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chestnut santabag posted:This could be interpreted as Labour MPs not supporting an GE specifically this very moment as the extension needs to be confirmed first but gently caress knows with these so called reporters and their "sources" Reporter: do you want an election Anonymous Labour MP: No- Reporter: excellent let's tweet that out Anonymous Labour MP: -until we get an extension from the EU which guarantees we won't crash out with no deal oh he hung up 
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Since we are posting about posting again, I'm an extremist lurker and here are my thoughts: This thread often feels like the last unbroken rung on the ladder of my life. Political news, my lovely job, personal matters, climate, technology, capitalism death spiral; I frequently feel like I'm trapped in freefall and reading your posts that engage with those issues, or about mushrooms, or about corn snacks or whatever the gently caress is immensely valuable in providing some stability in my life. Maybe that seems melodramatic but genuinely it's become an important coping mechanism for me since I loving hate everything that is happening right now and I'm glad you all do too. It is also a source of a lot of my knowledge and informs my opinions on all sorts of topics. I have repeatedly and successfully talked friends out of supporting the loving disgusting yellow Tories thanks to informed and intelligent opinions I've read here and shamelessly regurgitated. One day I'm going to unwittingly run into a UKMT regular and it will be so painfully loving obvious where everything I know comes from, it terrifies me. Still - I'm a better person because of this thread and for that I am grateful. Thus I don't give a poo poo about crispchat\non politics chat or whatever. Sure, it's boring and repetitive but fine - I think it's the price of a busy daily thread with a lot of regulars and honestly I think it reflects normal conversations that people have when they are not on the internet. Groups love in-jokes, of course they do. Some recent specifics: Very happy to see a reference in Guavanaut's ukmt.jpg to the now very very dead squarechat vs trianglechat thread meme. I can't even remember what boatchat was about it's been so long. Presumably one day even monster munch will fade away. Extremely in support of a general election as soon as possible, to hell with Flint\Mann etc they are disgusting. Diet Crack, I am also in FGG - I hope the brainworms have cleared up in time but rest assured I will be helping to select the most extreme socialist candidate on Sunday. Perhaps that's not what you want - that will be the brainworms. All the posters who have been squawking nationalist bullshit in the last few days need to take a serious loving look at themselves. People do not have personal qualities assigned to them by a magical aura in the geographical location of their birth, and pretending they do is extremely contrary to the goal of international socialism. Very poor form, sort yourselves out. Ronya is always a very good poster. Obviously many many others are as well but since there appears to be debate wrt to ronya I'm taking a side. Also best wishes to GDT whatever you are going through, and anyone else who is going through anything. I shall now return to being perpetually ten pages behind and belatedly contributing to charity & gofundmes where possible. Fe: roast beef obviously how is this even a question
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kingturnip posted:For anyone aware of my very occasional posts regarding the goings-on in the Enfield North CLP - as they look for a candidate to replace Joan 'Loadsamoney' Ryan - the NEC have decided that locally-sourced candidates are, in fact, a waste of time. That sort of thing is part of why I don't really want the leadership to go on a purge, because it's going to be lovely NEC candidates everywhere if so. Is Enfield North the one that got put in special measures or whatever for voting to deselect ryan?
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chestnut santabag posted:This could be interpreted as Labour MPs not supporting an GE specifically this very moment as the extension needs to be confirmed first but gently caress knows with these so called reporters and their "sources" It's bullshit posturing if not outright lies. Labour MPs know that if they refuse to vote for an election they'll be deselected as fast as their CLPs can manage.
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kyojin posted:I can't even remember what boatchat was about it's been so long. Boatchat was about the class character of rowing, I believe.
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Only boatchat I'm interested in is 10,000 TEU's or higher, so sorry ports that aren't Southampton or Felixtowe or "London Gateway"
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kyojin posted:Fe: roast beef obviously how is this even a question Think perhaps it's better you went back to lurking comrade
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Oct 23, 2019 22:27
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ronya posted:Successful and dense high-rise housing in rich cities elsewhere in the world - Hong Kong, Seoul, any number of minor Chinese cities with populations larger than all of Scotland - are not Brutalist slab blocks but are almost wholly point blocks with numerous windows, giving a remarkably pigeon loft look So many windows open to internal void and walls 3 feet away. Terrible views but at least the ventilation's good.
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Ms Fuchi posted:If you like Brutalism, check out the beautiful AT&T Long Lines Building Welcome to the thread, post post post! there's no need to read any of it, that way lies arguments
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Oct 23, 2019 22:34
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Atleast Elliott saved the building. Also:  
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Oct 23, 2019 22:38
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Oh yeah, I forgot about noted colossal loving moron Javid's 50p brexit coins.
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https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1186992002300334082?s=21 lol cummings
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CGI Stardust posted:I want to blow in the holes and make it toot That's exactly how I feel about your mum
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Oct 23, 2019 22:45
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I am in Germany, eating butteries and drinking ginger lime Diet Coke. Don't break the country, please.
