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1redflag posted:Like, what are the complexities that are preventing you from agreeing with the former statement? Your organisation is receiving a billion dollars a year in revenue from the repressors.
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1redflag posted:I mean, you are kind of a garbage person if you think the answer to “stop repressing basic human rights” is “well, it’s complicated.” Like, what are the complexities that are preventing you from agreeing with the former statement? The fact that historically humanity has been pretty godawful at agreeing on exactly what basic human rights are? I know we're specifically referencing the actions of the Chinese government here, and yes, they're a horrifying bunch of despots. Just do consider that plenty of people -- if not most people -- in the US think that "owning guns" is a "basic human right", a stance which almost every other nation in the world regards as completely loving nuts.
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Ooooh the gun control hard counter. This thread is in for it.
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Can you please stop hurting the feelings of the Chinese people?
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Stick to what you're good at. Sportsmen keep playing sports, and I'll keep doing nothing.
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This thread had a good run. Someone start a new one.
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value-brand cereal posted:This thread had a good run. Someone start a new one. Be the change you wish to see in the world
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On sportspeople speaking out about political/social stuff: The trouble is "I'm sorry, I don't know enough about the situation to give an informed answer." is not an answer being given enough. Nor an answer that would be respected enough. Either by the person asking the initial question, nor by the thousands of 'experts' that will jump on them whatever they say. So yeah, telling them to "stick to sports" is a cop out, and is generally used by butthurt people who disagree with someone voicing an opinion. But to the person in the public eye/firing line, it is probably safer to say as little as possible.
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If you feel that way, tho, you can just say “no comment”. Like, it’s that easy. Saying “well, I don’t know enough to say anything, and neither does that other person”, is trying to have your cake and eat it too. E. I never said it would isolate you from criticism. Brother Tadger has a new favorite as of 21:30 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Oct 24, 2019 19:57
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People did say no comment and they were treated basically the same way as James is now
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CharlestheHammer posted:People did say no comment and they were treated basically the same way as James is now No comment? No, comment!
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It's not easy being white, it's not easy being brown etc. https://twitter.com/nuffsaidny/status/1187162672279764992
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Oct 26, 2019 06:32
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Holy poo poo.
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It gets “better” when you start reading the replies. There’s someone in the comments that claims to be one of the people that created the campaign. Their argument is that these are all things that these athletes said out of a list of things describing themselves, so it’s okay. Completely missing the point that that’s probably worse because whoever made the graphics intentionally picked “this is my career” for the white people and “lol I’m black” for the black people out of a list of other, more appropriate stuff.
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Joey Freshwater posted:It gets “better” when you start reading the replies. There’s someone in the comments that claims to be one of the people that created the campaign. Their argument is that these are all things that these athletes said out of a list of things describing themselves, so it’s okay. Deadspin did an article on this that also includes what the black students' opening lines that these were pulled from actually were. The guy's line was “I am a brother, uncle and best of all, I am a leader,” which gives you some decent pulls but nothing related to profession, and I could see a graphic designer pulling 'brother' from that. But the girl's was “I am an African-American woman, a sister, a daughter and a future physical therapist”, so they've got no excuse there.
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Cleretic posted:Deadspin did an article on this that also includes what the black students' opening lines that these were pulled from actually were. The guy's line was “I am a brother, uncle and best of all, I am a leader,” which gives you some decent pulls but nothing related to profession, and I could see a graphic designer pulling 'brother' from that. But the girl's was “I am an African-American woman, a sister, a daughter and a future physical therapist”, so they've got no excuse there. 
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They might as well have just put "surprisingly articulate" on there.
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Splicer posted:"I am a leader" would have been just fine, wonder why they didn't use it I was trying to look at it from the perspective of 'maybe they aren't racist, maybe they're just stupid'. I could see a college media student getting all these back, seeing one guy not mention any future occupations whatsoever like he's using for everyone else, and going 'oh gently caress, what do I do here, uhhh, okay he opened with brother so that's probably important to him let's go with that'. Sure, leader would probably be better, but there's not-racist logic you can apply here! But then you look at what the girl provided and it all falls apart, nope, the guy behind this is pretty poo poo.
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Cleretic posted:I was trying to look at it from the perspective of 'maybe they aren't racist, maybe they're just stupid'. I could see a college media student getting all these back, seeing one guy not mention any future occupations whatsoever like he's using for everyone else, and going 'oh gently caress, what do I do here, uhhh, okay he opened with brother so that's probably important to him let's go with that'. Sure, leader would probably be better, but there's not-racist logic you can apply here! They probably think they're being a woke progressive ally just by publicly showing a black person doing a thing.
