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You should have seen the other design I was considering. Did you know you can fit 18 16" guns in triple turrets on a 60000 BB, if you ignore luxuries like armor?
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Did you ever consider if you combined these two pure creatures that live within your imagination, you would produce a mighty hybrid that could do all the things BBs do, instead of a pair of pure yet crippled Hapsburg-esque abominations choking on their own tongues. (I love the Moskva and your Agincourt, But More idea)
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Gnoman posted:You should have seen the other design I was considering. Did you know you can fit 18 16" guns in triple turrets on a 60000 BB, if you ignore luxuries like armor? Bruh. We have improved quads.
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Infidelicious posted:Bruh. We have improved quads. Yeah why do triples when when there are quads
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Jimmy4400nav posted:
Veloxyll posted:ROIGHT. WEZ GOT DA DESIGN FOR DA AIR CARRYBOAT DAT'LL GET OUR FITAZ AND BOMBAZ TO DA BATTLE EL PRONTO. Danann posted:As requested by the admiralty, the Imperial Academy Design Bureau presents to you the following designs for this contest. bewbies posted:The Bureau submits the Kirov Class Battleship. Gnoman posted:Ivan's Discount Deathtraps would like to submit the latest in our battleship line. Vote!
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Oct 20, 2019 05:49
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Baltia Kirov Tolstoy
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Oct 20, 2019 06:35
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CV Ryska Sjön Even with a 21 month construction time, she'll be in service faster than any of the other proposed CVLs and she'll boast a higher air complement than basically everyone else by the time she's finished. Plus she'll soak up the requirement for cruiser grade guns so that other CV designs aren't locked behind that requirement.
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Oct 20, 2019 06:50
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CV Ryska Sjön CA Tolstoy BB Czar Ivan I Rebuilding a deathtrap into a good CV is a mandatory choice, if nothing else we must rebuild the Ryska Sjön into a useful warship.
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Grey cleared my late entry: So LOLz procurement package is 3 fast budget battlecruisers, and a fast CVL.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4j9dunqhlqe63n/Skopa.30d?dl=0 The Skopa is a budget battlecruiser designed to engage anything currently afloat. She makes 30 Knots She has an aggressively placed battery of 8 16" forward firing guns. She has a large, and capable secondary battery / AA suite in TURRETS, that are splinter proof. She is fully splinter proof, and only costs 33m more than the CA design.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/t2kgnn7ncpl8x7r/Kuritsa%20mat.30d?dl=0 The Kuritsa Mat' is a fast CVL that carries 24 planes into battle at 30 knots She is also survivable with fully splinter protected deck and belt armor, as well as nearly top of the line torpedo protection. Infidelicious fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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Oct 20, 2019 07:46
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You people do realize that converting the Ryska Sjon will cost... checks notes... double what a new design offers, for no significant improvements? Unless I'm reading the construction costs wrong, that is.
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Dance Officer posted:You people do realize that converting the Ryska Sjon will cost... checks notes... double what a new design offers, for no significant improvements? She's the only design that can carry an airbase's worth of airplanes while moving fast. All the other ones can carry 34 at most and have to sacrifice something for it (or sacrifice the amount of planes for something else). Also she might be the first CV of the world. 
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Oct 20, 2019 08:21
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Scorpa because Battlecruisers are cool and good.
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Danann posted:She's the only design that can carry an airbase's worth of airplanes while moving fast. All the other ones can carry 34 at most and have to sacrifice something for it (or sacrifice the amount of planes for something else). Also she might be the first CV of the world. You could also use the same money to buy 2 other designs and have a lot more planes in one fleet, or two fleets with air cover.
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Oct 20, 2019 10:25
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~~Skopa~~ rear facing guns are cowardice
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Oct 20, 2019 10:53
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I'm not 100% clear on how many designs we can vote for, but I want the Skopa. If it comes with that decent CVL too then great. Almost voted for your designs though bewbies, great work shaking up the entries!
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Oct 20, 2019 11:12
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Karitsa Mat and Skopa Though the Ryska Sjon refit was incredibly tempting
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I vote for the Skopa + CVL package. Some good choices otherwise though! King Hong Kong fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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Oct 20, 2019 15:14
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Raskhoduyemyy/Begemont
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Danann posted:She's the only design that can carry an airbase's worth of airplanes while moving fast. All the other ones can carry 34 at most and have to sacrifice something for it (or sacrifice the amount of planes for something else). Also she might be the first CV of the world. The sacrifice she makes is losing a knot, having no torpedo protection system despite torpedo bombers being the primary aerial threat, and having a grand total of 8 more planes for 40m in additional money compared to your CVL design. Infidelicious fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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Oct 20, 2019 15:37
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Tough choices, but Skopa.
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Oct 20, 2019 16:32
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Skopa has a 5 inch belt, it'll blow up in a stiff breeze, y'all crazy. CV Ryska Sjön BB Czar Ivan I
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Alikchi posted:Skopa has a 5 inch belt, it'll blow up in a stiff breeze, y'all crazy. There is practically no difference between 11" belt with 4" deck and 5" belt / 2" deck vs. 16" and even 15" quality 0 guns.   So you're voting for a 50% more expensive ship with the same level of armor protection against current and future threats, that is also slower. The Ivan I is marginally better at dunking on older designs that use 12"/13" and -1 15" or -1 / 0 14" guns, but you can get the same effect by just playing keep away and opening range past 25K YDs with the Skopa. Also, by the way the law was written... you can only vote for one proposal, not split votes between designers? Nobody else really seemed to actually propose how many of them we'd build. quote:In that case, I propose the Creative Capital Idea Act: Infidelicious fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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Oct 20, 2019 19:54
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Infidelicious posted:There is practically no difference between 11" belt with 4" deck and 5" belt / 2" deck vs. 16" and even 15" quality 0 guns. Yeah, I would say that you can’t split between designers but I think that is up to Grey at this point. I’m also not exactly sure how some of the designers envisioned fulfilling the budgetary requirements.
