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The Glumslinger posted:I assume it was about Trump looking for Mulvaney replacements, with leading candidates being Kellyane Conway and Mnuchin yep
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https://twitter.com/emmakinery/status/1186703053912727558?s=21 A substitute link
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https://twitter.com/mateagold/status/1186714228712976391 Not only was there Quid Pro Quo, part of the Quid Pro Quo was Ukraine making a public direction of the fact that it was indeed Quid Pro Quo. These people are so loving stupid.
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https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1186700338453241857 https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1186712749524606978 https://twitter.com/derekwillis/status/1186713165284990976 https://twitter.com/oliver_drk/status/1186367470187233280
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Dapper_Swindler posted:conway would be smart enough to just make angry sounds and not admit all the crimes. mnchin who the gently caress knows. Meatball posted:Is this a cannon or a trebuchet? Maybe one of those giant acme slingshots....
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Oct 22, 2019 20:03
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I still want to know who it is because every possible answer is really funny
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kitten smoothie posted:https://twitter.com/emmakinery/status/1186703053912727558?s=21 The fact that all he can do is replace incompetent henchman with more incompetent henchmen is amazing No one with any sanity left wants anything to do with him, even with the prospect of becoming one of the most powerful people in Washington Amazing
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At this point, I'm just waiting for the Republicans to come out and say "Look, this is about winning 2020. Winning here is all that matters, and it doesn't matter how you win as long as you win." Because that's what they honestly believe.
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KillHour posted:At this point, I'm just waiting for the Republicans to come out and say "Look, this is about winning 2020. Winning here is all that matters, and it doesn't matter how you win as long as you win." That's why they support Trump He won when they weren't supposed to be able to win. That's it.
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Oct 22, 2019 20:11
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i mean gently caress them but more dirt is always funny.
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Oct 22, 2019 20:12
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KillHour posted:At this point, I'm just waiting for the Republicans to come out and say "Look, this is about winning 2020. Winning here is all that matters, and it doesn't matter how you win as long as you win." It's been a nonstop deluge of poo poo, so I can't be 100% sure, but didn't someone literally say this was the case? Like, "we can't stop gerrymandering because if we do the democrats can win?" Like, that was there explicit reasoning for doing it, and also the supreme court said that it was okay? Am I making that up?
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kitten smoothie posted:https://twitter.com/emmakinery/status/1186703053912727558?s=21 Chief of staff Kellyanne Conway is way too good to be true She'll probably to kill george Conway to demonstrate how bad she wants it
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theflyingorc posted:I still want to know who it is because every possible answer is really funny It's 2019 so the answer is Kellyanne Conway wrote it.
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Ershalim posted:It's been a nonstop deluge of poo poo, so I can't be 100% sure, but didn't someone literally say this was the case? Like, "we can't stop gerrymandering because if we do the democrats can win?" Like, that was there explicit reasoning for doing it, and also the supreme court said that it was okay? Am I making that up? That is the literal argument for political gerrymandering - that to the victors go the spoils and if you want free elections, you should have elected people who wouldn't take them away from you. But I mean the literal crimes. "It's okay to accept help from Russia as long as we win. It's okay to break the emoluments clause as long as we win. It's okay to trade Ukrainian military aid for dirt on Biden as long as it helps us win." At some point, someone is going to say that and I honestly don't think it is going to change much.
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theflyingorc posted:I still want to know who it is because every possible answer is really funny I'm a shocking twist we find out that John Barron has joined the #resistance
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KillHour posted:That is the literal argument for political gerrymandering - that to the victors go the spoils and if you want free elections, you should have elected people who wouldn't take them away from you. Case in point Mulvaney saying last week, “elections have consequences”
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KillHour posted:That is the literal argument for political gerrymandering - that to the victors go the spoils and if you want free elections, you should have elected people who wouldn't take them away from you. Right, but wasn't the context for that that the state had specifically targeted black people as the focus of the gerrymander because they happened to vote democrats more than republicans? As far as I know, that is a crime. As for Ukraine, the GOP Fox party line is that it was good to do that. Most of them just don't think it's illegal because they don't have a concept of sovereignty that extends beyond absolute monarchy, but of the ones who do, they think it's a good, smart thing to do. (Since winning is the only thing that matters to them)
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Zwabu posted:This reinforces what I've always felt is the real value (to the GOP) and influence of Fox News. Yes this is exactly it and I've seen it first hand, the talking points are in-group language that signifies membership. It really has nothing to do with the talking points being valid, it's just the shared rubric. Not to be all /r/atheism but this is also how religions work, a shared set of beliefs that defy reason and binds together a group. It's not necessarily negative, you can have a shared group of shelter volunteers or leftists who share values and form a group. But it's much more pronounced in conservative and fascist circles though because both actively suppress free thought in favor of groupthink.
