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How do they spend 3 hours talking about Pat's internet being hosed?
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Oct 23, 2019 22:11
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No wonder Matt wanted out.
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Oct 23, 2019 22:36
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MagusDraco posted:How do they spend 3 hours talking about Pat's internet being hosed? 
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Oct 23, 2019 22:49
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It's actually about Indivisible. Pat hates it, Woolie loves it, they argue about it incessantly for three hours because it's clear they both want different things from the game but aren't able to just leave it at that so it has to meet some kinds of non-existent objective "good" threshold for them to fight over.
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Oct 24, 2019 02:06
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Of course pat hates it, he's hilariously terrible at it. Like, I've checked out a few different streams and basically everyone cottoned on to the basic mechanics by the first boss but pat just basically stared blankly at it throughout
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Oct 24, 2019 03:20
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im good at it but the games combat is puddle-deep and the optimal strategy by midgame and beyond is to slap all the buttons as fast as possible and the game never, ever challenges you on that.
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Oct 24, 2019 04:56
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Farg posted:im good at it but the games combat is puddle-deep and the optimal strategy by midgame and beyond is to slap all the buttons as fast as possible and the game never, ever challenges you on that. So it's the Astral Chain of Valkyrie Profile games is what you're saying
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Oct 24, 2019 04:57
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Blockhouse posted:So it's the Astral Chain of Valkyrie Profile games is what you're saying sure i guess. i really wanted the combat to be deeper but trying to play it "right" and chain together attacks in a smart way did incrementally more damage at best and took twice as long
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Oct 24, 2019 05:55
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Farg posted:im good at it but the games combat is puddle-deep and the optimal strategy by midgame and beyond is to slap all the buttons as fast as possible and the game never, ever challenges you on that. I also have Naga Rider in my party because he has a Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann color scheme and it looks real good and also he Cannot Stop Posing Really the main problem with the combat is that for some weird reason all the numbers skyrocket after a certain point after the "prologue" and something about the affinity system (hearts) seems to amplify all numbers to a ridiculous degree so now I'm about 2/3 into the game I believe (after the second trip to mount sumeru) and my party members have 35k health and can kill everything in a single round of combat. Right after the above spoilered part, Leilani was able to solo a number of enemy groups. I wonder if lab zero will balance things a bit or what because yeah, most everything is steamrolled in the latter part of the game no matter how monstrous they're supposed to be.
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Oct 24, 2019 09:12
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When I started watching SBFP I thought that Pat was nuts and Woolie was sane. After the hilarity that was today (and also, like, the last five years of listening to their podcasts) I'm starting to think that the only real difference is that Pat knows he's crazy, and Woolie thinks that everybody else is crazy. Also, as someone who's never played Astral Chain, what the hell was going on with Woolie's savegame mind gremlins? Was the hub area also part of a mission, and he was assuming it would autosave in-mission just like it did when he returned to it between missions? Because that was the most entertaining part of the podcast by far, but gently caress it was confusing. Omi no Kami fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Oct 24, 2019 13:56
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Woolie isn't crazy, just extremely stuck in his ways.
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Oct 24, 2019 14:07
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Captain Invictus posted:Of course pat hates it, he's hilariously terrible at it. Like, I've checked out a few different streams and basically everyone cottoned on to the basic mechanics by the first boss but pat just basically stared blankly at it throughout Wow. You can watch Woolie and Reggie grok what and whose attacks set up for juggles and all sorts of thing as soon as the first LP episode.
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Oct 24, 2019 14:08
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Neo_Crimson posted:Woolie isn't crazy, just extremely stuck in his ways. and also crazy
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Oct 24, 2019 14:18
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Dawgstar posted:Wow. You can watch Woolie and Reggie grok what and whose attacks set up for juggles and all sorts of thing as soon as the first LP episode. They figured it out eventually but man that was a bit rough
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Oct 24, 2019 14:26
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Farg posted:im good at it but the games combat is puddle-deep and the optimal strategy by midgame and beyond is to slap all the buttons as fast as possible and the game never, ever challenges you on that. That sounds like it has Fire Emblem:3 Houses syndrome, where most of the options and player choices don't matter on the default difficulties. Fortunately, 3 Houses got another difficulty patched in where player choices do matter and every option has an actual use in the game.
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No, it's not really a three houses situation. There is no actual evolution to the combat or addition beyond their set moveset.
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Oct 24, 2019 19:23
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Oh god the indivisible talk is so much worse than I thought it would be lol Pat really is mind goblins personified, I made it to an hour and a quarter in before skipping past it all Edit: Oh god I thought it was done around the time they started talking about Astral Chain but then it really did continue until 2 hours and 45 minutes into the podcast what the fuuuuuck Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Oct 25, 2019 |
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Oct 25, 2019 00:32
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Captain Invictus posted:Oh god the indivisible talk is so much worse than I thought it would be lol Yeah I'm just gonna skip this podcast. Jesus christ
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Oct 25, 2019 01:13
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I would recommend just cutting to the 3 hour mark. The news section taught me that the reason why Fallout 76 is a laggy mess, is because it pings every single item in someone's inventory.
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Oct 25, 2019 01:15
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I'm going to listen to the 3 hours of nothing in this podcast while practicing for climax of night and nothing is going to stop me except Pat and Woolie being insufferable and I've a high tolerance for that at this point
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Oct 25, 2019 01:19
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I wish we had Matt and Woolie going through the 2k20 trainwreck. It could've been the new Livin Da Dream or THUG!
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Oct 25, 2019 03:26
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The Bee posted:I wish we had Matt and Woolie going through the 2k20 trainwreck. It could've been the new Livin Da Dream or THUG! 
