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StashAugustine posted:cant kill someone if you live in a pod for your entire life This is why my plan for mandatory abortions is perfect. Can't have kids shooting each other if there are no kids.
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Oct 25, 2019 01:27
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You can still shoot kids at each other though. 
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Oct 25, 2019 01:28
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anyone got a tldr as to why some people think that there is no way to stop american children from shooting up their schools? i just don't see how you can look at the world and conclude that yes, american schools must be this way and there is no way to stop the violence
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Oct 25, 2019 02:33
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redleader posted:anyone got a tldr as to why some people think that there is no way to stop american children from shooting up their schools? i just don't see how you can look at the world and conclude that yes, american schools must be this way and there is no way to stop the violence No, gently caress you dad!
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Oct 25, 2019 02:39
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redleader posted:anyone got a tldr as to why some people think that there is no way to stop american children from shooting up their schools? i just don't see how you can look at the world and conclude that yes, american schools must be this way and there is no way to stop the violence Because clearly the solution to kids not being able to work out their problems with each other and becoming antisocial is to..... enforce their being antisocial?
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Oct 25, 2019 02:41
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redleader posted:anyone got a tldr as to why some people think that there is no way to stop american children from shooting up their schools? i just don't see how you can look at the world and conclude that yes, american schools must be this way and there is no way to stop the violence It's because they know the NRA is so up in politicians' assholes that nothing will ever get done. If Newtown didn't get some people to finally question it, I doubt anything will.
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Oct 25, 2019 02:42
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foobardog posted:It's because they know the NRA is so up in politicians' assholes that nothing will ever get done. If Newtown didn't get some people to finally question it, I doubt anything will. Newtown only gave alt right weirdos a chance to buy into more crazy conspiracy theories and fake news.
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Oct 25, 2019 02:43
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etalian posted:Newtown only gave alt right weirdos a chance to buy into more crazy conspiracy theories and fake news. Yep. The response was to plug their ears and memoryhole it. Like basically the only hope for the foreseeable future would be a president saying gently caress it, we're taking the guns.
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Oct 25, 2019 02:47
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foobardog posted:Yep. The response was to plug their ears and memoryhole it. Like basically the only hope for the foreseeable future would be a president saying gently caress it, we're taking the guns. And then also be willing to call in a surgical aerial bombardment on the uncooperative. For real though, the actual solution to school shootings is to have death no longer be a highly attractive alternative to being alive in America. Any actual attempt at gun control will result in guns being taken from and denied to non-white persons and leftists and not a single other person or group.
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Oct 25, 2019 03:02
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Tubgoat posted:Any actual attempt at gun control will result in guns being taken from and denied to non-white persons and leftists and not a single other person or group. from the outside, what an amazing corner you have painted yourselves into
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Oct 25, 2019 03:13
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redleader posted:from the outside, what an amazing corner you have painted yourselves into It's almost like a country founded by a bunch of colonial middleman slavers who didn't want taxes to cut into their smuggling operations and a freer hand to exterminate the natives wasn't the most forward thinking operation. And this was their second try!
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Oct 25, 2019 03:27
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redleader posted:from the outside, what an amazing corner you have painted yourselves into Frankly, guns should be given to non-white people and homeless people only.
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Oct 25, 2019 03:53
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Main Paineframe posted:cyber eyes are gonna be mega cheap. advertising companies will subsidize the hell out of them in exchange for being able to harvest "anonymized" info about what you're looking at, and perhaps getting the ability to sometimes display ads directly in your cyber vision also the cyber manufacturer, the doctors, and the marketers all work for the same company and the different divisions just charge each other the "fair" amount of fees that the ads subsidize
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Oct 25, 2019 04:04
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redleader posted:anyone got a tldr as to why some people think that there is no way to stop american children from shooting up their schools? i just don't see how you can look at the world and conclude that yes, american schools must be this way and there is no way to stop the violence because any of the things that might stop school shootings might also slightly decrease the profit margin of some well-funded industry, or challenge some basic American cultural principle that's why they're instead offering alternate solutions that don't address the root causes but do funnel huge amounts of money to some parasite industry created to profit off the school shooting epidemic. for example, the Lambda School mentioned in that tweet isn't a primary education school. it's a private non-accredited for-profit code camp that's free up-front, but after you graduate and get a job, it takes 17% out of your every paycheck for five years likewise, mass shooting trainings, retrofitting school buildings with conveniently placed obstacles like they're FPS levels, invasive security and surveillance systems, posting security guards everywhere - they're useless bullshit, but they're useless bullshit that the school district pays huge amounts of money for
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Oct 25, 2019 04:23
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StashAugustine posted:cant kill someone if you live in a pod for your entire life there's a super old story that basically pre-predicted the internet where everyone does this and the idea of seeing a person physically face to face instead of through the network is terrifying
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Oct 25, 2019 04:24
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Main Paineframe posted:because any of the things that might stop school shootings might also slightly decrease the profit margin of some well-funded industry, or challenge some basic American cultural principle I'm kind of at the point where I think this is a naive look at it. Sure the money involved is a motivator but the shaping of cultural identity is more important. Capitalism is the end boss so it's money but the direct money isn't the goal and the keeping people in an alert state causing them to spend more is more what they're after. Yes, it's true that the level of irony I'm at is so deep that I'm not even sure if I'm ironic about it any more.