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I just ate some roast beef Monster Munch and they were great
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Oct 23, 2019 22:53
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Jedit posted:I am in Germany, eating butteries and drinking ginger lime Diet Coke. Don't break the country, please. You might want to just. Stay. If I thought there was a remotely practical way to do it I might actually consider it tbh.
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kyojin posted:Very happy to see a reference in Guavanaut's ukmt.jpg to the now very very dead squarechat vs trianglechat thread meme. I can't even remember what boatchat was about it's been so long. I can't even remember the number of *chats I was mocking in that. There's foodchat, chipbuttychat, crispchat, biscuitchat, tellychat, cutlerychat/dinnerpartybooj, saucechat, teachat, and Millibandchat at least, plus the triangle vs square sandwichchat. As someone else pointed out, the only thing missing is an amusing political salt pot. Also: Darth Walrus posted:lol cummings
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re: stitch-ups running theme across the CLPs complaining to LabourList is the NEC parachuting GMB/Unison/Unite/etc. union-linked candidates, not local left activists or local BAME/other locally appropriate ethnic community candidates the trade union's remaining largest bloc vote is on the NEC, where the 39 seats have 13 trade union reps amongst them. It will not often have opportunities to install friendly MPs in a way - you want a trade union link, here it is. Nobody ever said it was necessarily a friend to the activist left (it wasn't during the 1980s mandatory selection period either - as the right-wing Labour MP John Golding remarked, "they pack, we pack, but we pack better than they do"). Trade unions ultimately have the trade union's interests in mind and trade unionists were already there when the right ruled the party before, when the left ruled the party today, and doesn't want or need to be dependent on either. Note the curious faction politics of it: quote:Tom Watson, Labour’s deputy leader who sits on the NEC, argued unsuccessfully for a more member-led process. This would have been identical to the normal selection process, but significantly sped up. Still, it might not necessarily be malicious (at least the inevitable party or judicial review might not see undeniable evidence of a stitch-up) - some caution as to whether party resources might be diverted to narrow local power base is justifiable. It's the same core problem with the Labour community organising initiative announced last year: unless the activist is a rockstar, there's a good chance the activist is getting more out of the endorsement of the party than the converse. Still, if someone is already a local councillor it's harder to argue that they are some dilettante.
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Rarity posted:I've tried doing this in the past and I inevitably falter somewhere around 1967 when Marvel's lineup had enough D-list material they they never properly bothered to archive it anywhere. I'm already up to 1972, which is a minor miracle as far as me not just giving up on everything ever after 5 minutes. Thanks to the Internet it's actually possible to see most things if you have no morals about stealing from Disney.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I could literally write a book on the social history of the East End (and maybe I will, if enough used tenners aren’t sent my way - you’ve been warned) If there's some sort of Kickstarter that lets people prebuy books so the author is able to write them you should consider it, not being sarky I'd put 15 quid on the hope of a working class east history written by a modern online human.
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kyojin posted:I am also in FGG - Finchley and Golders Green? Me too! Though i thought we'd picked our candidate back in the spring.. Sara Conway iirc.
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forkboy84 posted:I'm already up to 1972, which is a minor miracle as far as me not just giving up on everything ever after 5 minutes. I hope it's referring to the Socialist politician and not the young earth creationist  Vitamin P posted:If there's some sort of Kickstarter that lets people prebuy books so the author is able to write them you should consider it, not being sarky I'd put 15 quid on the hope of a working class east history written by a modern online human.
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CGI Stardust posted:I want to blow in the holes and make it toot You would get a quare rumble out of that thing imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UayQi2tdJTw&t=135s
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kyojin posted:Since we are posting about posting again, I'm an extremist lurker and here are my thoughts: this thread is honestly the best/only place that collates UK information and analysis that I know, its ridiculous how much better informed it makes me than the poor hapless fuckers in my life that try to sift meaning just by reading the news, just absolutely no long term context to anything that happens
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ronya posted:Successful and dense high-rise housing in rich cities elsewhere in the world - Hong Kong, Seoul, any number of minor Chinese cities with populations larger than all of Scotland - are not Brutalist slab blocks but are almost wholly point blocks with numerous windows, giving a remarkably pigeon loft look Very little social housing in London (I'm not sure about the rest of the country) is Brutalist apart from coincidentally. It'll come up in the next post but that look was a completely pragmatic choice because it was cheap as poo poo. To the two posters talking about the grey-brown concrete, that's also addressed.
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Communist Thoughts posted:this thread is honestly the best/only place that collates UK information and analysis that I know, its ridiculous how much better informed it makes me than the poor hapless fuckers in my life that try to sift meaning just by reading the news, just absolutely no long term context to anything that happens Disagree that it's a useful collating source, but if this thread wrangled up 100 or so interesting Twitter accounts to go in the OP that probably would be a legit useful resource.
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Communist Thoughts posted:this thread is honestly the best/only place that collates UK information and analysis that I know, its ridiculous how much better informed it makes me than the poor hapless fuckers in my life that try to sift meaning just by reading the news, just absolutely no long term context to anything that happens Same. And also whenever crispchat happens IRL it's nice to know I'm always prepared.
