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mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

taqueso posted:

Aren't hue bulbs just controlled over local zigbee-alike with a bridge to local wifi, and not actually IoT?

Yeah. They’re fairly secure.

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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



what the hell is zigbee

Teal
Feb 25, 2013

by Nyc_Tattoo
I have a "smart" bulb from IKEA for my room in my rented apartment

it came with a little round battery powered thingy with 5 buttons (brighter, less bright, warmer, less warm, and on-off toggle)

I end up basically cycling between WHITEST BRIGHT when cleaning and dimmest yellowest any other time

it does literally everything I'd ever want from a light, it doesn't interface with anything other than the bulb socket, and it won't obsolete until the LED elements in it burn out

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Shear Modulus posted:

what the hell is zigbee

Low latency wireless standard made for low power appliances. The base station talks to all the bulbs using Zigbee, then you talk to the base station via a device connected to your network.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
It was part of what made me read on while researching, because I deal with Zigbee at some of our warehouses that have temperature probes that report back to base stations and it’s so much more reliable than the warehouses that cheap out and get a million little T&D thermometers that all have to be connected to the WiFi individually.

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Shear Modulus posted:

what the hell is zigbee

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse
Well it sure doesn't feel low latency.

Super low power though.

Also important: It's a mesh network.

But yeah I have mobility issues so these are a godsend. And it's hella cyberpunk dystopia to have to choose between having lightbulbs someone can compromise and risking dangerous injury due to living in a hellworld where disability automatically makes your soul worth less. (And as such I don't get the assistance I'd need and instead have to hack together things myself.)

... then again I'm a cyborg as-is since well, the mobility issues didn't come alone, so maybe it's just the cyberpsychosis talking.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



Giga Gaia posted:

i just did a little cyberpunk dystopia man im cool im fuckin fine its nothing

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
If you're gonna live in a cyberpunk dystopia, might as well have fun with it.

I really feel it when hacking or viruses are front page news.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


this thread frowns ion embracing cyberpunk poo poo but if cyber eyes become a thing I'm totally gonna get one because my left eye is poo poo

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



mysterious frankie posted:

Low latency wireless standard made for low power appliances. The base station talks to all the bulbs using Zigbee, then you talk to the base station via a device connected to your network.

sounds useful but i have to disagree with the decision to put bill cosby in charge of the branding team

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Agean90 posted:

this thread frowns ion embracing cyberpunk poo poo but if cyber eyes become a thing I'm totally gonna get one because my left eye is poo poo

I'm gonna hack your eye and send goatse directly to your optic nerve

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


bloom posted:

I'm gonna hack your eye and send goatse directly to your optic nerve

you say that like it's a bad thing

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

bloom posted:

I'm gonna hack your eye and send goatse directly to your optic nerve

I look forward to this. Giving someone the 'ol goateye

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



to continue using this cyber eyeball please prove you are not a robot by identifying which of these pictures have traffic lights

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


getting into a car crash cause my eye suddenly connected to some random laptop cam that was in Bluetooth range so the last thing I see before I die is some fat shutin masterbating to anime porn instead of oncoming traffic

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

bloom posted:

I'm gonna hack your eye and send goatse directly to your optic nerve

Your cybereyes could have an augmented reality feature that just overwrites the people you look at with the goatman

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Teal posted:

I have a "smart" bulb from IKEA for my room in my rented apartment

it came with a little round battery powered thingy with 5 buttons (brighter, less bright, warmer, less warm, and on-off toggle)

I end up basically cycling between WHITEST BRIGHT when cleaning and dimmest yellowest any other time

it does literally everything I'd ever want from a light, it doesn't interface with anything other than the bulb socket, and it won't obsolete until the LED elements in it burn out

Until you lose the remote.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



i have a new high tech lightbulb with a remote control but in order to make sure i dont lose the remote i have grafted in into the wall by the door

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Shear Modulus posted:

i have a new high tech lightbulb with a remote control but in order to make sure i dont lose the remote i have grafted in into the wall by the door

Get this; you can actually buy wall-mountable light switches for Hue bulbs. The switch harvests energy from button presses to send the command to your base station, so they need no batteries. The whole Hue world of lights and accessories is a buckwild rabbit hole for me to discover this close to middle age.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

well its not like getting a new remote from IKEA would be some herculean effort, and you can still just use them like regular light bulbs in the interim


however I will say that proper integration with all major phone operating systems is one of the nicer aspects of the Hue, b/c you don't need another piece of hardware to serve as the remote


e: though yes the switches are also really nice because you can do things like mount them to the side of a cabinet/bookshelf to get an adjustable light switch somewhere where wiring it would likely be infeasible

LGD has issued a correction as of 20:02 on Oct 21, 2019

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
LPT: Mount your remotes on the wall next to the entrance to each room.

