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Who the hell would be willing to take the job? Whoever's next will be more incompetent than the Mooch https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1185903563433754624 This https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1185909879887843328
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When Rick Scott wears his Navy hat it's gross enough, but least he was in the Navy.
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With regards to truck-chat, as someone who has friends in the industry, you wouldn't even need to get roads blocked. Just getting a large group of truckers to just... go on strike and not truck would be enough to paralyze most cities in the US. US industries are soooooo dependent on trucks it's kinda scary. Most grocery stores would be out of fresh products in about a week, especially in areas like the Northeast/Midwest going into winter. And that's not even talking about poo poo like packages, medical supplies, etc. And there is a massive dearth of truckers right now. Just like in most service industries, they are desperate to hire and were gutted by the heroin epidemic. Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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I know we are talking about someone who is a bootlick to president moron, but how dumb is this dude. I can believe his rear end is gone soon.
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Turns out ol Mickey turned out to be the hand grenade.
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Who needs an impeachment inquiry. Just stick these guys in front of a camera and ask them questions.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Is the whole "<insert enemy here> is going CRAZY!" a new thing for Trump? I feel like I'm seeing it a lot more lately. It's a pretty common refrain by now. He's using a lot more of his classic lines lately because he's bitch tweeting more and more since his "executive time" hours got extended. His jobs are essentially in order of priority tweeting, golfing, going to his own rallies, and occasionally exercising executive powers to enact pointless tariffs and destabilize regions with seemingly on purpose terrible foreign policy reversals from the Obama and Bush eras. That really does seem to be about the extent of it. The whole Doral thing is another perfect example of just how loving utterly stupid the Trump Presidency is. It's almost like they announced it and retracted it just for "lib owning" potential never intending to go through with it, but just to put yet another thing that's nakedly corrupt and awful about his presidency out there. Like you can basically count on him to do or announce the most horrible policy poo poo possible on purpose any given day only to reverse course on half of it within a 48 hour period. Isn't it just great? I feel like the rapid decline of any sense of stability in his presidency is a combination of firing everybody that kind of knew what they were doing and losing the House. Without competent civil servants and without a clear path to getting lovely Republican legislation passed he's just kind of content to watch it all burn if not throw the match on the gasoline fire himself from time to time. Kale fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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I wonder if Mulvaney assumed Fox would let him lie without calling him on it, or if they purposefully gave him false confidence for the smack down .
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eke out posted:note that not only is this a lie, but it's not even the acting secretary of defense's name This must be the work of...Soros! 
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Bellmaker posted:With regards to truck-chat, as someone who has friends in the industry, you wouldn't even need to get roads blocked. You shut down trucking you basically collapse Amazon overnight. I don’t much care for Andrew Yang but he was right in one of his interviews when he said that Trucker Drivers alone basically have the power to bring the country down if they ever organize nationally. The threat of Automation may just be enough to do that, one day.
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eke out posted:note that not only is this a lie, but it's not even the acting secretary of defense's name esper got confirmed back in july
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Is the whole "<insert enemy here> is going CRAZY!" a new thing for Trump? I feel like I'm seeing it a lot more lately. Just more projection.
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So when Mulvaney gets fired who is going to takeover his 13 different jobs?
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Charlz Guybon posted:America is just not that dense. Can we truly generate a critical mass when everyone is so spread out? Think about logistics and supply chains not 3.5% of the population
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Working at my company, the level of freak out a business has when lines go down and work stops is incredible. It's tremendous amount of pressure to manage through. Stopping a company's production line can also mean all the plant workers going home and not getting paid until the company can build something and we've faced difficulty with trucking as is in the industry to the point some companies have programs where they will pay a partnered college and people to go to school to be trained to be a truck driver then hire them out after they graduate and end up with their own little logistics division. The United States created an infrastructure meant to support the vehicle industry and spread everything out. Air is very expensive depending on size and weight. Keep in mind too the Govt. shutdown was risking the airlines and thus not only commute but probably business logistics. When NYC was saying it would shut airports down, the shutdown ended right after. It's incredible leverage if that gets into risk.