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Cleretic posted:I was trying to look at it from the perspective of 'maybe they aren't racist, maybe they're just stupid'. I could see a college media student getting all these back, seeing one guy not mention any future occupations whatsoever like he's using for everyone else, and going 'oh gently caress, what do I do here, uhhh, okay he opened with brother so that's probably important to him let's go with that'. Sure, leader would probably be better, but there's not-racist logic you can apply here! I try not to attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence/laziness. So the other option is a lazy/stupid intern/student just took the first sentence they wrote, and it that sentence was too long, the first part of that sentence. Coz they couldn't be arsed to do any more work than they absolutely had to. Although, this explanation is being very generous, and doesn't take into account the white kids talk about their jobs and the non-white kids talk about their race. (I know the dude didn't talk about his race, but it was edited to make it look like he did.)
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https://twitter.com/BP_plc/status/1186645440621531136 This strategy and tweet was bad enough, but they're actually responding to people in the thread. lol
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BrigadierSensible posted:I try not to attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence/laziness. I get what you're saying -- as in, I'm not immediately assuming this was a diabolical plot they cooked up while a cross burned in the background -- but a lot of times, racism is laziness. It's being too lazy to consider that the scales are already tipped and the default option might not be neutral. It's taking offense at the idea that all the work hasn't already been done.
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I can’t even figure out what the intended message was. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t promoting suicide. All of my firearm experience comes from video games, but apparently the kind of weapon that fires .50 cal ammo would be unwieldy for a suicide, so... 
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HerStuddMuffin posted:I can’t even figure out what the intended message was. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t promoting suicide. All of my firearm experience comes from video games, but apparently the kind of weapon that fires .50 cal ammo would be unwieldy for a suicide, so... I think it's just supposed to be a dark joke about shooting people that fails at every level.
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HerStuddMuffin posted:I can’t even figure out what the intended message was. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t promoting suicide. All of my firearm experience comes from video games, but apparently the kind of weapon that fires .50 cal ammo would be unwieldy for a suicide, so... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkiDguYtGw still true though
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I dunno, a point blank 50 cal round sounds like a good way to ensure you're going to be dead. Listen, if I'm going out by .50 cal there better be a Russian lady on the other end, a mile away.
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Beachcomber posted:Listen, if I'm going out by .50 cal there better be a Russian lady on the other end, a mile away. Are you a Nazi, a Ukrainian, or a large and juicy fruit?
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Ego-bot posted:https://twitter.com/BP_plc/status/1186645440621531136 That's some serious well actuallying
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Remember when Deepwater Horizon shat all over the Gulf of Mexico and certain people had the temerity say that Obama’s reference to “British Petroleum” was racist?
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Oct 28, 2019 13:13
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It's like when they tried to pretend KFC didn't stand for Kentucky Fried Chicken.
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KFC did that in Australia, re-branded all their stores to just "KFC" after they had been Kentucky Fried Chicken forever. They didn't want to be associated with fries chicken being super not healthy, I think. It flopped, of course, because people don't go to KFC for anything other than a salty grease nightmare.
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They are just KFC in the united states for like two decades now. But I never see standalone KFCs either. It's always combined with Taco Bell.
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Splicer posted:https://twitter.com/BP_plc/status/1186652967757369344 It reminds me of one of my favorite articles from The Onion.
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Memento posted:KFC did that in Australia, re-branded all their stores to just "KFC" after they had been Kentucky Fried Chicken forever. They didn't want to be associated with fries chicken being super not healthy, I think. It flopped, of course, because people don't go to KFC for anything other than a salty grease nightmare. I don't think it was any elaborate thing about not wanting to be associated with fried chicken or anything, especially since if you dig deeper they're all about their Kentucky history and the original restaurant in Corbin is a KFC museum now that has a replica of the original kitchen and motel room on the site (it's actually pretty neat). People had just been calling it "KFC" for decades because the whole name is a mouthful, so they rebranded to what everyone already called it.
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No, they literally announced in 1991 that they were ditching the word "fried" in an attempt to re-brand as a healthier option. Edit: https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...248cc54551275a7 quote:Kentucky Fried Chicken, founded in 1930, abruptly dumped its full name in favour of its initials in 1991. Memento has a new favorite as of 03:11 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Mu Zeta posted:They are just KFC in the united states for like two decades now. But I never see standalone KFCs either. It's always combined with Taco Bell. They definitely exist. There's two near me in CA. In Pittsburgh, we were blessed with the rare KenTacoHut  I say blessed, but I've never actually eaten Taco Bell and my streak is too long to give up easily now.
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Taco Bell is actually acknowledged as the healthiest option of the fast food franchises Do not confuse this for a genuine defense of taco bell
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