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Ershalim posted:Right, but wasn't the context for that that the state had specifically targeted black people as the focus of the gerrymander because they happened to vote democrats more than republicans? As far as I know, that is a crime. As for Ukraine, the GOP Fox party line is that it was good to do that. Most of them just don't think it's illegal because they don't have a concept of sovereignty that extends beyond absolute monarchy, but of the ones who do, they think it's a good, smart thing to do. (Since winning is the only thing that matters to them) There was both racial and political gerrymandering. The racial kind is illegal, so if you draw a map with race as a predominating factor, it’ll be thrown out. But if you’re halfway competent you won’t mention race in your discussions as the NC legislature did, instead you’ll do what they did after they got slapped for that and just talk about wanting “Democrats” to lose. Because scotus says that’s fine
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Republicans were right, there was no quid pro quo. Just 100% transparent bribery
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Sneaky Wombat posted:Holy loving poo poo. Yeeeeeeeah loving RIP shitheads
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Paradoxish posted:Yes, but polls like this are pretty good evidence of that effect in both directions. Whenever people talk about healthcare polling being sensitive to phrasing, they almost universally mean that people start to oppose single payer once you spell it out for them. Polling like this indicates what should have been pretty obvious: people love their healthcare plans not because those plans are good, but because they don't understand them. To be clear, I wasn't using that to say that single payer is actually unpopular, just that it's not exactly surprising that you can frame a poll in a way that makes employer insurance unpopular. I don't know if that actually marks a shift in public opinion or not, or if it just represents that poll.
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so this guy is the current ambassador...odds Trump obstructs some more justice and fires him?
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You know every time we get a dunk like this I get hopeful. Really want this to actually bring the whole house crashing down this time.
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Good thing they already tested “Actually, it was a legal quid pro quo”
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How long until we see a picture of someone handing Trump a burlap sack with a dollar sign on it?Arturo Ui posted:so this guy is the current ambassador...odds Trump obstructs some more justice and fires him? I don't see how that would obstruct justice seeing as he still has all his knowledge and firing him would remove State's ostensible ability to direct his conduct.
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This seems ominous and also lost in the noise https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/pentagon-draws-plans-quick-afghanistan-withdrawal-just-case-trump-blindsides-n1069611
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TyrantWD posted:After Schiff's nonsense about the Russia stuff where he claimed he had seen things that were so much more than a smoking gun, I'm skeptical about any Democrats claiming they have seen/heard something extremely damaging. You and ryde have been under a rock for few weeks, huh?
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haveblue posted:I don't see how that would obstruct justice seeing as he still has all his knowledge and firing him would remove State's ostensible ability to direct his conduct. they tried, he received a friendly subpoena so that he could tell them to pound sand
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haveblue posted:How long until we see a picture of someone handing Trump a burlap sack with a dollar sign on it? Because firing him would be in retribution for assisting law enforcement with a goal of ensuring others do not cooperate with law enforcement?
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oxsnard posted:Republicans were right, there was no quid pro quo. Closer to extortion I think
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haveblue posted:How long until we see a picture of someone handing Trump a burlap sack with a dollar sign on it? This is basically what got Spiro Agnew to resign.
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Ershalim posted:It's been a nonstop deluge of poo poo, so I can't be 100% sure, but didn't someone literally say this was the case? Like, "we can't stop gerrymandering because if we do the democrats can win?" Like, that was there explicit reasoning for doing it, and also the supreme court said that it was okay? Am I making that up? It brings to mind a quote from, I want say Trey Gowdy(?) in the lead up to the 2016 election where he flat-out admitted Benghazi hearing #236 was just to drag Hillary and depress her voter turnout. The ends always justify the means with these guys.
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