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Overwatch Porn posted:everyone's raving about disco elysium and watching my husband play makes it seem cool as hell, but i am just so loving sick of playing dudes in games that i can't bring myself to load it up You're really missing out, it's not something where you can customize your character's basics because uncovering your past life as a fuckup is a big part of the story.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:You're really missing out, it's not something where you can customize your character's basics because uncovering your past life as a fuckup is a big part of the story. i'm sure it is, but it's just something i can't get over. can't imagine playing such a character and choice heavy game as a dude at this point in my life
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Oct 20, 2019 22:39
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Oct 20, 2019 23:00
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Overwatch Porn posted:i'm sure it is, but it's just something i can't get over. can't imagine playing such a character and choice heavy game as a dude at this point in my life ok
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Oct 20, 2019 23:07
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You've mentioned this exact same issue half a dozen times in this thread (or at least 2 or 3, sometimes other people say it too, so I'm not sure it's always you) and this is always the reaction people receive. Nothing wrong with holding those values or w/e but really how can you expect a different response at this point? Agent355 has a new favorite as of 23:50 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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Oct 20, 2019 23:45
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Agent355 posted:You've mentioned this exact same issue half a dozen times in this thread (or at least 2 or 3, sometimes other people say it too, so I'm not sure it's always you) and this is always the reaction people receive. Nothing wrong with holding those values or w/e but really how can you expect a different response at this point? lmao
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Oct 20, 2019 23:53
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please no repeating issues in the 'complain about the same dozen game mechanics over and over' megathread
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Oct 20, 2019 23:54
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It's a pretty valid complaint, too. Don't most games of that genre let you pick your gender?
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Most games of the genre feature a blank slate protagonist that you can slap any class/race/gender combo on top of to engage in combat mechanics because the story isn't actually about the protagonist. This game is explicitly a story about a particular character that you're playing. It's the same reason nobody gets to choose Geratlt's gender in Witcher. E: I mean sex, not gender. I'd change it but then oldpainless's post wouldn't make sense. More like oldeditless. Agent355 has a new favorite as of 00:03 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Oct 20, 2019 23:58
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Gender of rivia
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Oct 21, 2019 00:02
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Agent355 posted:Most games of the genre feature a blank slate protagonist that you can slap any class/race/gender combo on top of to engage in combat mechanics because the story isn't actually about the protagonist. This game is explicitly a story about a particular character that you're playing. It's the same reason nobody gets to choose Geratlt's gender in Witcher. Yes, and yet, that specific character is almost always male... hmm wonder if that's the annoying thing 
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I enjoyed Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice.  I don't really understand the complaint tbh. I don't give a poo poo what the protagonist looks like as long as the story is good. If it's important to you great, it's really no skin off my nose. Live your best life and all that, but it's weird to get passive aggressive at people who are dismissive of your opinions in this thread. Everytime this comes up somebody else responds like 'really? who cares about that?' and then there is a brief slap fight, and I really really don't understand why that exchange keeps happening from either side of it.
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Oct 21, 2019 00:12
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You're the one being weird and dragging this out. Its someone's else complaint, you don't have to understand it.
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I think the thing is, presumably, is that you are a dude. Most game protags are dudes, so it's not unusual to follow a dude and his story. Always having it be a dude leaves out representation for women. Sure, there are lady protags, but not enough for fair representation. It would be like every movie starring the same cast; you'd get loving tired of seeing those same people all the time.
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RyokoTK posted:Yes, and yet, that specific character is almost always male... hmm wonder if that's the annoying thing Something I really like about Control, which I'll admit isn't an RPG but is very character-driven, is that you play as a woman but you didn't have to. There's no special, driving reason that the protagonist had to be a woman, the story would work just fine with a male protagonist, she's just a woman because she is, and if you don't like it you can deal with it. That shouldn't be a landmark, I shouldn't be celebrating a game that just made a simple decision that their protagonist should be a lady and the choice wasn't driven by either sex appeal or a story about motherhood (or both, hello Bayonetta). That should not be worth celebrating. But it is.
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The harsh truth is that mostly dudes play video games. Like how many females even play a game, seven?