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You could have a republican on tape saying 2 +2 = 5 and they'd still sit there not only saying they didn't say that, but that many people also believe that 2+2 is 5, and many maths have been based on it, and what about that time hillary made a mistake on that extremely complicated calculus problem? What about that? Besides, I already explained that I know 2+2 is 4.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Don't post this rear end in a top hat I mean, horseguy (Twitter horseguy, not the VP) is absolutely an rear end in a top hat, but I think that he had a point there.
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Lots of companies have things in their business contracts with other companies that say, “If we don’t deliver on time/keep call times below a limit/keep production or our demand for your services above a certain point, we’ll give you money.” Industrial and commercial disruption is an effective way to damage multiple interests at once and can be done with such little manpower that it could be argued this realization has been kept from the average American to safeguard profits.
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ummel posted:When Rick Scott wears his Navy hat it's gross enough, but least he was in the Navy. Pretty sure that image is from when he is actually visiting the ship he's wearing the hat of. All Presidents do that.
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It would be cool if the culture in the United States allowed for those with a surplus to aid in financial support of those who wish to go on strike. Solidarity for $500 Alex.
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evilweasel posted:if McSally loses in 2020, will she be the first person to lose elections for both of a state's senate seats? John James is poised to do the same thing in Michigan, he tried to unseat Stabenow last year, and he's declared to run against Gary Peters next year.
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Gyges posted:Those are the same era as what originated the term Yellow Journalism. It's also why I mentioned the first newspapers of the US. If anything, Yellow Journalism was more fact based and informative than the newspapers of the founders. What you're missing here is that there used to be dozens of independent newspapers. Most households subscribed to two or more, in order to get some balance. After ther 1996 Telecommunicatoions Act, that wide perspective is gone. Three corporation own the lion's share of news media. It was a highly competitive business, and while muck-raking sells a bit more copy, most newspapers were striving to print a fact-based reality, because people would come to depend on it, and retain a core subscriber base. Also, it's not a false mythology. There were (and ostensibly remain) standards and practices for news. I was trained in those standards and practices when earning my BA in journalism in 1984. Stop tossing off the entire profession as "always biased," you're furthering the Fox News trope. Broadcast media news departments were constantly at loggerheads with the upper management and the advertising folks.
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Prester Jane posted:I have spent my entire life fighting the system and specifically fighting the people/mindset that are presently destroying our nation. If you do not prove to the system that you are willing, capable, and prepared to hurt it- then no matter what else you do the system will still win. Where do you work if you don't mind me asking?
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Charlz Guybon posted:Who's going to run for her seat if she wins? Clark and Moulton and Pressley probably.
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PainterofCrap posted:What you're missing here is that there used to be dozens of independent newspapers. Most households subscribed to two or more, in order to get some balance. After ther 1996 Telecommunicatoions Act, that wide perspective is gone. Three corporation own the lion's share of news media. It also doesn’t help that starting around the mid 90s newspapers re-calibrated the price of their product to be “free, but with online ads” while simultaneously operating under the assumption that print would continue as a high margin product that would carry the business. Edit: also I wish I could find that graph that plotted the advertising revenue of the entire newspaper industry against Facebook/Google and how they sucked the oxygen out of the room
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evilweasel posted:if McSally loses in 2020, will she be the first person to lose elections for both of a state's senate seats? Maybe Beto if he gets his head out his rear end wrt running for President.
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Edmund Lava posted:Maybe Beto if he gets his head out his rear end wrt running for President. Trying to run for a statewide office in Texas after coming out in support of mandatory gun buybacks would certainly be bold I’ll give him that.
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Edmund Lava posted:Maybe Beto if he gets his head out his rear end wrt running for President. Beto's all in on VP.
