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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Abrade, Abzan Charm, Abrupt Decay, Anguished Unmaking, Assassin's Trophy, Bedevil, Bile Blight, Blink of an Eye, Cast Down, Despark, Disfigure, all before E. Bumping the cost of interaction from 1 to 2 is...not a small adjustment. ...and then there's the countermagic.
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I like that nothing has spiked to super crazy levels. That'll change, of course. I assume it's due to the unpredictable ban schedule, which if it was intentional of Wizards to announce that to keep the secondary market guessing, it's genius.
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Oct 25, 2019 02:15
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Owlbear Camus posted:https://twitter.com/TheGr8Aspie/status/1187531350192115714 Only if it's to piss on them
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Oct 25, 2019 02:29
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i recommend playing ashiok in brawl; not because it's good, but because the easiest way to get 5 wins and never play again is to have your opponents sacrifice their fabled passage and concede out of shame
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Oct 25, 2019 02:48
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Only if it's to piss on them And all the assholes who had to keep forcing it until it was finally enforced by the update today (I honestly don't get why it couldn't be implemented immediately like it was on MTGO).
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Oct 25, 2019 02:49
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Abrade, Abzan Charm, Abrupt Decay, Anguished Unmaking, Assassin's Trophy, Bedevil, Bile Blight, Blink of an Eye, Cast Down, Despark, Disfigure, all before E. And Bolt and Leak and Cryptic and Inquisition and...
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Oct 25, 2019 02:53
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Only if it's to piss on them rude. enjoy the new oko meta. 
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Oct 25, 2019 03:02
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Owlbear Camus posted:rude. enjoy the new oko meta. 
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Owlbear Camus posted:rude. enjoy the new oko meta. I'll take 4 (at max) Okos over dozens of zombies
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Oct 25, 2019 03:11
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TheKingofSprings posted:And Bolt and Leak and Cryptic and Inquisition and... I was just thinking board removal. You still have duress and thoughseize, which are on inquisition's level. Divest and Collective Brutality right below that. Losing Remand does suck, though.
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I wonder what notable reprints we'll be seeing in Standard in the next year or two. There has to be a number of cards that WotC thinks would be fine for Pioneer, but haven't been printed into Standard in recent years.
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C-Euro posted:I wonder what notable reprints we'll be seeing in Standard in the next year or two. There has to be a number of cards that WotC thinks would be fine for Pioneer, but haven't been printed into Standard in recent years. hahahaha the format exists for the sole purpose of never ever reprinting snapcaster mage
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ungulateman posted:hahahaha
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ungulateman posted:hahahaha
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I mean, yes to all of those, but I more meant your common/uncommon staples like your Remands and your Bolts and whatnot. Wizards please reprint Knight of the Reliquary in the next core set so I can play GW Value Town in a format that's actually slow enough for it to be viable.
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Oct 25, 2019 05:20
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Knight of the Reliquary in Zendikar 3: A good Zen to Dikar would be nice
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Oct 25, 2019 06:07
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The Reliquary in question is Toshimo's favorite land, Reliquary Tower. There has never been another Reliquary ever, and clearly cannot be, so KoTR is inexorably tied to Bant. Flavor is too powerful to defeat.
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Oct 25, 2019 13:14
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duress is not remotely on the level of inquisition what are you on like yeah there still exist some answers but going from 8 good discard spells to 4 is a huge deal. and while terminate and abrupt decay and stuff still exist, those are tier 2 removal spells at best, after bolt/path. countermagic is hosed, I don’t think there’s a single maindeckable 2cmc counter in the format. you can’t strip out all the spells people want to put in their decks and replace them with the spells people begrudgingly accept putting in their decks without majorly tilting the balance of power from threats to answers
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Oct 25, 2019 13:22
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I love seeing people desperate to run bad midrange piles in modern mad that their card quality went down for pioneer.
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Oct 25, 2019 13:33
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The lack of modern's 1 mana power spells and fetches is making the games clunkier than I anticipated.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:duress is not remotely on the level of inquisition what are you on[quote] Censor, Disdainful Stroke, Essence Scatter, Negate, Quench, Tale's End? Not great but not nothing. I guess.
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Oct 25, 2019 13:43
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So you may recall I decided on GP Utrecht instead of Lyon because Lyon coincided with the prospective Brexit day. It is now probably going to align with Brussels...
