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If I'm not misremembering they mentioned early in the CK2 development about having Kings being vassal dukes under other Kings and that interesting dynamic, like the English were in France for most of the time period. However, this never happened in CK2 and I'm wondering if that is something they want to implement in CK2, since it could lead to some interesting gameplay.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:When one of the top bullet points is "it won't say Deus Vult" they really must be scraping the bottom of the barrel to hype it up, you could use a mod to remove that from CK2 in about 5 seconds. It's part of what RockPaperShotgun found interesting. It's important to RPS.
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thanks for the writeup Drone, tried to watch the twitch stream but it put me to sleep
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Like I said in the CK thread, the increased focus on characters looks interesting. As well I hope that my favorite bits of CK2 get ported on, namely Hellenism and enatic succession. I was very disappointed when in IR I couldn't find a way to mod in enatic succession, since succession laws were hard coded. I really hope enatic is there, if only for modders to use.
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Yeah going full Enatic + Warmongering for the deposition CB was one of the better/more fun additions to CK2 and seeing it return in some form would be aces.
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woah, CKIII looks amazingly pretty, and the map is even bigger somehow?
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dead gay comedy forums posted:woah, CKIII looks amazingly pretty, and the map is even bigger somehow? Baronies are represented on the map now, so the map is 4x bigger while covering almost the same region as the last game.
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Ham posted:Baronies are represented on the map now, so the map is 4x bigger while covering almost the same region as the last game. Which (for me) is a massive lure. I really like the map in Imperator even though the game itself doesn't grab me, so making it bigger in a game I like? Sure.
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Btw, here is GamerZakh playing Surving the Aftermath. Says it plays closer to Frostpunk. https://youtu.be/pvwxPbeypjA
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Is it as micro-management focused? That was what really put me off Frostpunk.
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Ham posted:Baronies are represented on the map now, so the map is 4x bigger while covering almost the same region as the last game. What region does it cover? I hadn’t seen that yet
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Koramei posted:What region does it cover? I hadn’t seen that yet Seems like at least as much as CK2 after all the updates, sub Saharan Africa and India are both mentioned on the official site
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SlothfulCobra posted:The map looks like they're taking some of the map tricks of Imperator, which seems neat. It seems to be missing the best part of Imperator's map, though, which is the heavy use of impassables to break up the strategic landscape. At least, it doesn't look like the Pennines or the Highlands are present as any sort of barrier to movement. They're barely present at all, in fact- the topology is weirdly under-exaggerated. Province density is nice, dynamism in religious doctrine might be fun, improvements to intrigue are desperately welcome. The rest I'm either apathetic about or actively dislike. Dynasty perks, Jesus loving H Christ Paradox 
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cheesetriangles posted:Here I will layout the reasons why the next game after CK3 is Victoria 3. Johan totally had to remind himself that Vicky 2 was the most recent Vicky game in the Imperator talk. 
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I really hated the art style and "vibe" of surviving mars but this apocalyptic one looks actually... good? Oh christ it's an Epic Exclusive 
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Baronjutter posted:Oh christ it's an Epic Exclusive Just for its Early Access period, FWIW. I'm more than happy to wait for all EGS nonsense to expire, but this one is easier than most.
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If small developers can get the sack of cash Epic gives them to be early-access exclusive and then be platform-neutral for full release I think that's best of both worlds.
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Looked up a gameplay vide of aftermath. If mars was Tropico in space this game is Banished, but with nuclear waste
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Do we have another announcement today? I was thinking that other studio Paradox got that the Sims guy works for.
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/buyer-beware-potential-qa-issues-at-paradox-may-affect-the-quality-of-ck3.1262056/ Oh look, another drama. Reddit is having a great time discussing this.
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All the publishing QA being released explains what happened with Nova Empires.
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ilitarist posted:https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/buyer-beware-potential-qa-issues-at-paradox-may-affect-the-quality-of-ck3.1262056/ I do like the idiot moderator walking straight into the landmine that is trying to stop people talking about a thing. Also not really a surprising development.
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What?? The Paradox is just another game company full of horrible labour practices? But their marketing and tweets assured me they were one of the good ones!
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So how long has it been since Paradox’s IPO?
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Galaga Galaxian posted:So how long has it been since Paradox’s IPO? I think 3 years? 1 year in with the predatory mobile game lady at the helm. Tell you guys what, I'm going to go dig up 50 million dollars or so and start a dev studio and hire all our favs from paradox and we'll run it like a co-op where everyone's treated really well and the games get proper QA. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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I made the mistake of browsing the CKIII forum. This Deus Vult thing is like a magnet for morons whining about history and free speech. History buffs are the worst loving thing because they know the outlines of history without actually knowing how the field functions so they get pissy about these kinds of "controversies."
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Minenfeld! posted:I made the mistake of browsing the CKIII forum. This Deus Vult thing is like a magnet for morons whining about history and free speech. They're not history buffs OP, they're fash.
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so reports of bad labor practices just lead to dismissive comments and whataboutism?
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Baronjutter posted:What?? The Paradox is just another game company full of horrible labour practices? But their marketing and tweets assured me they were one of the good ones! Honestly this is something people should be pissed about but instead will entirely focus on a phrase that probably wont be removed anyway. I get the industry is horrible in general, but I guess as it turns out strong labour laws don't do as much as one would hope. The laughable part is people in that thread thinking that business practices were better when the company was small. Yeah who could forget the bugfree, not-total-garbage release of EU3 or HoI3, I'm sure the one QA person was treated like gold then. The games are wayyy better than they used to be, but clearly that hasn't translated to any other part of the company. Dreylad fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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ilitarist posted:https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/buyer-beware-potential-qa-issues-at-paradox-may-affect-the-quality-of-ck3.1262056/ A lot of Paradox employees post here (and come from here) and none of them have ever really given the impression that it's as horrible as that makes out.
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Davincie posted:so reports of bad labor practices just lead to dismissive comments and whataboutism? Just from the looks it's pretty normal capitalism at work so a few mumbles about free market and everyone will forget about it because the world is broken. +1% province revolt risk for 90 days.
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Taear posted:A lot of Paradox employees post here (and come from here) and none of them have ever really given the impression that it's as horrible as that makes out. the people who post here are also The Talent.
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Minenfeld! posted:History buffs are the worst loving thing because they know the outlines of history without actually knowing how the field functions so they get pissy about these kinds of "controversies." A person claiming to be WW2 history buff. Which of those things do you think he is interested in: - Role of Latin American countries in WW2 - French political situation leading to their actions prior to and during WW2 - Economic effects of the war on USA economy - Partisan activity in Belarus - Chinese civil war - German tanks and machine guns and rockets ilitarist fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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Gamerofthegame posted:the people who post here are also The Talent. Also they aren't going to risk retaliation from management by airing their gripes about their employers on a dead comedy forum.
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I'm sure that CKIII will please the investors before it's released and kill any lasting hope fans have for this company. Imperator Rome was a shitshow release and nothing y'all have said has mitigated that disappointment. You're just going to release a barebones alpha on Game Pass and Steam and try to patch it up like every other company is doing these days.
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Taear posted:A lot of Paradox employees post here (and come from here) and none of them have ever really given the impression that it's as horrible as that makes out. PDS and the publisher are quasi distinct entities. The complaint was about publisher QA, not PDS QA.
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Jeoh posted:what investors really want is a cement factory to invest in cement factroy
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