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MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





Jaxyon posted:

Why don't you go ahead and help us understand what YMB meant.
Obviously the nominal fear is that people are just going to medicate themselves into apathy while fascists murder us all and climate change takes care of anyone they missed.

That's fine and all but it comes both from a misunderstanding of how treatment works (i.e. it's possible to be on treatment for depression and still care about things and want to fix them - in fact that's kind of the loving point) and also it presumes the free and easy availability of mental health treatment and necessary drugs which, lol.

American apathy comes principally, IMO anyway, from a lack of imagination what to do besides capitalism and from a sophisticated propaganda campaign to keep it that way. Definitely not because too many people are going to therapy and therefore don't care about making things better I mean what the actual gently caress.

I mean depressed people have less motivation to fix their lives and society. Not more. So it was a dumb, misinformed comment, but like BENGHAZI 2 I don't think it was a deliberate attempt to dissuade people from getting help - that part was accidental (and probably still deserved a probation, but not the dogpile).

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theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

He was saying evil weasels post that the issue was just depression and that there was no cause in the physical world for it was absolutely stupid, and he was right

It's fun when bad posters circle the wagons

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

Broke: antidepressants will rob me of my creative energy.

Woke: antidepressants will rob me of my class solidarity

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

Obviously the nominal fear is that people are just going to medicate themselves into apathy while fascists murder us all and climate change takes care of anyone they missed.

That's fine and all but it comes both from a misunderstanding of how treatment works (i.e. it's possible to be on treatment for depression and still care about things and want to fix them - in fact that's kind of the loving point) and also it presumes the free and easy availability of mental health treatment and necessary drugs which, lol.

American apathy comes principally, IMO anyway, from a lack of imagination what to do besides capitalism and from a sophisticated propaganda campaign to keep it that way. Definitely not because too many people are going to therapy and therefore don't care about making things better I mean what the actual gently caress.

I mean depressed people have less motivation to fix their lives and society. Not more. So it was a dumb, misinformed comment, but like BENGHAZI 2 I don't think it was a deliberate attempt to dissuade people from getting help - that part was accidental (and probably still deserved a probation, but not the dogpile).

No he was literally just making fun of the dumb thing evilweasel said that he quoted my god

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Bottom Liner posted:

https://twitter.com/RoseEmojiTico/status/1187098219072950275

:stare:

jesus loving christ they're shouting the quiet part now

Are they saying that minimum wage keeps black youth from being hired? Because they're not worth it? :stonk:

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

FizFashizzle posted:

Are they saying that minimum wage keeps black youth from being hired? Because they're not worth it? :stonk:

I took it as something like "young black americans aren't worth anything but to work minimum wage jobs" or something to that effect. gently caress TP USA and Charlie Kirk's lovely malformed head.

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

FizFashizzle posted:

Are they saying that minimum wage keeps black youth from being hired? Because they're not worth it? :stonk:

It the standard conservative bullshit line about minimum wage eliminating jobs, and yes, it ultimately means exactly what you think it means.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Bottom Liner posted:

https://twitter.com/RoseEmojiTico/status/1187098219072950275

:stare:

jesus loving christ they're shouting the quiet part now

Usually what they mean is that raising the minimum wage will push teenagers out of a job? I honestly can't remember how that's supposed to work.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Antidepressants, my anti anxiety meds, and my ADD meds help me to be a functioning God drat human being and also not a huge raging rear end in a top hat to my family.

Bottom line: get some help. There's likely someone and/or something out there that can help you feel better.

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





BENGHAZI 2 posted:

No he was literally just making fun of the dumb thing evilweasel said that he quoted my god
evilweasel was talking specifically about depression and YMB expanded that to include any kind of correlation between your mental state and the state of the world, which is dumb. Or at least being discontent - but again depression and discontentment are not the same thing and not only is it possible to get treatment for depression and still care about stuff, it actually helps you care about stuff and that's a goal of treatment.

Like if you want to have some great mass of people with class solidarity taking direct action to bash the fash and wrest control of the economy out of the hands of the capitalist class before they get us all killed, then you should want more people getting treatment for depression, not less. And you should want those things - I assume you want those things. I want them, anyway.