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oldpainless posted:The harsh truth is that mostly dudes play video games. Like how many females even play a game, seven? they are too busy hunting for berries
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Agent355 posted:I enjoyed Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice. I mean, it doesn't seem like a particularly confusing complaint? If you're a woman who wants a story that relates to you and speaks to you, it's not as easy to find as it would be for a man, and you have to deal with a massive oversaturation of games that focus exclusively/near-exclusively on men and are created for a primarily male audience. It's frustrating to only have a relatively small number of games that feature female protagonists and focus heavily on womens' lives and stories. Recently there have been more games where women are protagonists and the story centers on them, but there's still a huge imbalance. There are still far more blockbuster games that feature male protagonists and target a male audience than otherwise. I mean, poo poo, we've already had a fair few AAA games all about being a gruff dad and what fatherhood means and all that. How many games exist where you can even play a woman who is a mother at all? If I hadn't already gotten the game already because I'd been sold by other praise for Disco Elysium, I'd probably roll my eyes at yet another piece of media based on the incredibly cliche idea of "hard-drinking burnout male police detective" Casey Finnigan has a new favorite as of 00:40 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Cleretic posted:Something I really like about Control, which I'll admit isn't an RPG but is very character-driven, is that you play as a woman but you didn't have to. There's no special, driving reason that the protagonist had to be a woman, the story would work just fine with a male protagonist, she's just a woman because she is, and if you don't like it you can deal with it. I think Jesse being a 28-year old woman is kind of important to the text of Control in a way that's never directly stated but definitely present.
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I don't play video games with a protagonist who can run more then 5 feet without running out of breath, I just can't immerse myself in that character. Good thing most can't.
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Casey Finnigan posted:I mean, it doesn't seem like a particularly confusing complaint? It's confusing to me because 'stories that speak to me' aren't about people who are like me. Like, I really don't want to drag out the conversation if other people are finding my opinion grating or w/e. I don't want to upset the apple cart, but I find the complaint so confusing because it's expressing a feeling I don't feel in the slightest. It could be because I'm a dude so the sum total of my life experience has never driven me to feel like I need to see a simulacrum of myself on screen to enjoy a story. It's impossible to 100% state one way or the other for certain, but it comes off to me like a complete non sequitur sentence. I just don't equate the identity of the protagonist as a primary factor in my enjoyment of a piece of media. Of course I would love more good video games that feature women as protagonists and focus on women central stories, but I'd never say the sentence 'well I might enjoy that game but it features a women so I can't imagine playing it.' It's an incredibly foreign concept to me.
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Leal posted:I don't play video games with a protagonist who can run more then 5 feet without running out of breath, I just can't immerse myself in that character. Actual PYF: Games that have infinite sprint but don't have a setting to make it Always On. Why would I ever want to stop running in Warframe or any other fast-paced game?
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"I pledge to punch all switches, to never shoot where I could use grenades, to admit the existence of no level except Total Carnage, to never use Caps Lock as my "run" key, and to never, ever, leave a single Bob alive."
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Agent355 posted:I don't want to upset the apple cart, but I find the complaint so confusing because it's expressing a feeling I don't feel in the slightest. ok
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actual post: Turok 2 has an unskippable opening cutscene and the remastered version didn't fix this. I just want to jump into a new game and start blasting things! fuuuuuck!
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no one in the world would give me poo poo for saying i'd love to play a game but it being [x genre] makes it impossible for me to get into it. i can't stand open world games for the most part, but when i voice that opinion, no one crashes in to disregard it the way they do when i say i don't enjoy playing men in games
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Agent355 posted:It's confusing to me because 'stories that speak to me' aren't about people who are like me. Like, I really don't want to drag out the conversation if other people are finding my opinion grating or w/e. I don't want to upset the apple cart, but I find the complaint so confusing because it's expressing a feeling I don't feel in the slightest. It's probably not a feeling that you can relate to because there's never been a time when you really wanted representation that was just completely unavailable. Obviously it's true that stories about anyone can speak to anyone, that's why there are tons of female fans of games that are heavily male-centric. But there's a difference between appreciating a story about people other than yourself and appreciating a story that reflects your experience. And I think that's especially true when it's something like a video game where you, as the player, are in direct control of the central character. If it's very hard or impossible to find media that represents people that are like you, you end up feeling isolated and like your stories don't matter. When you're in that situation and it feels like there's a constant stream of media that represents other people, but not you, it's easy to get frustrated. I mean I can't speak for women but this is my experience as a bisexual person at least.