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BizarroAzrael posted:So you may recall I decided on GP Utrecht instead of Lyon because Lyon coincided with the prospective Brexit day. Good thing you've invested money in something stable like MTG cards instead of unreliable like The Pound then.
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Oct 25, 2019 15:02
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Censor, Disdainful Stroke, Essence Scatter, Negate, Quench, Tale's End? I would not maindeck a single one of those cards. the idea of a format where those cards would be viable in a maindeck is making me break out in hives.
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Oct 25, 2019 15:02
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I would not maindeck a single one of those cards. the idea of a format where those cards would be viable in a maindeck is making me break out in hives. I think the design of Censor is pretty sweet. Its also a really weird thing to stress out about.
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Oct 25, 2019 15:12
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Silumgar's Scorn is workable provided you have enough good dragons to enable it.
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Oct 25, 2019 15:12
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AnEdgelord posted:Silumgar's Scorn is workable provided you have enough good dragons to enable it. Yeah. The kind of decks that can get double blue turn 2 don’t play the 10-15 dragons necessary to turn it on. I love the goofy dragon cards from Tarkir as much as you do, but there are zero playable dragons under 4 cmc in the format. And no, Metallic Mimic doesn’t count.
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Oct 25, 2019 15:16
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I am playing mardu dragons again because it was my favorite standard deck and its not awful.
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Sickening posted:I am playing mardu dragons again because it was my favorite standard deck and its not awful. Do you have a list handy? I have a strange urge to play a deck that can play Draconic Roar.
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Cactrot posted:Do you have a list handy? I have a strange urge to play a deck that can play Draconic Roar.  Mine was really a planeswalker deck with 6-8 dragons. I think around then I made a good Mardu pw list that would get the opponent to side out removal and sweepers whilst I brought in Brimaz.
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I'm seeing a lot of censor and syncopate in the counter slots so far.
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AlternateNu posted:Yeah. The kind of decks that can get double blue turn 2 don’t play the 10-15 dragons necessary to turn it on. Sarkhan Fireblood is a playable three cmc dragon, in his heart
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It would be really nice if Dragons could just be not mandated to cost 4 or more
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Dragon deck? A return to Glory for the 'bringer?
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I wonder if that skred dragons deck could work in Pioneer. It never really broke out of the pack in Modern but I think most of the pieces are intact depending on what variation you build.
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Owlbear Camus posted:Dragon deck? A return to Glory for the 'bringer? I just wanna play kolaghan, the storm's fury, draconic roar, crackling doom and maybe thunderbeak regent again.
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Cactrot posted:I just wanna play kolaghan, the storm's fury, draconic roar, crackling doom and maybe thunderbeak regent again. I got you fam. Deck: Mardu Dragons    //Lands 4 Blood Crypt 3 Clifftop Retreat 4 Concealed Courtyard 3 Dragonskull Summit 4 Godless Shrine 1 Haven of the Spirit Dragon 4 Sacred Foundry 1 Urborg //Spells 4 Crackling Doom 4 Draconic Roar 2 Kolaghan's Command 4 Thoughtseize 2 Wild Slash //Creatures 4 Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury 4 Seeker of the Way 4 Soulfire Grand Master 4 Stormbreath Dragon 4 Thunderbreak Regent  Display deck statistics
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AlternateNu posted:Yeah. The kind of decks that can get double blue turn 2 don’t play the 10-15 dragons necessary to turn it on. The old esper dragons standard deck didnt need to play that much to make it worth playing (they played ~6) and who cares about dragons under 4 cmc when they are clearly your wincon? Ojutai has some modern pedigree and baby Bolas is probably worth consideration for a Grixis list.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I would not maindeck a single one of those cards. the idea of a format where those cards would be viable in a maindeck is making me break out in hives. Then play Legacy so you don't have to compromise a loving second on removal and just Swords poo poo, christ almighty.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Then play Legacy so you don't have to compromise a loving second on removal and just Swords poo poo, christ almighty. I do  I’d like to like this format, even as something distinct from modern and legacy, but if you’re gonna sit there with a straight face and tell me to put Tale’s End and Essence Scatter in the maindeck of a non-rotating format control deck I’m gonna give you poo poo for it. One of the big problems Modern has always had is that decks are always trying to go past each other because threats are so much better than answers, and this format has that problem times ten.
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