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Oct 25, 2019 04:31
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kinda hard to sell assault weapons if your company no longer exists tho amirite
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Oct 25, 2019 04:34
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Main Paineframe posted:this tweet leaves out some very important details from the piece, which is actually a theater-industry whine rather than a warning that Disney is destroying culture I dunno.. I think that's going a little too far. Rep theatres are often a labour of love more than actual profit.. Like when the term "goldmine" is used there it means (at least around here) that a ticket taker and concession worker can be employed and usually the popcorn machine works. When those commercially-viable movies are unavailable at any price, that's definitely hurting small theatres that'll have a smaller amount of popular content with which to attract the few people who support small theatres in the first place 
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Oct 25, 2019 04:51
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SniperWoreConverse posted:there's a super old story that basically pre-predicted the internet where everyone does this and the idea of seeing a person physically face to face instead of through the network is terrifying The Machine Stops, I think? It's been posted in one of these threads before, good read.
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Oct 25, 2019 04:56
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Snackmar posted:I dunno.. I think that's going a little too far. Rep theatres are often a labour of love more than actual profit.. Like when the term "goldmine" is used there it means (at least around here) that a ticket taker and concession worker can be employed and usually the popcorn machine works. When those commercially-viable movies are unavailable at any price, that's definitely hurting small theatres that'll have a smaller amount of popular content with which to attract the few people who support small theatres in the first place yes, but "these new policies mean trouble for small businesses" is a significantly different conversation from "these new policies will forever rob Americans of valuable cultural artifacts", which is what the tweet was leaning toward
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Oct 25, 2019 05:10
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we already have an increasingly large cultural memory hole since nothing is allowed to enter public domain anymore
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Oct 25, 2019 05:13
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Main Paineframe posted:yes, but "these new policies mean trouble for small businesses" is a significantly different conversation from "these new policies will forever rob Americans of valuable cultural artifacts", which is what the tweet was leaning toward "American Culture" is an oxymoron anyway.
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Oct 25, 2019 05:35
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redleader posted:anyone got a tldr as to why some people think that there is no way to stop american children from shooting up their schools? i just don't see how you can look at the world and conclude that yes, american schools must be this way and there is no way to stop the violence tldr mass alienation to the point of psychosis and extremist violence is our society working as intended
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Oct 25, 2019 05:39
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It's part of cultural development for old works of media to be rediscovered, perpetuated, and iterated on by later generations, and the more stringently rightsholders crack down on people doing that, the more things will fall down the memory hole, leaving our current culture that much more vapid. With the decline of physical media, people can forget even more, since there isn't independent circulation of old works irrespective of the rightsholders' grand plans. Make fun of small businesses based on promoting older works being hobbled if you want, but in our current world, if you can't make money doing something, it's not likely to happen. Some "classics" only became known as such because they were financial failures in the short term and the owners decided to license the rights for cheap, or even were lost somehow. Inceltown posted:I'm kind of at the point where I think this is a naive look at it. Sure the money involved is a motivator but the shaping of cultural identity is more important. Literally the current state of things has been entirely created wholecloth by the NRA in the name of boosting gun profits. The NRA is the organization that pushed through the court system to reinterpret the constitution so that the amendment with the word regulate in it somehow means no regulations ever, and it's the NRA that is the vanguard of guns to swoop in and jizz money over everything to stop politicians from daring to change anything ever. They even ran a media company for a while to help the development of gun culture, god knows how you get rid of that. They are the most successful lobbying group in American history, and that's why politicians fear them.
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Oct 25, 2019 05:41
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That circles back to money. Money can be used to shape cultural views which allows money to be made. Money keeps track of the 'score' but power is the real goal. I guess what I'm trying to say is that destroying capitalism isn't enough.
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Oct 25, 2019 05:46
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Inceltown posted:"American Culture" is an oxymoron anyway. gently caress yeah, black and Hispanic and LGBTQ+ and poor people and all the combinations thereof and more can't have any culture, sweep that poo poo under the rug so we can feel cool and superior as we post and masturbate ourselves into a euphoric coma you loving imbecile
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Oct 25, 2019 05:47
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Screaming Idiot posted:gently caress yeah, black and Hispanic and LGBTQ+ and poor people and all the combinations thereof and more can't have any culture, sweep that poo poo under the rug so we can feel cool and superior as we post and masturbate ourselves into a euphoric coma you loving imbecile Yeah, I mean both the north and south continents when I say that and not white USA. 
