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It does seem like Harris snatched up all the Clinton strategy people though, because her campaign has been nothing if not Hillary 3.0. Warren's dumb ideas are more team Obama.
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harris 2020 is reminiscent of clinton 2016 because they are both unfocused campaigns with no core vision beyond "our candidate should be president." it isn't so much a common strategy as a common failing.
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I know it's not the biggest issue facing our country, but imo an underrated benefit of Kamala's campaign imploding just like anyone who was paying attention knew it would, is that the people who spent last year smugposting about how she has it in the bag, seem to have completely stopped posting out of embarrassment.
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I still run into the wrath of the KHive from time to time
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khive just constaintly complain that harris is "being erased by the media," although i would argue that she has just not done anything worth writing about in weeks
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Does the khive contain any real people? Virtually everything I come across online seems like it's either bot driven or from a sock puppet campaign account. Which, by all means, is entirely on brand with the candidate.
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Concerned Citizen posted:khive just constaintly complain that harris is "being erased by the media," that seems like the best thing possible for her campaign though?
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Concerned Citizen posted:harris 2020 is reminiscent of clinton 2016 because they are both unfocused campaigns with no core vision beyond "our candidate should be president." it isn't so much a common strategy as a common failing. Do you remember when Hillary Clinton was massively in favor of the TPP, but when it turned out the TPP was massively unpopular Clinton flipped around and said it was bad and just kinda hoped nobody would remember the past? That's Kamala's whole campaign.
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VitalSigns posted:I know it's not the biggest issue facing our country, but imo an underrated benefit of Kamala's campaign imploding just like anyone who was paying attention knew it would, is that the people who spent last year smugposting about how she has it in the bag, seem to have completely stopped posting out of embarrassment. i am a fan of a college football team that is bad. our offensive coordinator usually puts together a solid first and second quarter, but the observation has been made that the halftime pep talk is a table full of raw cookie dough and shots of Jack. we get a lead together, and then we spend the second half blowing it. it is nice to watch it happen to someone else.
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Gripweed posted:Do you remember when Hillary Clinton was massively in favor of the TPP, but when it turned out the TPP was massively unpopular Clinton flipped around and said it was bad and just kinda hoped nobody would remember the past? That's Kamala's whole campaign. Except Harris likes to occasionally mix it up and start somewhere popular, then when people notice she runs to the opposite position and acts like she always preferred the thing no one likes.
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Gripweed posted:Do you remember when Hillary Clinton was massively in favor of the TPP, but when it turned out the TPP was massively unpopular Clinton flipped around and said it was bad and just kinda hoped nobody would remember the past? That's Kamala's whole campaign. That was actually way way better than Kamala's campaign. The Kamala campaign would be if Hillary came out stridently against TPP, attacked anyone who supported it, said that she wouldn't be standing here today if TPP had existed when she was a child, and then the next morning said "oh wait Anderson, did you say TPP?! Whoopsie I thought you said PCP, my bad, yeah I love TPP!" and then did the exact same thing at the next debate.
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Well, good to see he's locked up the Scottish primary.
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Concerned Citizen posted:turns out you shouldn't let your sister run your presidential campaign 
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Foreign interference!!!
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https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1186416471041302528 Hill folk are desperate to keep the Weinstein stories from catching on. https://twitter.com/MikeGravel/status/1186609740341579781 
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The Tulsi thing is a cool reminder how 100% of the mainstream liberal foreign policy people who have spent the last 15 years swearing up and down they're not down with the neocon regime change stuff anymore have been lying through their teeth. Not that we needed a reminder, but it's nice to have one now and then
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When did Scotland get a labour party? I heard it died after getting endorsed by Rowling.
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Epicurius posted:Well, good to see he's locked up the Scottish primary. It reminds me of back in 2008 when Obama was popular overseas.
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Eschenique posted:When did Scotland get a labour party? I heard it died after getting endorsed by Rowling. The Previous Scottish Labour leader was some Blairite who sunk the party and helped Brexit.
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"Medicare For All will never work because polling shows most Americans love private insurance"
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Gripweed posted:It reminds me of back in 2008 when Obama was popular overseas. I'm just not convinced that an endorsement by a foreign political leader moves the needle much. How many American Democrats even know who the Scottish Labour Party leader even is, let alone care what US presidential candidate he endorses?
