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My usual practice judo gi is finally starting to wear out. Any recommendations on a replacement? I'd like a 4.5 because of my gorilla arms, but would prefer not to have the heaviness of a double-weave. I've only worn Fuji and Hsu before.
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Sep 24, 2019 01:14
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Fell Fire posted:My usual practice judo gi is finally starting to wear out. Any recommendations on a replacement? I'd like a 4.5 because of my gorilla arms, but would prefer not to have the heaviness of a double-weave. I've only worn Fuji and Hsu before. I've recently purchased a Fuji Tokai Setsugi and I'm quite happy with it for its price. It's not ijf approved but it's a quality product. It might be a bit too heavy for you. My guess is that they're 650g or so The Nicholas Gill gis from jukado are also good, but they're ridiculously heavy at 900g. They appear to be getting discontinued so you can probably get a deal. Fuji's basic single weave gis seem to hold up well enough but they're not as nice. I've not yet seen an adult wear one over multiple seasons. Most decent judo gear is heavy weave.
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Sep 24, 2019 20:26
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Out of curiosity, how do other disciplines treat experienced but new comers into your sport? For example, if you had a person with MMA or kickboxing training for a few years and joined your art would they start right at white, no exceptions and work up like someone that is totally new or would they be evaluated and ranked?
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Oct 12, 2019 17:15
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slidebite posted:Out of curiosity, how do other disciplines treat experienced but new comers into your sport? Everyone in BJJ comes in as a white belt. Black Belt in Judo, Highschool College champ in wrestling, everyone. They, people with good grappling backgrounds, tend to get promoted faster just because they have less to learn before they're at an acceptable skill level for the next belt. Edit: thinking about it sometimes they get promoted slower than what their skill level would have you believe to rack up some medals at competition. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Oct 12, 2019 |
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Oct 12, 2019 17:30
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If it's like an open mat situation, I've seen guys wear their judo black belt or whatever because its what they have. Nbd There's always the story of the Japanese Jiu Jitsu or aikido guy showing up in a colored belt and getting rocked. For example: https://youtu.be/AyvOTEz7-8E I wish i still had my aikido uniform. Would love to choke some dudes with my dress.
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Oct 12, 2019 21:31
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Always wear a white belt to a new art. You want people to be like ‘you’re good, do you have prior experience?’ after sparring with you. You don’t want to be the guy who rocks up wearing a black belt and then gets annihilated by white belts and then makes a bunch of weird excuses about it. Happened very recently to me, guy wore his japanese ju-jitsu black belt to a beginner judo class, he spent the drilling portion of the class ‘correcting’ and ‘instructing’ his partner, then he spent the sparring portion of the class getting wrecked by white belts. Embarassing stuff.
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Oct 12, 2019 22:58
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slidebite posted:Out of curiosity, how do other disciplines treat experienced but new comers into your sport? At my muay thai gym, you start with beginner classes just like everyone else. If your technique is solid, the coaches tell you to come to more advanced classes.
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Oct 15, 2019 14:19
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I've really been enjoying these classes and am super glad I started. Here's the thoughts I've had so far. I am surprised that so much of the classes is just physical exercise and stretching. It's like... 80% basic fitness and then the last ten minutes we do stuff related to martial arts. Although I guess it's not a bad thing. I've started noticing some worrying limitations of my body, though - leg lifts and stuff with me left leg result in this really uncomfortable slide-pop of something moving under my skin and I have no idea if I should be ignoring it and just working through it or if something is actually wrong and I need to pull myself back there. I've definitely taken a break from the exercises when my back starts twinging, though, I've hurt myself before doing exercises and basically ruined all my momentum and I really want to avoid that this time, so I've got a weird mix of pushing myself and very much not pushing myself right now. Not that anyone else is encouraging me to really push... It's really uncomfortable having my strength/flexibility commented on/complimented as often as it is though, and I sort of wish it would stop but I am doing my best to ignore my antisocial tendencies and just accept things in good grace instead of leaving to avoid people ever saying good things about me like I normally do. Still, I'm much more comfortable with criticism and I wish there was a lot more of that and a lot less of this positive reinforcement nonsense. I expected higher expectations, I think? I do enjoy the occasional "walk around and stretch you quite a bit more than you're stretching" circuits the teacher does. Following up on that first point, my and my girlfriend have taken to basically "continuing class after class", since it feels like the 5 to 10 minutes of actual form stuff we do is not enough. Which is probably intentional, we're probably supposed to practice at home, but I don't have the time on other days, or the space for that at home, so we've gotten to the point of inviting people to come and practice forms and sparring in the alley behind the pizza place for another half hour or so after class, and that's been fun, although we had a surprise audience gather the other day to watch and that embarrassed her a lot, hah. And practicing properly really feels like it requires one of a: a mirror, a partner, or a recording device, so you can tell what you're doing wrong. It's pretty great so far though, all told!