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Oct 25, 2019 05:51
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I get that mass media is a bland shitshow designed by committee to extract the maximum amount of capital while designed to be as mind-numbing and inoffensive as possible while subtly (or not so subtly) pushing capitalistic/fascist/neoliberal narratives but when you ignore the fact that the people of America do have a culture and do have a story to tell you're creating a blank slate for them to impose those right-leaning narratives America isn't alone in this you utter loving nitwit
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Oct 25, 2019 05:51
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There are people other than straight white republicans and liberals in the USA
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Oct 25, 2019 05:53
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Screaming Idiot posted:There are people other than straight white republicans and liberals in the USA I'm not from the USA so your cultural exports don't really seem to represent that. This is easily going to become a slapfight between people who basically agree about things so lets just deal with the fact that you're a screaming idiot and I'd be an oxymoron if I could get my hands on oxy so am just a regular moron.
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Oct 25, 2019 05:58
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Inceltown posted:I'm not from the USA so your cultural exports don't really seem to represent that. Not super-related, but close and it fits the thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB_nX5chois
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Oct 25, 2019 06:04
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Colonel Cancer posted:The Machine Stops, I think? It's been posted in one of these threads before, good read. Exactly, I forgot the name and couldn't find it
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Oct 25, 2019 06:09
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redleader posted:anyone got a tldr as to why some people think that there is no way to stop american children from shooting up their schools? i just don't see how you can look at the world and conclude that yes, american schools must be this way and there is no way to stop the violence they consider the second civil war and possible collapse of the country that would result if substantial gun control were implemented an unacceptable price to pay, because they're cowards
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Oct 25, 2019 06:12
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Main Paineframe posted:yes, but "these new policies mean trouble for small businesses" is a significantly different conversation from "these new policies will forever rob Americans of valuable cultural artifacts", which is what the tweet was leaning toward The article has a lot more in it than that. It also talks about how killing of the independent and small theatres is really going to hurt independent film and documentary makers who are often minorities or women. If there are only a couple entry points for filmmakers because Disney controls theatres, it's hard for new and minority voices to be heard. It pointed of that Disney claimed 40% of ticket sales in 2018 and is likely to increase to 50% this year. They've brought back the practice of block booking, where in order to show a popular movie the theatre must show a total flop even if only a bare handful of people see it. It's a tactic designed to maximise the total number of screens showing Disney films and keep non-Disney films out of theatres as much as possible. Once independent and small theatres go, what's the point of even trying to make movies and documentaries anymore unless you're already in Disney's stable working on the next Marvel/cgi reboot/save the cat script? As the article mentions, Disney bought out Hulu as well as having their own service, so they're going to have enormous control on what people can see. There aren't many places to rent movies anymore, and streaming services have cut back on pre-2000 content, so cultural waters are getting increasingly shallow and access to past culture increasingly difficult. Enfys has issued a correction as of 06:33 on Oct 25, 2019 |
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Oct 25, 2019 06:30
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In an age where legitimate purchases are themselves immoral, a good person pirates. NPFDM = Never Pay For Disney Movies
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Oct 25, 2019 06:46
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because I dont live in america i basically have to pirate 90% of what I want to watch because it’s simply not available to purchase or watch legally.
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Oct 25, 2019 07:23
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Inceltown posted:I'm not from the USA so your cultural exports don't really seem to represent that. wow maybe it's as if we're a highly stratified society where only the ruling class is allowed to express opinions in the media, even the artistic niches
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Oct 25, 2019 07:33
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Inceltown posted:"American Culture" is an oxymoron anyway. Screaming Idiot posted:gently caress yeah, black and Hispanic and LGBTQ+ and poor people and all the combinations thereof and more can't have any culture, sweep that poo poo under the rug so we can feel cool and superior as we post and masturbate ourselves into a euphoric coma you loving imbecile you should both be ashamed of these posts
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Oct 25, 2019 10:39
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Farm Frenzy posted:you should both be ashamed of these posts Would regular shame that covers my post do because let me tell you about how I've got that covered.
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Oct 25, 2019 10:42
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Screaming Idiot made couple good posts in Warframe thread and I didn't know what to believe in anymore so I'm really glad that things are back to normal again In other news, I have been reading Judge Dredd again and I'm happy to report that we are still not at the level of Mega City since Facebook doesn't have your purchase/credit card data and people don't cheer to the police as they routinely execute people on streets. On other hand, no UBI either. 
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Oct 25, 2019 11:17
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