I mean I get want you're saying but I think it's more about overreaction and dogpiling than YMB actually being right - he wasn't right and it was a dumb post. But he did express a common sentiment so I'm disappointed there wasn't much discussion on why he was wrong.

And you may not be aware of this but I'm not generally known for defending evilweasel posts :shrug: and usually agree with you on most forum drama poo poo or whatever. You're putting me in a very awkward position here.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

It's a standard conservative talking point that min wage eliminates jobs cause it forces companies to pay too much for what a job is worth.

Since black people struggle with higher unemployment, TPUSA is claiming that if you banned it a bunch of jobs will magic up and help them

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose
Yo, is this the thread where we bitch about lovely posters getting a sixer?

Edit - On-topic book release

https://twitter.com/Bowsnonk/status/1187478134582497286

Spun Dog fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Oct 25, 2019

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

FizFashizzle posted:

Are they saying that minimum wage keeps black youth from being hired? Because they're not worth it? :stonk:

they're trying to say that if you raise minimum wage, it would most hurt young people and people of color. this isn't really true but that is what they are trying to say, it's a common libertarian argument of fake concern

how it comes across is reminding people of the exploitation of black labor and enforcing a status quo of exploitation. "grovel for minwage, black teens, for that is all you are worth" etc.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

He was saying evil weasels post that the issue was just depression and that there was no cause in the physical world for it was absolutely stupid, and he was right

Oh so his post was really dumb in a different way. Cool thanks.

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

Sub Par posted:

Such a terrible idea, not even well reasoned, ultra short, and doesn't deal with the moral hazard of a party purposefully impeaching and acquitting a president of their own party for political advantage. How is this guy a paid "fellow" anywhere??

There is no actual conservative intellectual movement that is anything more than clickbait astroturfed by billionaires.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Arglebargle III posted:

Usually what they mean is that raising the minimum wage will push teenagers out of a job? I honestly can't remember how that's supposed to work.

Teenagers are being pushed out of a job because of the olds refusing/unable to leave the workforce. It has nothing to do with minimum wage.

But seriously my first job was working in the kitchen at a McAllister's Deli. We were all highschool kids. I made 6.15 an hour to make potatoes.

I went into one the other day in a very wealthy suburb of knoxville and the kitchen crew and front of house were all people in their fifties and sixties :smith:

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
In the continuing saga of PG&E attempts to burn down all of northern California, we have a new entry

https://twitter.com/TarynLuna/status/1187511155960336389

But whats that you ask? Didn't PG&E turn off power to 100s of thousands to prevent these kind of issues? And wasn't the area where this fire started in that range?

Why yes, it was. They turned off all of the low voltage distribution lines in the area. AND KEPT THE loving HIGH VOLTAGE POWERLINES GOING

https://www.sfchronicle.com/california-wildfires/article/PG-E-says-high-voltage-lines-were-still-on-when-14560113.php

quote:

Hours before the fire broke out east of Geyserville, PG&E had shut off its low-voltage distribution lines in that area as it put nearly 28,000 Sonoma County homes and businesses in the dark in order to prevent its equipment from starting a fire in extreme winds.

But PG&E did not turn off its 230,000-volt and 115,000-volt transmission lines in the area, the company said. Transmission lines carry electricity at high voltages across long distances before the power is stepped down at a substation and delivered to homes via distribution lines.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
https://twitter.com/davecclarke/status/1187514250027261952?s=19

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Spun Dog posted:

Yo, is this the thread where we bitch about lovely posters getting a sixer?

Edit - On-topic book release

https://twitter.com/Bowsnonk/status/1187478134582497286

I actually went to Amazon to see if this book is real and yes it is. What is quite remarkable is that if you took away the names and the title from the book cover is looks like some loving Dad-porn novel about some old guy boning a young girl. To think that the Peterson's are seen some kind of intellectuals instead of a family of barely hidden incest wanting weirdos blows my mind.

vseslav.botkin
Feb 18, 2007
Professor
That's clearly someone gaming the Amazon system and the Petersons are 100% not involved with it but the cover is still extremely funny.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
That's getting shopped to My Carnal Dad as we speak.