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)

Agean90 posted:

this thread frowns ion embracing cyberpunk poo poo but if cyber eyes become a thing I'm totally gonna get one because my left eye is poo poo

I'm going to get IoT boobs and no one can stop me

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

mysterious frankie posted:

Yeah. They’re fairly secure.

presuming you're patched up

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
My parents bought a TV that eavesdrops on us and records everything we say and connected it to our wifi because they are much smarter than me.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

foobardog posted:

I'm going to get IoT boobs and no one can stop me

Power pasties all the way (possibly :nws: if your boss is very prudish)

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]
Hmm well my lightbulb is mining bitcoins and my television sends recordings directly to Xi Jinping, nothing to worry about really.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Agean90 posted:

this thread frowns ion embracing cyberpunk poo poo but if cyber eyes become a thing I'm totally gonna get one because my left eye is poo poo

I mean, you could probably get it lasered.

Well, you probably can't, since it's an expensive elective surgery, but that counts the same for eyeball replacement.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Tubgoat posted:

My parents bought a TV that eavesdrops on us and records everything we say and connected it to our wifi because they are much smarter than me.

1984 was a documentary

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Cyber eye installation will absolutely be available from affordable street vendors when they become available. It will be a lot like when the guy gets a skull gun installed in Diamond Age.

boethius
Jul 10, 2001

Space bunnies have three ears

withak posted:

Cyber eye installation will absolutely be available from affordable street vendors when they become available. It will be a lot like when the guy gets a skull gun installed in Diamond Age.

diamond age was a documentary

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Trabisnikof posted:

presuming you're patched up

They automatically update if you allow it.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


SlothfulCobra posted:

I mean, you could probably get it lasered.

Well, you probably can't, since it's an expensive elective surgery, but that counts the same for eyeball replacement.

I would rather lose an eye than get to get strapped to a table an have a laser shot in my eye like the worlds shittiest version of James Bond

yes I know it's dumb. no I don't care

other people
Jun 27, 2004
Associate Christ
you can get multifocal lens implants these days like for cataract surgery so if your eyeball really sucks you really can have the important bit replaced with a synthetic enhancement.

it comes with a knob that sticks out of your face to allow you to easily select between three different focal lengths.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Agean90 posted:

I would rather lose an eye than get to get strapped to a table an have a laser shot in my eye like the worlds shittiest version of James Bond

yes I know it's dumb. no I don't care

Getting Lasik was probably the best decision I ever made. It sucks now that I'm getting old and I need to have reading glasses but for twenty years just being able to see perfectly was so great. It cost so little as to be nothing, took maybe five minutes and after I woke up I could see perfectly with no pain and no side effects.

I should note I have a thing about eyes. I can't think about them, they gross me out, and I could never do a contact lens. I can't even watch someone put in a contact lens without getting queasy and I had no trouble getting the surgery. I highly recommend it.

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

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LastInLine posted:

Getting Lasik was probably the best decision I ever made. It sucks now that I'm getting old and I need to have reading glasses but for twenty years just being able to see perfectly was so great. It cost so little as to be nothing, took maybe five minutes and after I woke up I could see perfectly with no pain and no side effects.

I should note I have a thing about eyes. I can't think about them, they gross me out, and I could never do a contact lens. I can't even watch someone put in a contact lens without getting queasy and I had no trouble getting the surgery. I highly recommend it.

How did it cost so little as to be nothing? I always see it advertised for thousands of dollars.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Also how did they even let you get knocked out? Everyone I hear from says you have to be awake and they numb your eye with liquid cocaine. Nooooooooooooooooooooo thank you to literally any of that.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




My brother-in-law got Lasik and now cannot drive at night due to all the lights being blurred. And apparently this is a common side effect? Put me right off.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


my only experience with Hue bulbs is my cousin yelling into his Alexa room names, bulb numbers, and colors while his wife kept asking him to stop changing the lights until she was finished cooking. If I want to control anything in my house I'm buying cheap, old pro control equipment like I use at work and do serial or IP control from there on its own airgapped network. Meets DoD standards, so it's probably at least secure enough to be random rear end in a top hat proof.

CharlestheHammer posted:

everything is the same thing if you think about it
all star stuff.

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ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Day Man posted:

How did it cost so little as to be nothing? I always see it advertised for thousands of dollars.

I want to say less than a thousand twenty years ago, whatever that works out to after inflation. Part of me wants to say $700 but even back then I know it wasn't the cheapest place being advertised.

Necrothatcher posted:

My brother-in-law got Lasik and now cannot drive at night due to all the lights being blurred. And apparently this is a common side effect? Put me right off.

I work overnight and only really drive at night. I had halos for a few months for sure but never full-on night blindness. I'm sure it's worse for some and better for others but all that went away for me. Probably the two most annoying things were avoiding getting water near your eyes in the shower for a few months after the surgery and the smell which they really should warn you about.

Honestly the best depiction of what it's like is probably the Home Movies depiction. All of it's true, the sketchiness of the doctors, the outrageously low prices, the frivolity with which it's all handled despite it being pretty serious, the video they make you watch that doesn't tell you anything, and the smell. I mean this really is exactly what it's like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W-DtIAzWVc

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