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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

https://twitter.com/MrRichardMiller/status/1186520797113913349?s=20

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


marktheando posted:

Just read the last few pages, I see the English are at it again

Ash Crimson is Scottish though?

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

Donald Tusk posted:

My last words @Europarl_EN: Thank you for your responsible position on #Brexit and extension. After what I have heard in this chamber today, I have no doubt that we should treat the British request for extension in all seriousness.

Hahahahaha, burn.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




BizarroAzrael posted:

I quite like the guy mostly, but he used his platform to push melt politics so this is sweet:

I am a bit confused by the DUP member Dara O'Briain. Dara isn't even British far less a DUP member.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

BizarroAzrael posted:

I quite like the guy mostly, but he used his platform to push melt politics so this is sweet:

https://twitter.com/MrRichardMiller/status/1186531237437022208?s=19

Clicked that guy's profile and inexplicably found the greatest Phil greaves tweet

https://twitter.com/PhilGreaves01/status/606781568091324416?s=19

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

gh0stpinballa posted:

do many of those uk twitter accounts post on here

I unfortunately live in the uk and I have a twitter account I use for swearing at tories does that count

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Aramoro posted:

I am a bit confused by the DUP member Dara O'Briain. Dara isn't even British far less a DUP member.
:can: Neither are the DUP :can:

ThomasPaine posted:

Clicked that guy's profile and inexplicably found the greatest Phil greaves tweet

https://twitter.com/PhilGreaves01/status/606781568091324416?s=19
It's a type of centrism. Mao cum in the middle.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
why is lisa nandy so horny for an insanely hard brexit

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Guavanaut posted:

It's a type of centrism. Mao cum in the middle.

Don't know whether to :vince: or t:mad: at you for this

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

marktheando posted:

Just read the last few pages, I see the English are at it again

The thread is so touchy about nationalism in particular, if the general argument was that all white people are scum or that all men deserve to die, you might have one or two roll their eyes, but most would be in general agreement. Yet the same people feel being English is a position defensible enough to argue about.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Aramoro posted:

I am a bit confused by the DUP member Dara O'Briain. Dara isn't even British far less a DUP member.

I wouldn't be too surprised. Some people become very complicated :stare:

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

HJB posted:

The thread is so touchy about nationalism in particular, if the general argument was that all white people are scum or that all men deserve to die, you might have one or two roll their eyes, but most would be in general agreement. Yet the same people feel being English is a position defensible enough to argue about.

It's because deep down they know, and are projecting really hard

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

HJB posted:

The thread is so touchy about nationalism in particular, if the general argument was that all white people are scum or that all men deserve to die, you might have one or two roll their eyes, but most would be in general agreement. Yet the same people feel being English is a position defensible enough to argue about.

ah let me be clear, as an english person i can confirm there is nothing defensible about us

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

HJB posted:

if the general argument was that all white people are scum or that all men deserve to die, you might have one or two roll their eyes, but most would be in general agreement.

Citation very much needed. Performative generalisation like this seriously pisses me off and is a major problem on the left.

E: yes, free of the English the oppressed peoples must surely create the egalitarian utopia we dream of, just like *checks notes* Ireland!

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Oct 22, 2019

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

ThomasPaine posted:

Citation very much needed. Performative generalisation like this seriously pisses me off and is a major problem on the left.

E: yes, free of the English the oppressed peoples must surely create the egalitarian utopia we dream of, just like *checks notes* Ireland!

Ireland traded one oppressive regime (the English) for a potentially worse one (the Catholic Church)


Before i get gang piled on, this was tongue in cheek.

CyberPingu fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Oct 22, 2019

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

CyberPingu posted:

Ireland traded one oppressive regime (the English) for a potentially worse one (the Catholic Church)

Jesus christ man

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

CyberPingu posted:

Ireland traded one oppressive regime (the English) for a potentially worse one (the Catholic Church)

Well you'll get that when your major liberatory nationalist project is comprised largely of conservative Catholics and chucks out all the socialists.

Regardless, there's zero reason to believe an independent Scotland or Wales or loving Cornwall wouldn't end up just as much a neoliberal hellhole as the UK

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Coohoolin posted:

Jesus christ man

Yeah, him

The Deleter
May 22, 2010
This jesus bloke seems a bit dodgy to be honest

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

The Deleter posted:

This jesus bloke seems a bit dodgy to be honest

Got into the Brexit spirit early though. Wine too expensive to import? Not a problem.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

His Divine Shadow posted:

Oh the stenmurkla.

Note to thread, this one is dangerous, a single mushroom is enough to kill you. Boiling (thrice) has been traditionally used to make it safe though lately many consider it simply inedible nowadays, because it has killed experienced people even though they prepared it correctly. I read a personal account of one who had eaten it for 30 years and still got poisoned one day, later he found out the toxin concentration can vary immensely between individual mushrooms and so some can be dangerous even though they have been treated.

