I can at least escape this hell for Disco Elysium for the time being. Go go Commie Cop.
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Hah May has melted, sounds like she wants a no deal. Edit: Or maybe not, first half sounded like it.
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aha, found it https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1185475832979943425 so Blackford was just going on about his amendment for giggles, I suppose. huh. ronya fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Oct 19, 2019 |
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baka kaba posted:lmao imagine being theresa may one morning, as baba kaba woke from troubled dreams, he found himself transformed in his bed into a Tory
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^^^ hey I thought we'd banned existential horror ittforkboy84 posted:OP, if this passes at all I will be rather incandescent with rage, no matter who votes for it. but your fisheries!!!
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ronya posted:e: nah #2 Can someone turn ronya off and on again, I think they’re broken.
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forkboy84 posted:OP, if this passes at all I will be rather incandescent with rage, no matter who votes for it. I've been a literal ball of white hot fury since the EU gave Boris this massive gift Regardless of what happens today (and I think his deal will pass sans amendment) - 5 years of a hard right Tory hellhole is beckoning
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Can someone turn ronya off and on again, I think they’re broken. It's good, this is I think the most I've agreed with ronya in one day!
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https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/1185323306641174530 thread favourite Farron responds to other thread favourite Flint
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In the meantime, burn down The Sun https://twitter.com/SunApology/status/1185533473974607873
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Sammy Wilson giving Parliament a good bollocking.
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baka kaba posted:So does that mean the DUP are voting for the amendment or what Looks like it. Arelene said they wouldn't vote for Boris's plan.
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