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Oct 15, 2019 17:04
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I attended my first tournament (Tang soo do/Taekwando) a couple of weeks ago. Currently a white senior belt (which equates to around the first 24 weeks +/-) and have been enjoying classes with my daughter and was encouraged to sign up. Ended up placing first in the point sparring beginner adult division. Also got third place in open hand forms. It was fun/interesting. Learning to get my Chuck Norris kicks down.
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Oct 15, 2019 17:09
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LLJKSiLk posted:I attended my first tournament (Tang soo do/Taekwando) a couple of weeks ago. Currently a white senior belt (which equates to around the first 24 weeks +/-) and have been enjoying classes with my daughter and was encouraged to sign up. Ended up placing first in the point sparring beginner adult division. Also got third place in open hand forms. It was fun/interesting. Learning to get my Chuck Norris kicks down. Good on you for putting yourself out there! That being said, why is your opponent softly whispering to your kick?
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Oct 15, 2019 18:20
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DandyLion posted:Good on you for putting yourself out there! He had just thrown a kick I blocked and he was backing off. I decided to go for the win with 2 points to the side of the head. Not the best action shot from a zoomed in iPhone 7. I've also dropped a little over 50 lbs since the beginning of the year so I'm surprised I could get my leg that high.
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Oct 15, 2019 19:35
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What's up with the whole belt thing, anyway? From what I've read, it used to be a pretty niche Japanese-only thing but has (fairly recently) spread to be taken up by basically everyone in every martial art. Is it just like a convenience thing for matching people up in tournaments, mostly? Or does it matter somehow in some way even when not competing?
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Oct 15, 2019 20:34
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GlyphGryph posted:What's up with the whole belt thing, anyway? From what I've read, it used to be a pretty niche Japanese-only thing but has (fairly recently) spread to be taken up by basically everyone in every martial art. Depending on the sport you are talking about its on a continuum between <-Marketing gimmick ------ Way to recognize hours and ability->
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Oct 15, 2019 20:52
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Organising large groups of students into skill tiers makes teaching easier and gives the students an easy way to track their progress. Of course this runs the risk of making practice only about the next belt exam. The belt colours (and the kyu/dan ranking system) were invented by Jigoro Kano of judo fame so they're only about a hundred years old, which means they're younger than the semiautomatic firearm. Japanese budo schools ended up picking up the rankings as they joined the big martial arts federation active at the time. Then judo and karate got big and everyone started expecting there to be belts, so now even some Chinese martial arts do belts.
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Oct 15, 2019 20:53
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On another note anyone and everyone should totally watch The Art Of Self Defense if you haven't yet. It's loving hilarious
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Oct 15, 2019 21:09
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Siivola posted:
No, the dan ranking originally come from Go and was adapted in the 17th century. Judo didn't pick it up until the 1883. (Thanks Wiki!). Most koryu don't use it and have a menkyu kaiden system instead.
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Oct 16, 2019 08:06
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Oh, I hadn't made the go connection, thanks. Now that I think about it, was Kano even the first one to formalize the dan system in martial arts? I think some proto-kendo schools had been running for a good while before he came along, but I have no idea how they organized their classes.
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Oct 17, 2019 11:44
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Jigoro Kano invented all martial arts, including proto-kendo. This is a known fact. He also invented Go.
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Oct 17, 2019 22:15
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JaySB posted:On another note anyone and everyone should totally watch The Art Of Self Defense if you haven't yet. It's loving hilarious
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Oct 19, 2019 16:17
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YouTube?
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Oct 19, 2019 16:36
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The trailer is on youtube and looks like you can rent it on youtube as well. I'll probably wait until either my library gets it or it hits netflix/prime. It's still a fairly new release.
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Oct 19, 2019 17:24
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I watched this video and think this is the first time I've seen a bodybuilder beat the MMA fighter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O14yjsulv7w It made me sad. 
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Oct 24, 2019 23:56
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punk rebel ecks posted:I watched this video and think this is the first time I've seen a bodybuilder beat the MMA fighter. Juji owns and he also has a tkd background so it isn't surprising that he could beat someone 90 lbs lighter than him.
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Oct 25, 2019 00:12
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punk rebel ecks posted:I watched this video and think this is the first time I've seen a bodybuilder beat the MMA fighter. Maybe Yuns can answer this, from a strategic point of view, are triangles kinda a bad idea with that much of a size imbalance if you are not mega lanky in no gi? Compared with attempting omoplatas, sweeps, armbars, or taking it back to standing?
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Oct 25, 2019 00:26
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Shane isn't an MMA fighter, he's more of a kickboxer. Sparring isn't real fighting, but the guy who weighs almost 100lbs more than his opponent should almost always win. Fighting ability doesn't make you super human.