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Scotland was previously a Labour stronghold but they hosed themselves by working with the tories in the Scottish independence referendum, betraying their voters. So the anti-Tory vote and independence vote switched to the Scottish Nationalist Party (nominally center-left), seizing their devolved parliament and taking 40 seats from Labour in the House of Commons. Regional parties can be very strong in First Past The Post (see the Quebec party's wins in last night's Canadian election) so in the 2015 general election they took 50 off 53 seats, with each of the 3 major parties taking 1 seat, as the unionist vote while a majority was divided in 3. They could not have done better. The SNP lost some ground in 2017 (but still have a majority of seats) but it looks like they will sweep again in the next election. The Scottish Labour party is a rump party. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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Isn't this literally calling Bernie a fellow traveler? As in, Bernie said a thing, and some Russians also said that thing, therefore he's a Russian sympathizer? The primary hasn't touched on foreign policy much, but if it ever does, this line of attack will be used against Sanders, won't it? Oh you don't want to liberate Venezuela or whatever, you must be a Russian stooge.
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Epicurius posted:I'm just not convinced that an endorsement by a foreign political leader moves the needle much. How many American Democrats even know who the Scottish Labour Party leader even is, let alone care what US presidential candidate he endorses? It's not going to move the needle, but it's a nice thing to see. A lot of the success of Bernie's agenda is going to depend on cooperation from foreign leaders who share his objectives on things like trade, immigration, and especially fighting climate change.
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Epicurius posted:I'm just not convinced that an endorsement by a foreign political leader moves the needle much. How many American Democrats even know who the Scottish Labour Party leader even is, let alone care what US presidential candidate he endorses? Not everything is about moving the needle.
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Remember when the British left wing opposition leader reached out to AOC and she rebuffed him because some rando tweeted at her that he was an antisemite.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Isn't this literally calling Bernie a fellow traveler? As in, Bernie said a thing, and some Russians also said that thing, therefore he's a Russian sympathizer? Oh completely. It is obvious that they're going to be calling (lower case) bernie sanders a (lower case) russian (lower case) asset as soon as the race narrows.
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Gripweed posted:It reminds me of back in 2008 when Obama was popular overseas. Electing Bernie Sanders, and a congress that supports his cause, would certainly be the best start to redeeming yourself after Trump. Like, we're not gonna fully trust you for the next couple of decades in any case, but after Obama you need to do more than just put the mask back on.
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https://twitter.com/MamaCoffeeCat/status/1186457305551761408 I swear to god
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Eschenique posted:Remember when the British left wing opposition leader reached out to AOC and she rebuffed him because some rando tweeted at her that he was an antisemite. Read this for a surprise guest appearance. she's big into those glorified 'feminist' country clubs with 2k a month memberships that sprung up during hillary's run.
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The Clintons are radioactive now. There is no way she runs. If she was going to do it, it would have been a while ago. But she probably wants to start getting some pundit time and being a power player in another way.
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She'd take votes away from both Biden and Warren and would basically be the one thing to completely guarantee that Bernie gets the nomination or that Trump gets reelected if she somehow wins the primary What I'm getting at is that this timeline will never stop burning until the ashes break down into plasma
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Gripweed posted:Not everything is about moving the needle. When you're running for president, it is.
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Brony Car posted:The Clintons are radioactive now. There is no way she runs. If she was going to do it, it would have been a while ago. I can completely image that the Clintons would be imagining that since there's no one anywhere near a majority of support, She can descend from the heavens to once again proclaim it to be Her Turn, and we'll all go along because what's important right now is beating Trump But seriously, Cory Booker is gonna have to drop out because his girlfriend did a hate crime.
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Brony Car posted:The Clintons are radioactive now. There is no way she runs. If she was going to do it, it would have been a while ago. yea she probably just wants to be a kingmaker with this as her saying 'here's what I want you to say if you want my nod' but just her trying to shove into 2020 at all is giving me a mild ulcer. Go awaaaaaaay!
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https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rosario-dawson-her-family-sued-over-alleged-transphobic-assault-n1069756 quote:A transgender man alleges that actor Rosario Dawson and her family subjected him to transphobic harassment and violent abuse, according to a suit filed in a Los Angeles court. lol jesus christ gently caress these people
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