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King Hong Kong posted:Yeah, I would say that you can’t split between designers but I think that is up to Grey at this point. I’m also not exactly sure how some of the designers envisioned fulfilling the budgetary requirements. I suspect they didn't. Budgetary requirements are why I didn't submit a 16 gunner. I couldn't get a good pair of ships. And 2x12 is more than 1x16. (I didn;t look at cost when making the CVL)
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 January 1930  The designs for the new battlecruiser are set down.  Well. That changes everything, doesn't it. February 1930  The Americans lay down the first carrier. March 1930  We get a look at an Austrian cruiser.  We get better landing craft. April 1930  Our new fighters come online. May 1930  Cut our budget? When we are nearly at war with Austria? Never.  See! See!  Well, there goes the budget! June 1930  The trade war kicks off, and we are in the lead.  The US kick it into gear, and take out one of the few Austrian Battleships. July 1930  We are invaded in Dalmatia, but we continue to see new tech.  We need ships in the med. We are unable to contest this fight. August 1930  Dammit! One of our subs causes an international incident. But t least it looks like the Austrians have come to play. Well, until they decline battle.  France are scrapping a lot of old ships. September 1930  Things are not going well down in the med, I have sent a fleet to aid them.  The lighter ships arrive.  Yeah. NOPE!  Further reports show its not to bad – we have no info on them, but I doubt they are carrying the four 8” guns the Falconyet is armed with.  Lets do this! The Pingvin class destroyers with her are top of the line, and designed as anti destroyer ships.  They flee for the safety of port.  We claim victory!  I think that's the first battlecruiser we have seen scrapped! October 1930  Curses! Time to pull our ships out of the med!  Not if I have anything to do with it.  When they can't get light terms, they throw in the towel completely!  drat right you'll give back Dalmatia! They have nothing else we want, so the rest is taken in reparations.  We start working on a new bomber. November 1930  Late for the war, but good for our reduced budget! December 1930  And there are the last of the destroyers.  This balances the budget, and world tensions are low – though it already seems like Austria-Hungary is gearing up for another war.  So much of the fleet is now obsolete.  One Skopa is under construction. The second can be ordered now, but as it is the legislative period, I will hold off.  Our budget is now comparable to the rest of the worlds! Back to you!
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That was a strange war
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Death to the Hapsburg menace! Can you post the world map so we can see who’s got what?
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Oct 21, 2019 08:15
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Can we actually get anything else from Austria, like a Capital Ship Fleet Battle? If not, we need to fight someone else. For the....prestige!
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So, Austria-Hungary invaded Dalmatian, took it, we had a battle wtih some light units in the sea, some merchatns were sunk by submarines, the US blew up one of thier battleships and.. They surrendered?
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wedgekree posted:So, Austria-Hungary invaded Dalmatian, took it, we had a battle wtih some light units in the sea, some merchatns were sunk by submarines, the US blew up one of thier battleships and.. They surrendered? Don't forget how we caused a Lusitania-like disaster to happen Were our boats on unrestricted warfare?
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Oct 21, 2019 09:05
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Seems like the French and Japanese AI have poo poo the bed, they've not been building ships, and they've not gone all in on aircraft by the looks of it.
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Oct 21, 2019 09:30
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I dunno, refit old ships Act Given the limited budgetary room at the moment, the naval office is instructed to refit the old Light Cruisers. Update fire control systems, add Increased Elevation and refit casemated 3" and 4" to turrets and DP but otherwise leave the ships as is.
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Oct 21, 2019 09:58
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Veloxyll posted:I dunno, refit old ships Act Seconded
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Maritime Aviation Act of 1931 With the development of capital ship sized aircraft carriers, Russia must not fall behind it's rivals. This Act therefore requests a new heavy carrier to be designed and constructed, to accompany our next generation of ships-of-the-line. Shipwrights are to have free reign in their design. However the clear advantage of a large carrier is a large airwing, so we would recommend aircraft space to be a priority.
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What a splendid little war!
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Back for a third time, its the Carrier Grom Act Let's convert an obsolete CA into a CV. Also Paingod556 posted:Maritime Aviation Act of 1931 Seconded
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Dance Officer posted:Seems like the French and Japanese AI have poo poo the bed, they've not been building ships, and they've not gone all in on aircraft by the looks of it. It looks like France has pulled nearly the entire fleet in for refit, actually. Paingod556 posted:Maritime Aviation Act of 1931
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Scrap the Grom and Ryska Act These vessels are carry obsolete weapons, have outdated and ineffective armor protection schemes, and lack any kind of torpedo defense system. Converting them to carriers or overhauling their propulsion or rearming them in light of their extreme vulnerability to torpedoes and mines makes no financial sense.
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Grey Hunter can I get a report on our current aircraft in production/use? Also how about a tech report, if it's not too much trouble?
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