Even in non lethal doses the toxin is a carcinogen too.

Right, there I am trying to push mushroom onto fearful internet people, and of course I bring up esculenta. I can't help it, it may be an rear end in a top hat mushroom and its era of being regarded a food shroom is decidedly running out, but it's just so very pretty. I don't pick it or eat it and I certainly wouldn't encourage anyone to do so, my appreciation for it is only aesthetic

Here are more mushroom pics



A well deep in the spruce woods? Kinda makes you listen for shrill horror film music

Many mushrooms grow in these witch's rings or whatever you might call them. I'm sure you've seen them on grassy lawns, starving the grass where the mushrooms grow. If you do, look out for a smallish gilled mushroom with a distinct smell of cloves, Marasmis oreades, a good urban food shroom


Here's an uncommon/rare chanterelle relative, the Craterellus (sometimes called Pseudocraterellus) undulatus. Chanterelles and relatives have this weird naming scheme where the ones that don't have hollow "foots" get the family name Cantharellus, while the ones that are hollow are called Craterellus. What makes this one "pseudo"? My guess:


it's kinda hollow, but not as hollow as its genuinely hollow cousins

Here's a very cute baby toadstool


very likely a young Amanita muscaria. In parts of the world, it's eaten for tripping, in others, it's eaten for food. In others of course we steer clear of it

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

The Deleter posted:

This jesus bloke seems a bit dodgy to be honest
dark skin, beard, trying to change our culture. hmm. why is no-one in the MSM talking about this?

The Deleter
May 22, 2010

CGI Stardust posted:

dark skin, beard, trying to change our culture. hmm. why is no-one in the MSM talking about this?

Don't worry, we'll just pretend he's white and it'll be fine.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

The Deleter posted:

This jesus bloke seems a bit dodgy to be honest

The original developer promised a 2.0 version ages ago and we're just waiting around for it to sort out all the current issues.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

ThomasPaine posted:

Citation very much needed. Performative generalisation like this seriously pisses me off and is a major problem on the left.

E: yes, free of the English the oppressed peoples must surely create the egalitarian utopia we dream of, just like *checks notes* Ireland!

see for me the biggest problems with the uk left are that it's intensely naval gazing, self-pitying and can be incredibly humourless. like a bit of playful bants about how poo poo the english are gets met with proper sour responses. plus barely anybody in the uk left gives a poo poo about international affairs and when you raise yemen or syria and what we're doing in those countries people all but say they don't give a gently caress or they just assume the msm take is broadly correct. these are supposed to be internationalists too lol

i mean fair play to places like novara or trashfuture which at least talk about stuff outside the usual boring cycle of brexit/"melts"/poo poo labour MPs/how awful the commentariat and rachel riley are. all that poo poo is good for one or two yuks but it won't nourish your brain or inspire the mind, you know?

not even a huge fan of either novara or TF but i think it helps that they have diverse hosts who therefore don't obsess about the same dreary garbage all the time, idk.

gh0stpinballa fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Oct 22, 2019

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

jabby posted:

The only reason ACAB works is that even the 'nice' cops are still choosing to be agents of the state who primarily defend the rich from the poor.
So what's the alternative if someone is motivated by wanting to stop street crime? Don a loving cape?

The detatched analysis might come out showing that the overall effect of the police is to protect the rich from the poor, but don't pretend for one second that this is anyone's motivation in joining the force.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

namesake posted:

The original developer promised a 2.0 version ages ago and we're just waiting around for it to sort out all the current issues.

There's been a few major patches since then, mostly restricting features. The user base is a bit divided over which revision to use.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



I think the challenge many will face when arguing against Scottish nationalism now is that while previously the only real ground it stood on was exceptionalism and nostalgia it now has appeal as a utilitarian argument based on Westminster being truly awful for the forseeable and doing real harm to Scottish people. By illustration (I know they are not equivalent, shut up) few here would argue against a free Palestine.

At the moment I doubt I would vote for an independent Scotland if the opportunity arose but I feel closer to doing so than ever before.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

HJB posted:

The thread is so touchy about nationalism in particular, if the general argument was that all white people are scum or that all men deserve to die, you might have one or two roll their eyes, but most would be in general agreement. Yet the same people feel being English is a position defensible enough to argue about.
If you say "I'm English not British" into a mirror three times at midnight, John Milton appears and turns you white while ranting about the Norman yoke.

Coohoolin posted:

Jesus christ man
I remember my English teacher, who was Irish*, claiming that the Catholic Church was the second worst thing to happen to Ireland bar the British Army, and it wasn't for lack of trying from Rome. It became really unpopular really quickly after the discovery of the mass graves and abuse at the Magdalene Laundries was uncovered in the early 90s and there was a massive backlash, like an outpouring of pent up anti-clericalism, which I guess led directly to the recent marriage and abortion reform in Ireland.