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Personally I figure if the UKMT isn't talking about it it isn't important, and also most things we talk about don't merit much analysis because it's just tories being tories or some entirely cooked up nonsense in the papers. You can substitute basically 90% of the politics knowledge with 1. Tories Bad. 2. Press Lying. 3. History of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggle.
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Vitamin P posted:If there's some sort of Kickstarter that lets people prebuy books so the author is able to write them you should consider it, not being sarky I'd put 15 quid on the hope of a working class east history written by a modern online human. I do write a blog (under my own name, so not getting linked here) about weird bits of East London history and my ex-boss, who now runs a vanity press, keeps encouraging me to sit down and properly write stuff out but this is 100% leisure for me and the idea of doing it for money (or, TBH, for an audience of anyone but me) is utterly anathema to me because it seems like the quickest way to destroy the fun I have in doing it. Also I feel like if it was actually to go on paper I'd need to properly research stuff rather than just throwing out random half-remembered facts and then hammering them into whatever narrative/terrible joke I'd settled on, and  (That blog probably hasn't been updated in two years now because of that exact reason - after a few people complimented me on it I set myself a once-a-fortnight schedule for new posts and it totally ruined it. I really should get round to finishing off the half-dozen or so posts I've got in the drafts, but the well feels poisoned now)
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Guavanaut posted:As the old joke goes, what's the difference between Walt Brown and Walt Disney. Walt Brown has morals and Walt Disney. Current stance from the organisers is not to boycott yet. https://twitter.com/ksr_united/status/1181591340624334848
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ronya posted:re: stitch-ups Yeah, it's a lovely situation when you've got enthusiastic local members from a sizeable minority ethnic group who could well feel justifiably disenfranchised going into an election in what's been a marginal seat only quite recently. They're really going to rely heavily on Momentum sending people out to help, because I suspect there's a lot of poo poo-talking of the NEC going on right now.
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Rarity posted:Think perhaps it's better you went back to lurking comrade They're right though. I guess we roast beef supporters are a silent, oppressed majority. Now I feel guilty for propagating crisp chat so have some other content.. ronya posted:there's still a great deal of trenchant left-wing analysis on small left-wing blogs, of the ancient kind still on blogger or blogspot or what have you I guess I wouldn't necessarily trust myself to recognise what was actual good analysis - social media gives that comforting sense of reliance on a hive mind (at least some of whom are presumably more knowledgeable on a topic than yourself) to make such judgements for you Still I'd be interested to see examples of the kind of thing you're referring to. I think I've seen a couple of such articles posted itt (one about Corbynomics/people's quantitative easing from a couple of years back comes to mind) but can't remember the sources at all. Pochoclo posted:It's just the noes to the left Ages back but I wanted to say as someone who watched Rocky Horror for the first time just a couple of weeks ago, I appreciated this
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Speaking of song lyrics the cspam thread came up with a loving hilarious one BREXIT IMPRISONING ME ALL THAT I SEE ABSOLUTE BREXIT I CANNOT LEAVE I CANNOT STAY BREXIT LIGHT BREXIT NIGHT TAKE MY HAND WE'RE OFF TO BREXIT BREXIT LAND
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kingturnip posted:For anyone aware of my very occasional posts regarding the goings-on in the Enfield North CLP - as they look for a candidate to replace Joan 'Loadsamoney' Ryan - the NEC have decided that locally-sourced candidates are, in fact, a waste of time. Watch me get probated again, but the stinking was objectively not about ethnicity. The NEC blocking of EN candidates was very clearly blocking candidates from the proscribed Labour left list, that the left of Labour are more likely to be localist and more likely to not be racist, and so inevitably support what you call Turkish candidates, is an interesting correlation but not the causation. Soberly looking at the choices they were blocking lefties not turks. And I'm not going to get into the Council stuff, I legit don't know enough about it and don't particularly respect your take anyway, but your focus on people being capital-T Turkish above any other factor is indicative of a very negative change over the last few years and you're doing that poo poo in my ends. Ethnicity doesn't matter, policy and ideology does, literally everyone arguing otherwise is a oval office.
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Coohoolin posted:Speaking of song lyrics the cspam thread came up with a loving hilarious one Now I lay me down to leave I pray the Lord my soul to remain If I die before we brexit something something something (my imagination fails me at this point).
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:something something something (my imagination fails me at this point).
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Rarity posted:Tag urself I'm Kranch mayochup was the leading Polish street food condiment a decade ago and presumably still is
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R. Mute posted:I get voting Tory - you're a bad person, you have to protect your interests. But voting libdem... how loving dumb do you have to be to vote libdem? https://twitter.com/nanayasleeps/status/1171366883955752961
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Rarity posted:Tag urself I'm Kranch Yet no one has posted this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRntutn8udw That second bottle is named incorrectly.
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Rarity posted:Tag urself I'm Kranch This looks like one of those pictures designed to simulate the visual effect of having a stroke.
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