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Overwatch Porn posted:no one in the world would give me poo poo for saying i'd love to play a game but it being [x genre] makes it impossible for me to get into it. i can't stand open world games for the most part, but when i voice that opinion, no one crashes in to disregard it the way they do when i say i don't enjoy playing men in games it's a perfectly legitimate opinion and it sucks that people are falling over themselves to... what, try and disregard it harder than the last person???
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Agent355 posted:You've mentioned this exact same issue half a dozen times in this thread (or at least 2 or 3, sometimes other people say it too, so I'm not sure it's always you) and this is always the reaction people receive. Nothing wrong with holding those values or w/e but really how can you expect a different response at this point? I can think of seven reasons why Overwatch Porn vehemently refused to play as a dude in video games now and only eleven of them are because of the cheeto in charge of the USA. 4 of them are that there's only like six different models. Cleretic posted:Something I really like about Control, which I'll admit isn't an RPG but is very character-driven, is that you play as a woman but you didn't have to. There's no special, driving reason that the protagonist had to be a woman, the story would work just fine with a male protagonist, she's just a woman because she is, and if you don't like it you can deal with it. We all know the real reason is because Courtney Hope looks like a lady and it'd be a weird move to have her mocapping everything only to make a dude as the character. Women voicing men in cartoons is fine but I dunno, I think that'd be weird.
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I think we’re all forgetting the secret real protagonist of Disco Elysium, Horrific Necktie.
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exquisite tea posted:I think Jesse being a 28-year old woman is kind of important to the text of Control in a way that's never directly stated but definitely present.
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Samuringa posted:Extremely minor nitpick but I'm trying FFXV again and there's a lot of moaning and grunting when you're hanging out. I think they were trying to fill the dead air from when you're running on foot after something but it just makes it worse when everyone is going "hmmm" "ah!" "mhmm" all the time. In Japanese culture its a lot more common to make grunts and other similar noises when exerting effort and its a hurdle English translations have because it sounds super unnatural 100% of the time.
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I've always been an apologist for the first two Darksiders games. The third game really is the weakest despite 2 being cobbled together after being in limbo with the THQ situation. The camera controls are awful and frustrating, makes you appreciate how functional things are in games like God of War. Really sticks out in the Gluttony boss fight, which would be tedious if everything worked properly because of how little damage you can do, but you also have to dodge acid puddles with buggy as poo poo hit detection while the character fills up the entire screen.
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The trolley in Tomba 2 is....it's awful. There are no redeeming factors to this quest.
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The Surge needs a map so loving badly. Playing the first one, and hoo boy. At one point I wandered around for literal hours because I was trying to find a way back to the first area from the second, and it turns out it was down a badly-lit corridor that I had walked by dozens of times. Doesn't help that the levels are a madness of looping back, shortcuts that go into other shortcuts, and tunnels upon tunnels that all look the same. The DLC, at least so far, is so much better about this. RagnarokAngel posted:In Japanese culture its a lot more common to make grunts and other similar noises when exerting effort and its a hurdle English translations have because it sounds super unnatural 100% of the time. I really started noticing that fact when I watched a Japanese reality show recently, where people are having these important discussions and the other person is, at least every five seconds, going 'mm'.
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Morpheus posted:The Surge needs a map so loving badly. Playing the first one, and hoo boy. At one point I wandered around for literal hours because I was trying to find a way back to the first area from the second, and it turns out it was down a badly-lit corridor that I had walked by dozens of times. Doesn't help that the levels are a madness of looping back, shortcuts that go into other shortcuts, and tunnels upon tunnels that all look the same. Code Vein is a soulslike full of bland and forgettable level design but it has maybe the most incredibly useful map I've ever seen in a game. It has a trail of dots showing the path you've taken, but also has the dots shrink over time based on how long it's been since you walked that way, so it also shows how recently you took that particular path. Without all that the game would've probably been a completely unnavigable maze of identical passageways.
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