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howe_sam posted:John James is poised to do the same thing in Michigan, he tried to unseat Stabenow last year, and he's declared to run against Gary Peters next year. ...and he is probably going to lose, and lose again to Stabenow in 2024. An immense joke of a candidate and campaign.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So when Mulvaney gets fired who is going to takeover his 13 different jobs? Jared
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Pompeo's shook https://twitter.com/adamweinstein/status/1185947146891288576?s=21
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For anybody here who doesn't particularly want to hear Secretary Pompeo speak, this clip is absolutely amazing. He literally freezes for a few seconds and pretends that he didn't hear what he was just asked.
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Donald Trump said he was willing to let them use his golf course resort for the G7 at-cost, and not make a profit. Skipping over the fact that nobody believes he wouldn't still be profiting, doesn't making that offer at all mean Trump has abandoned the pretense that he's not still actively running his businesses? (Not that anyone truly believed that either) You don't get to offer special deals on services from a company you aren't in charge of.
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BiggerBoat posted:Where do you work if you don't mind me asking? To be completely frank I don't have formal employment- I have schizoaffective disorder and have been formally declared disabled. (I won a mental health disability trial in Texas- which is not easy.) My experience fighting the system comes from being raised in (and in my teenage years rebelling against) a fundagelical cult that ran it's own (unaccredited but legal because of RFRA laws) k-12 school that taught nothing but Christian Dominionist propaganda. About a decade back I fought an internal war at my employer (a major roller coaster park) for better conditions and to improve the abysmal state of employee housing- some rooms were unheated during an Ohio winter, bedbug outbreaks were common, the company packed us in like sardines and charged an amount of rent that (per sq foot) was equivalent to a high rise apartment in Seattle. (A portion of that fight played out on this board.) . To say nothing of the times I witnessed people left withput breaks in safety-related positions so long that they literally soiled themselves. There is a bunch of other activism things I have played a role in (e.g. chanology, the Ron Paul march in WoW, outing the leader of the cult I was raised on as a child predator)- many of which I have to be rather circumspect in referencing. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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i am harry posted:Industrial and commercial disruption is an effective way to damage multiple interests at once and can be done with such little manpower that it could be argued this realization has been kept from the average American to safeguard profits. https://www.wired.com/story/notpetya-cyberattack-ukraine-russia-code-crashed-the-world/ The tl;dr is that it has significant costs but has not been enough to force the global corporate elite to meaningfully address the more complex core issues, and that normally unthinkable expenses are easily made once damages rise high enough. The idea of a strike or slowdown disrupting critical infrastructure has long been attractive to those feeling shut out of power by the elites (freep thread regulars will recall the masturbatory fantasies and planning for a trucker convoy shutting down DC under Obama), but the flaw remains the same: the more essential the infrastructure, the further those in power will go to maintain/regain it. A nationwide street blockade would be measured in hours, not weeks. General strikes will see wellcompensated scabs within a week-very few jobs are actually that essential. Aviation personnel are mostly excluded because of airline/political fears of the lasting impact of a high profile catastrophe... we've seen that there are no similar concerns about traffic fatalities. The system is resilient. It can be fought, changed, adapted, and even fixed... but the idea that what's preventing these victories is a lack of will or desire is the same tedious  whether applied to congressional politics, local governance, or nationwide collective action. It's the flipside of the same coin as Sorkin's pablum, that the system(and/or media) will save us all, if only the levers of power were manned by intelligent and moral people.
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Dammerung posted:For anybody here who doesn't particularly want to hear Secretary Pompeo speak, this clip is absolutely amazing. He literally freezes for a few seconds and pretends that he didn't hear what he was just asked. Just so we all know what domino's next to fall, Pompeo's position here is this: President Trump and his closest advisors released military aid to Ukraine based on their conclusion that Ukraine had taken steps to reduce corruption and, as a bonus, they at the same time realized that even though the EU wasn't sending Ukraine lethal aid, they were sending them non-lethal aid, so Trump's point about "Europe doesn't help you so much" can be explained away. That's their "this isn't impeachable, see?" position that they're holding up for GOP congressmen to hide behind. It's thin, but it's there. Now we get to see who gets in front of a mic next week and blows it up.
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