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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Do what? Give my opinions on things happening in real time like everyone else here? Probably. You always jump to conclusions and scream about how nothing matters and how the Democrats aren't going to do poo poo about anything
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evilweasel posted:i wouldn't go overboard with that, "someone" (assuredly a democrat) leaked the opening statement yesterday well before the depo was done. its the electronic devices that are real bad because then it's the russians/chinese deciding what's leaking out of the SCIF instead of (as usual) the reps At least they had the good sense to do it anonymously and via a backchannel rather than just tweeting it out under their own name (and then saying UHHHH *STAFF TWEET*) gently caress it I don't know.
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How bad must have Taylor's testimony been for them if they're escalating this hard this suddenly, though.
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wapo covering this the right way https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1187038738209234944 i can't bring myself to read what the nyt is saying
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Cabbit posted:How bad must have Taylor's testimony been for them if they're escalating this hard this suddenly, though. it was bad enough that the only response senate republicans have managed is that they refuse to comment until they get the stuff "officially" because perhaps the leaks were fake?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Data Graham posted:It doesn't EVEN matter A big deal to who? Who cares? Who gives a poo poo about this kind of thing in govt anymore?
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When they had the public hearings about the whistleblower, the GOP made a point to say that having them in public instead of behind closed doors was to make it a spectacle and to get media attention. And that never has a whistleblower complaint had public hearings about it. Now they do stuff behind closed doors and the GOP is saying that it is all in secret? WTF. I suppose they can just go back and forth on this stance and their base won't really care
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so the flow here is information in the SCIF -> mob of Republicans who aren’t supposed to be there -> some form of communication relaying the message to staff -> staff tweeting updates to the public why.... how is that better than them actually just straight up tweeting it. adding one layer of complication isn’t changing what’s happening lmao 
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Meh. Username + post
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There has to be a way they can remove these people or they will do this every day
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Willo567 posted:You always jump to conclusions and scream about how nothing matters and how the Democrats aren't going to do poo poo about anything I've said The Great Mattering is upon us for a while now. But I reserve the right to judge Democrats by their past behaviors until they take action to prove otherwise. I don't know for a fact that they'd allow an ignored subpoena to stand, for example, but they have before and that's what I base my prediction on. Same for everything else.
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Data Graham posted:It doesn't EVEN matter oh man the Russians might find out what toppings are on that pizza 
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Willo567 posted:You always jump to conclusions and scream about how nothing matters and how the Democrats aren't going to do poo poo about anything Surely there's a way to stop the Republicans from doing this?
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Cabbit posted:How bad must have Taylor's testimony been for them if they're escalating this hard this suddenly, though. Yeah, that's my main takeaway from this - Republicans appear to be extremely shook by yesterday's testimony.
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PIZZA.BAT posted:So they found a way to filibuster the investigation, then? Yes.
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Andronian posted:so the flow here is Forget it, they're rolling. Better answer: Government and laws are all performative pieces. Sov cits have the right idea but they're missing the key ingredient of "be really rich first"
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FlamingLiberal posted:There has to be a way they can remove these people or they will do this every day The GOP wants the spectacle. They are waiting for Schiff/etc to censure/remove them so they can make a big deal of it. As much as I would REALLY like the Sergeant-at-Arms to wade in there mace swinging, it's better long term to just let Gaetz be Gaetz and look like an idiot sitting in a secure room eating pizza and tweeting.
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The GOP reps also have to get something concrete in their hands to show it was worth the effort too. If they come out with nothing but wasted time they won’t flip anyone to their side.
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Willo567 posted:the Democrats aren't going to do poo poo about anything He isn't wrong.
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Nonsense posted:Surely there's a way to stop the Republicans from doing this? Welcome to 2019 you must be new here
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evilweasel posted:i think that while the hard-core GOP base is going to eat this up, as usual, the fact that they're blocking the deposition is going to be relatively damaging to them among anyone remotely pursuadable any day now, your republican co-workers will start thinking that tossing kids in cages and killing them for being brown is a deal-breaker, as opposed to the desired outcome. aaaaaany day now. all it will take is one more doughy-faced dipshit they went to college with demonstrating insufficient respect for the Process.