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Oct 25, 2019 00:27
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JaySB posted:Shane isn't an MMA fighter, he's more of a kickboxer. Sparring isn't real fighting, but the guy who weighs almost 100lbs more than his opponent should almost always win. Fighting ability doesn't make you super human. Believe me I know, but the bodybuilder dude pretty much let the guy throw on, to my purple belt eyes, a not bad looking triangle and dude pretty much just postured out of it.
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Oct 25, 2019 00:31
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Defenestrategy posted:Believe me I know, but the bodybuilder dude pretty much let the guy throw on, to my purple belt eyes, a not bad looking triangle and dude pretty much just postured out of it. I wasn't replying to your post initially. Shane needed to angle off more on that triangle and pull the head down, he could barely lock his foot in behind his knee. We're talking about a huge size and strength disparity though, look at what happens a few mins earlier when he tries to armbar Juji and he literally just tosses him across the mat and grabs Shane's arm to save him from flying off into the nether worlds. Always beat bigger guys with movement and transitions, take the back.
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Oct 25, 2019 00:48
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I don't like to triangle big guys even though I've got the length because it's often hard on the neck and back. I'll def snap one on if they're broken down due to defending and I see the opening.
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Oct 25, 2019 01:49
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I guess this one is now appropriate  
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Oct 25, 2019 02:17
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JaySB posted:Shane isn't an MMA fighter, he's more of a kickboxer. Sparring isn't real fighting, but the guy who weighs almost 100lbs more than his opponent should almost always win. Fighting ability doesn't make you super human. Even if the guy has little to no fighting experience?
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Oct 25, 2019 02:24
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punk rebel ecks posted:Even if the guy has little to no fighting experience? In the video above Jujimufu has fighting experience. He's a TKD black belt and has fought in competitions. Smaller guys with experience can overcome a size difference with skill.
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Oct 25, 2019 02:30
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That MMA fighter is not a good grappler at all. I'm 140-142 lbs and routinely roll with guys north of 230 including some guys who have to cut to make 265 heavyweight. You have to significantly adjust your game when there is a weight and strength disparity like that and that guy seemed incapable of that. You DON'T pull guard. Use your mobility advantage to play a top movement game. Also an absolute trash tier triangle. You never lock up behind the shoulder ESPECIALLY on a guy with large shoulders. Posturing out becomes trivial then which you saw the bodybuilder do easily but even a small guy could have done that. You lock up OVER the shoulder and underhook a leg. I'm shocked that he is a purple belt.
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Oct 25, 2019 02:38
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Yuns posted:I'm shocked that he is a purple belt. Shane is a white belt, MAYBE blue belt. He's posted some videos training in a gi before I think. Definitely not a purple belt.
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Oct 25, 2019 02:53
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JaySB posted:Shane is a white belt, MAYBE blue belt. He's posted some videos training in a gi before I think. Definitely not a purple belt.
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Oct 25, 2019 02:58
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This in me spitballing -- if you take two reasonably fit people of the same age, put one into a combat sport for a few years, have that person compete reasonably successfully at the lower amateur level, and let the other person just exercise to stay in shape, the fighter could probably face a 20-50lb difference and still win, depending on how much they weigh. If the fighter is in the middle tiers of an elite organization like the UFC, K-1, etc, I could see them handling a 100lb heavier reasonably fit person. If the fighter is weak and slow, even with training, I think they'd struggle with someone who was 20lbs or heavier but above average fitness.
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Oct 25, 2019 04:11
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I'm hardly an expert but I think that is underestimating the fighter. Even in class I see big guys get handled by significantly smaller experienced dudes.
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Oct 25, 2019 16:20
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In a class setting, you're normally not going to fully play to your (literal) strengths in size mismatch rounds. Bigger guys especially need discipline to work on improving their form over using raw strength.
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Oct 25, 2019 16:31
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kimbo305 posted:In a class setting, you're normally not going to fully play to your (literal) strengths in size mismatch rounds. Bigger guys especially need discipline to work on improving their form over using raw strength. Yeah, but wouldn't that work more in the smaller guys favor? Pretty much every time they do a fight of bigger guy with little or no experience and smaller guy with a lot of experience, the smaller guy wins.
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Oct 25, 2019 16:44
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The difference between a full novice and a beginner with half a dozen classes and rudimentary knowledge of the basics is huge. Sometimes athletic tough guys come in and spaz the gently caress out as if the mats are a death match. I can handle those guys even if they're 100 lb bigger than me and they go full ham. Once they've had a few classes and get a sense of how not accidentally to be completely suicidal when grappling, or if they've wrestled a bit in the past, it's a much more dangerous situation for me when they're that big.
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I'm not confident people can learn that much in six classes. Maybe two dozen sounds right. I could just be a really slow learner though. Also, I forget how much people should weigh, which is skewing my perception. A 20lbs weight difference averages around four inches in height. 20lbs (at times even 50lbs) in my mind is not that much being how overweight people at these days. punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Oct 25, 2019 |
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