*and therefore, I suppose, an English not British teacher :v:

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Zalakwe posted:

I think the challenge many will face when arguing against Scottish nationalism now is that while previously the only real ground it stood on was exceptionalism and nostalgia it now has appeal as a utilitarian argument based on Westminster being truly awful for the forseeable and doing real harm to Scottish people. By illustration (I know they are not equivalent, shut up) few here would argue against a free Palestine.

At the moment I doubt I would vote for an independent Scotland if the opportunity arose but I feel closer to doing so than ever before.

I voted No in the last Indy Ref but in a new one? I'm not so sure there are now a lot more compelling arguments to leave and become a small European nation.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Zalakwe posted:

I think the challenge many will face when arguing against Scottish nationalism now is that while previously the only real ground it stood on was exceptionalism and nostalgia it now has appeal as a utilitarian argument based on Westminster being truly awful for the forseeable and doing real harm to Scottish people. By illustration (I know they are not equivalent, shut up) few here would argue against a free Palestine.

At the moment I doubt I would vote for an independent Scotland if the opportunity arose but I feel closer to doing so than ever before.

Well that was certainly my position in the last indyref because we were neck deep in pre Corbyn hopelessness and an independent Scotland couldn't be worse and might gently caress off the right people. Corbyn changes things, and while labour is run by actual left wingers I'd be hesitant to vote for independence until I know how it all plays out

Plank Sanction
Nov 3, 2016

Who invented the skip?
Telling a bunch of people who already feel downtrodden, threatened and powerless by circumstances beyond their control are, in fact, actually worthless morons responsible for the state of the world because they were born the other side of an arbitrary line is loving indefensible.

Where is your solidarity?

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

kemikalkadet posted:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/8675690/Nicholas-Evans-I-wanted-to-die.-It-was-so-grim.html
This should be required reading before anyone goes foraging mushrooms.


It's a good idea to go on a guided forage with someone that knows what they're doing. I've been on a couple in woods near me and they're good fun. There's only a couple of wild mushrooms that I trust myself to ID and eat though.

It's certainly a good idea to have a decent amount of respect for the mushrooms, and us who think they know some mushrooms do our best to discourage excess enthusiasm in beginners. That being said, if you go out looking for these


And come home with a basket of these


you're nowhere close to the "knowledgeable outdoorsman" you think you are, and in fact should probably never be allowed outdoors at all. And to feed them to your family? Yeesh.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
it is exclusionary for my favourite kind of argument to happen at 0200 on a work night. unfair.

HJB posted:

The thread is so touchy about nationalism in particular,
yes it’s this thread that started the nationalist/leftist conflict. it’s a little known fact that Rosa Luxemburg got her start shitposting in LF.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1186591257579134977?s=20

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Bobby Deluxe posted:

So what's the alternative if someone is motivated by wanting to stop street crime? Don a loving cape?

The detatched analysis might come out showing that the overall effect of the police is to protect the rich from the poor, but don't pretend for one second that this is anyone's motivation in joining the force.

join a charity or protest or something that tries to work on ending poverty. stop the crime from needing to happen, if you actually care about there being less crime and don't just want to beat up a darkie for being near* a shoplifting

*within three square miles of

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.

namesake posted:

The original developer promised a 2.0 version ages ago and we're just waiting around for it to sort out all the current issues.

how do we know he hasn't already shown up and promptly got sectioned off into a mental ward? Any bloke taking himself earnestly seriously and claiming to make wine from water and coming back from the dead is going to have a visit from the services

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Guavanaut posted:

If you say "I'm English not British" into a mirror three times at midnight, John Milton appears and turns you white while ranting about the Norman yoke.

I remember my English teacher, who was Irish*, claiming that the Catholic Church was the second worst thing to happen to Ireland bar the British Army, and it wasn't for lack of trying from Rome. It became really unpopular really quickly after the discovery of the mass graves and abuse at the Magdalene Laundries was uncovered in the early 90s and there was a massive backlash, like an outpouring of pent up anti-clericalism, which I guess led directly to the recent marriage and abortion reform in Ireland.

*and therefore, I suppose, an English not British teacher :v:



I mean yeah the catholic church was awful to ireland but "hurrr maybe they shouldn't have abandoned Glorious Britane for their papist ways" is a hell of a take.

Btw, where did the left tube thread go?

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006


It seems so insane now that Sinéad O'Connor was like one of the most hated people on the planet for doing that lol

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Aug 8, 2007






forkboy84 posted:

Ash Crimson is Scottish though?
*Scotch

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