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Oct 25, 2019 03:48
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Tae posted:No, it's not really a three houses situation. There is no actual evolution to the combat or addition beyond their set moveset. Yeah, there isn't really progression. Ajna levels up, and other characters gain Affinity, but it really isn't clear at all what that does mechanically--presumably it makes the numbers slightly bigger, but not in a way you notice. And characters besides Ajna are just their moveset, straight up, all at more or less the same power level, without a lot of incentive to pick one over another. And because each moveset is (understandably) small, it isn't like there's a ton of tricks to pick up, there's no real reward for playing particularly well.
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Oct 25, 2019 04:08
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valkyrie profile got away with its gigantic cast because your party members were also basically salable resources, you had to kick one up to valhalla every so often or daddy odin would get very upset this encouraged a semi-rotating cast where you had a couple of reliable standbys along with whatever schmuck you were leveling up to send upstairs that chapter indivisible just seems to be glutted with characters and short on reasons to use any of them
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Oct 25, 2019 04:28
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Indivisible's cast has some pretty fun character gimmicks, it's just that you really don't benefit from engaging with the harder gimmicks or really trying to be creative with your combos at all. I kinda wish it cribbed a bit more from DMC/Bayonetta, with "rated" fights and reasons to not just wait until you got everyone's attack gauge filled in to actually do poo poo.
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Oct 25, 2019 04:32
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MagusDraco posted:Yeah I'm just gonna skip this podcast. Jesus christ Nah just skip to 2h45m in the moment they start talking about playing indivisible, the rest of the cast is fine after that Captain Baal posted:I'm going to listen to the 3 hours of nothing in this podcast while practicing for climax of night and nothing is going to stop me except Pat and Woolie being insufferable and I've a high tolerance for that at this point Oxxidation posted:
I do hope they balance things in a patch but I'm still enjoying the game a ton
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Oxxidation posted:valkyrie profile got away with its gigantic cast because your party members were also basically salable resources, you had to kick one up to valhalla every so often or daddy odin would get very upset And often for the best match you'd have to recruit, say, a mermaid at the beginning of the chapter and ship her off to Valhalla at the end. Also you got two characters you honestly wanted to keep until the end pretty early on so you were able to have party members you were used to.
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Captain Invictus posted:
I was ready to skip the boys' Indivisible fight (because I backed the Switch version oh boy) but mind elaborating? just a big scream fight an hour into that discussion?
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Oct 25, 2019 22:44
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There is something in the tone of voice with woolie in particular where it's clear it's gone beyond their typical bickering and straight into "fucks sake, pat is doing THIS poo poo again on camera" but since the back down doesn't exist in castle super beast they argued for 3 hours straight instead of moving on after 20 minutes with "I like it, you hate it" It felt omicron-esque type of getting Actual Mad
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Oct 25, 2019 22:56
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Captain Invictus posted:There is something in the tone of voice with woolie in particular where it's clear it's gone beyond their typical bickering and straight into "fucks sake, pat is doing THIS poo poo again on camera" but since the back down doesn't exist in castle super beast they argued for 3 hours straight instead of moving on after 20 minutes with "I like it, you hate it" It's impossible to back down from a fight Pat's decided to have. He's like a ginger goose, he's gonna keep coming at you.
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Captain Invictus posted:There is something in the tone of voice with woolie in particular where it's clear it's gone beyond their typical bickering and straight into "fucks sake, pat is doing THIS poo poo again on camera" but since the back down doesn't exist in castle super beast they argued for 3 hours straight instead of moving on after 20 minutes with "I like it, you hate it" Very oof, and I'm glad I won't listen to that. Thank you
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Oct 25, 2019 23:24
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Dias posted:It's impossible to back down from a fight Pat's decided to have. He's like a ginger goose, he's gonna keep coming at you. It feels like Pat is the ur-example of the guy in your social circle that you give the label 'okay in small doses.'
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Dawgstar posted:It feels like Pat is the ur-example of the guy in your social circle that you give the label 'okay in small doses.' And that's why the channel doesn't exist anymore! 
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Oct 26, 2019 01:31
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I've been rewatching old Shitstorms and there's a lot of bits in Shitstorm 7 that, in hindsight, were pretty heavily foreshadowing the whole thing being close to imploding. The Visage video is practically forty minutes of Matt and Pat being legit annoyed at each other.
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Oct 26, 2019 01:38
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You can easily point to Pat being the reason why the channel never reached the heights of their fellow youtubers, when you hear stories that every idea forward was either by Woolie or Matt.
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Oct 26, 2019 01:55
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Tae posted:I would recommend just cutting to the 3 hour mark. The news section taught me that the reason why Fallout 76 is a laggy mess, is because it pings every single item in someone's inventory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZsfTWqqKKM
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Oct 26, 2019 04:21
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Holy poo poo, I can't believe that they either didn't; A) Patch it in so the items don't need to ping or B) Patch it in so that while the items ping, instead of pinging a central server it spoofed the server locally and sent back a 'packet received' message without actually leaving the machine. Sure the second would make the game more likely to have dupes; but it's not an MMO with a central economy. It's just Minecraft with Bethesda owned servers.
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Oct 26, 2019 04:48
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Blockhouse posted:I've been rewatching old Shitstorms and there's a lot of bits in Shitstorm 7 that, in hindsight, were pretty heavily foreshadowing the whole thing being close to imploding. The Visage video is practically forty minutes of Matt and Pat being legit annoyed at each other. I've been rewatching their DS3 playthrough, and while I still think they have great chemistry together, holy poo poo there's some moments that in hindsight you can just feel the break-up starting to form.
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Oct 26, 2019 06:03
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I wish Pat and Woolie made new friends to hang out/podcast with.
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