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LOL that I'm so involved in this that I'm explaining it out even though I've only been to Britain once in my life for three days and hated my entire time there except for the Tower of London, that was cool as poo poo.
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Boris refusing to write the letter?
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Pancakes posted:Boris refusing to write the letter?
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Oct 19, 2019 15:08
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The poo poo you see when look through the #brexitdiagram tag...
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Oct 19, 2019 15:08
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Of course he is refusing to write the letter. That's been the plan since the Benn act was passed. Now what the gently caress can parliament do to get an extension passed when all our laws say it has to be him to do it. Queen to step in? Which is an impossibility
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Oct 19, 2019 15:09
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Probably Magic posted:LOL that I'm so involved in this that I'm explaining it out even though I've only been to Britain once in my life for three days and hated my entire time there except for the Tower of London, that was cool as poo poo. it’s a poo poo country full of poo poo people tbh
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Oct 19, 2019 15:09
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lol can parliament remove Boris from office or is that only the queen (I thought she was a figurehead with no powers)?
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Oct 19, 2019 15:11
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spacemang_spliff posted:lol My understanding is that parliament can do virtually anything in the British system, including replacing Boris Johnson, but continues to do do nothing because it is deeply divided on Brexit and scared of something called the Corbyn-Man.
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Oct 19, 2019 15:13
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EU should just extend it without him asking them to
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spacemang_spliff posted:lol It can vote no confidence in the government, which forces a new election unless there is another motion passed which says that on reflection people do have confidence in the government within 14 days (worth pointing out Bojo tried to do this to his own government and couldn't get the votes to do it, meaning he failed to pass a no confidence vote in himself).
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Oct 19, 2019 15:15
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we cut to boris writing the address on the envelope of the letter to jean-claude junckers european commission to: jean-paul gaultier european magician 42069 amsterdam
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Oct 19, 2019 15:18
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jBrereton posted:Parliament can't remove the PM since who gets to be PM is an internal party matter for the people running the government. my god that is confusing so basically brexit continues to simultaneously happen and not happen for all of eternity?
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Oct 19, 2019 15:20
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Randler posted:My understanding is that parliament can do virtually anything in the British system, including replacing Boris Johnson, but continues to do do nothing because it is deeply divided on Brexit and scared of something called the Corbyn-Man. Wasn't one of his first hare-brained gambits to VoNC himself, because of an old clause that lets the ousted prime minister set the timetable for the next election? Such that he could move the election to November if he got the boot? Parliament is garbage and terrified of letting a leftist having an ounce of power, but from my understanding, forcing an extension through is the only way to get rid of Boris without the Boje burning down the country on his way out.
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Speaking of parliament not having any power, now they are just realizing that the Leader of the House can do whatever the gently caress he wants and they can't stop him.
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Oct 19, 2019 15:26
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They could try switch the mace on and off?
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SelenicMartian posted:The poo poo you see when look through the #brexitdiagram tag... i know it may look funny, but this is standard parliamentary dress for the leader of the opposition. that chicken suit actually dates back to 1793. traditionally, the suit is given to the opposition leader as they enter the chamber by black rod, and they must put it on in full view of the chamber (another procedural rule from 1925 states they must be nude apart from the suit while in session)
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spacemang_spliff posted:my god that is confusing
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redleader posted:i know it may look funny, but this is standard parliamentary dress for the leader of the opposition. that chicken suit actually dates back to 1793. traditionally, the suit is given to the opposition leader as they enter the chamber by black rod, and they must put it on in full view of the chamber (another procedural rule from 1925 states they must be nude apart from the suit while in session)
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Randler posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbdlQUJ2xkI House of Commons YT nice, Saturday morning Parliament... quote:It’s rare for The House of Commons to sit on a Saturday, but it’s happened four times before: wait a minute
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Man Musk posted:nice, Saturday morning Parliament... Nice. Four important historical occasions, and a fifth where the government goes "SIKE" and fucks off.
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redleader posted:i know it may look funny, but this is standard parliamentary dress for the leader of the opposition. that chicken suit actually dates back to 1793. traditionally, the suit is given to the opposition leader as they enter the chamber by black rod, and they must put it on in full view of the chamber (another procedural rule from 1925 states they must be nude apart from the suit while in session) It's not the original chicken suit, that was devoured by starving MPs during the war.
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Oct 19, 2019 15:43
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So Boris is refusing to honor the Benn Act even though he promised he would if his deal failed a few weeks ago? Do I have that right?
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Oct 19, 2019 15:45
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SelenicMartian posted:The poo poo you see when look through the #brexitdiagram tag... Can't wait to see Mr Chicken make a triumphant return to Downing street
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Oct 19, 2019 15:56
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I just looked up the text of the Benn act again and I had totally forgotten that it included the letter and layout Boris is supposed to send because they can't trust him to even write a letter 
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Randler posted:I just looked up the text of the Benn act again and I had totally forgotten that it included the letter and layout Boris is supposed to send because they can't trust him to even write a letter Lol. So is he gonna send it?
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Oct 19, 2019 16:16
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Brexit rules, I'm glad it's infinite, I'm laughing actually
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Brexit!
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gently caress you dad, you can't make me write a letter to the eu
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Good to see brexit is going to plan
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spacemang_spliff posted:my god that is confusing Schrodinger's brexit
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jBrereton posted:Parliament can't remove the PM since who gets to be PM is an internal party matter for the people running the government. This is absolutely 100% wrong. Parliament de facto appoints the Prime Minister. They could vote tomorrow to make Corbyn, Chuka, or the Archbishop of Canterbury (who is of course a member of the House of Lords, so eligible for the job) if they so desired - the fact that the PM is the leader of the largest party or coalition in the Commons is a reflection of the fact that if you have a majority in the Commons you can pass whatever you like. The actual constitutional framework is that the monarch appoints the PM, who has to demonstrate that they have the confidence of the House (either through passing a Queen's Speech following a General Election or by the Opposition failing to get a VoNC passed in the event of mid-term replacements). Even with FTPA loving things up it's still constitutionally possible for the Commons to no-confidence Boris and vote in A.N. Other as PM, which has been what all the fuckaboutery with the Lib Dems has been over the last few months.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:This is absolutely 100% wrong. Parliament passing a VONC in a PM doesn't mean anything, and has no effect whatsoever. If they put a VONC in on the government and then decide on a new PM they decide to have confidence in, that's a different matter.
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jBrereton posted:No, it isn't. To be pedantic, then, parliament could pass a no confidence motion in Boris Johnson's government, and the appointment of any prospective replacement would be conditional on their commanding the confidence of the house. Who gets to be PM is absolutely the prerogative of parliament.
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lmao https://twitter.com/BBCChrisMorris/status/1185564064119951361
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do all British men have dicknames
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jBrereton posted:No, it isn't. You said that appointing the PM is an internal affair for the ruling party, which is almost exactly the opposite of the actual situation.
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Bryter posted:To be pedantic, then, parliament could pass a no confidence motion in Boris Johnson's government, and the appointment of any prospective replacement would be conditional on their commanding the confidence of the house.
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jBrereton posted:Right, but they can't precision target the PM
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Randler posted:They could try switch the mace on and off? They would have to challenge the Serjeant-at-arms to do duel, it would take weeks for the blacksmiths to forge the constitutionally mandated single-use swords
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Probably Magic posted:LOL that I'm so involved in this that I'm explaining it out even though I've only been to Britain once in my life for three days and hated my entire time there except for the Tower of London, that was cool as poo poo. Go to Manchester, the jewel of the north
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