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bobjr posted:The GOP reps also have to get something concrete in their hands to show it was worth the effort too. If they come out with nothing but wasted time they won’t flip anyone to their side. do they?? wasn’t it already worth their effort to make a giant show and potentially stall the investigation? actually wait have they stalled the investigation over this or are they just letting them chill
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Is there a list of all the chucklefucks that blew into the scif?
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Nonsense posted:Surely there's a way to stop the Republicans from doing this? Sure - they'll most likely have additional security presence from now on to make sure these stunts don't happen again. All the Republicans accomplished here was to delay things by a day, at most.
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"We cannot afford to elect leaders who put American secrets and top-level information in jeopardy." - Representative Andy Biggs, October 26, 2016evilweasel posted:wapo covering this the right way "At one point, Rep. K. Michael Conaway (R-Texas), a senior member of the House Intelligence Committee, started to collect the Republicans’ phones, appearing to realize having the electronics there was a bad idea, Connolly said."
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:any day now, your republican co-workers will start thinking that tossing kids in cages and killing them for being brown is a deal-breaker, as opposed to the desired outcome. Your snarky response is not at all in conflict with the post that you replied to.
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Retro42 posted:The GOP wants the spectacle. They are waiting for Schiff/etc to censure/remove them so they can make a big deal of it. It's not just the spectacle, as a tactical matter they really would like to slow down all this incredibly incriminating testimony that keeps happening behind the closed doors they're ostensibly complaining about. Andronian posted:actually wait have they stalled the investigation over this or are they just letting them chill The former, I believe.
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Just put Maxine Waters the door next time. They will walk in her direction, she will point at them, and they will run away and file assault and battery lawsuits
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VitalSigns posted:oh man the Russians might find out what toppings are on that pizza I assure you that the Russians knew what toppings would be on that pizza months ago
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Andronian posted:do they?? wasn’t it already worth their effort to make a giant show and potentially stall the investigation? The deposition hasn't started yet and may not occur today. Personally, I don't view delaying the deposition by a day as damaging to the investigation and being able to focus the attention on this stunt being about blocking testimony is more helpful to dems than it is to republicans.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:"At one point, Rep. K. Michael Conaway (R-Texas), a senior member of the House Intelligence Committee, started to collect the Republicans’ phones, appearing to realize having the electronics there was a bad idea, Connolly said." Welp, there we have it. Never wrong to put money on the dumbest option, I guess.
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FlamingLiberal posted:There has to be a way they can remove these people or they will do this every day When I got my passport renewed at an American embassy in a western European country filled with white people, I had to empty all of my pockets and leave everything I had with me other than official paperwork in the security area, then go past a door of bulletproof glass and wait for the door to completely close behind me before they would open the next bulletproof glass door to the office area. We as a country are capable of keeping people out of secure areas if we want to.
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evilweasel posted:wapo covering this the right way This is a level of desperation we haven't seen before. They are panicking like crazy trying to stop this testimony.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Just put Maxine Waters the door next time. They will walk in her direction, she will point at them, and they will run away and file assault and battery lawsuits 
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Andronian posted:so the flow here is It's likely that the room(s) is shielded so phones wouldn't work even if they could keep them.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187063301731209220 Lol wonder what set him off here
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evilweasel posted:The deposition hasn't started yet and may not occur today. Personally, I don't view delaying the deposition by a day as damaging to the investigation and being able to focus the attention on this stunt being about blocking testimony is more helpful to dems than it is to republicans. The bigger worry is what they’re going to do next time, because if they can’t actually be removed today then they’re probably going to keep trying this. Maybe just keep a door locked, I dunno.
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evilweasel posted:The deposition hasn't started yet and may not occur today. Personally, I don't view delaying the deposition by a day as damaging to the investigation and being able to focus the attention on this stunt being about blocking testimony is more helpful to dems than it is to republicans. They're just trying to show loyalty to Trump at this point, I think
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Throw this along with all the other impeachment charges. This time supporting endangering national security. https://twitter.com/KevinWhitelaw1/status/1187062531950559233
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evilweasel posted:wapo covering this the right way https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1187060312920547328?s=19
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