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

WoodrowSkillson posted:

It's a standard conservative talking point that min wage eliminates jobs cause it forces companies to pay too much for what a job is worth.

Since black people struggle with higher unemployment, TPUSA is claiming that if you banned it a bunch of jobs will magic up and help them

Child labor laws.

Also know as the child unemployment act.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002


If it weren't for the egregious showing of skin, there's no way you'd be able to convince me that this isn't an Amish Romance novel.


quote:

After Maria Mast's abusive ex-boyfriend is arrested for being involved in sex trafficking and modern-day slavery, she thinks that she and her son Carter can safely return to her Amish community. But the danger has only just begun. Someone begins stalking her, and they want blood and revenge.Agent Derek Turner of Covert Police Detectives Unit is assigned as her bodyguard and goes with her to her former Amish community in Unity, Maine.The Amish way of life and their solid faith draws Derek in even though he hasn't prayed ever since his wife was murdered.Maria's secretive eyes, painful past, and cautious demeanor intrigue him. As the human trafficking ring begins to target the Amish community, Derek wonders if the distraction of her will cost him his career...and Maria's life.

Doctor Butts fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Oct 25, 2019

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Toaster Beef posted:

Isn't one of the stories about Trump's younger years that he was a surprisingly good baseball player

Better than Mickey Mantle. Everyone wanted him to play in the major leagues, but he knew there was more money in real estate. According to Donald Trump.

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose

vseslav.botkin posted:

That's clearly someone gaming the Amazon system and the Petersons are 100% not involved with it but the cover is still extremely funny.

No too sure of your police work there.

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

Spun Dog posted:

Yo, is this the thread where we bitch about lovely posters getting a sixer?

Edit - On-topic book release

https://twitter.com/Bowsnonk/status/1187478134582497286

What sort of diseases and/or complications arise when you only consume meat? Because I'm totally fine with Peterson fans all dying, or feeling really uncomfortable from them.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
Taxes:
https://i.imgur.com/oKLzPgY.mp4

Back taxes:

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

tek79 posted:

What sort of diseases and/or complications arise when you only consume meat? Because I'm totally fine with Peterson fans all dying, or feeling really uncomfortable from them.

He's in rehab.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.
This OWNS!

https://twitter.com/nevermore_007/status/1186965985867304961

vseslav.botkin
Feb 18, 2007
Professor

Spun Dog posted:

No too sure of your police work there.

Do a search for "Johnny Rockermeier" and check out the book preview, it's literally just transcripts of interviews that the Petersons have done.

I may not play by the rules but I get results, dammit!

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Wake me up when the shoes start flying again

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Charliegrs posted:

Child labor laws.

Also know as the child unemployment act.

was it newt or pat buchanan that legit made this argument

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Bottom Liner posted:

Wake me up when the shoes start flying again

Iraq should have built a statue of that man.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




I didn't know a platypus could be adorable :3:

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1187522961726681091?s=21

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

I'm sure the media will properly handle these like the distraction they are, and not totally get engaged in more both-sideism over these obvious show trials

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




:lol:

loving what?! This is insane

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



tek79 posted:

What sort of diseases and/or complications arise when you only consume meat? Because I'm totally fine with Peterson fans all dying, or feeling really uncomfortable from them.

Gout. A meat/protein heavy and low-carb diet puts you at a high risk of developing gout if you're not careful and pay attention. I doubt anyone following a Peterson designed diet (including the Petersons themselves) is doing anything besides shoving as much meat as they can down.

Also constipation if you don't get enough fiber. So gout and constipation.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

TulliusCicero posted:

:lol:

loving what?! This is insane

This is literally what Rudy and Barr said they were going to do. They were gonna dig up every single right wing conspiracy theory they could, open up investigations, and then leak they exist.

They already tried it with McCabe and the evidence points to the grand jury telling them to gently caress off, which is remarkable in its own right

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Cool so we’re gonna get Benghazi Hearings 2 Electric Boogaloo.

At least people are finally tired of Trumps poo poo so this distraction attempt can only do so much.

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