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OwlFancier posted:How despondent do you want to be? Personally I don't recommend it if you can avoid it. So stay away from sources of UK news until further notice. Got it. [edit] In 1259 the French ruler agreed to withdraw French support of English rebels in return for England renouncing its direct ties to the European mainland. Munin fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Oct 26, 2019 |
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Munin posted:So stay away from sources of UK news until further notice. Got it. I mean that's a good idea generally to be quite honest.
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Oct 26, 2019 02:49
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Honestly just go with the UKMT as your curated source, if it’s a load of shite the thread will tear it apart for you. Comedy option, listen to our terrible takes on the pod
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Oct 26, 2019 03:18
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I'm not sure Corbyn will win but I think he's worth giving it our best shot. I think the smear campaigns are reaching people and even people who ordinarily have a sound mind and socialist leanings in other conversations tell me they can't get behind him. For other people, socialism has become a dirty word. Terrorism is such an emotive issue for asshats that the hamas smears in particular are something I hear often. Also whoever came up with "unelectable" definitely went far. I hear that a lot. I want to give him the best shot because I don't think any of this opposition is worth conceding ground to. I think we need to win anyway or go down fighting. Putting anyone else in the driver's seat in response to asshattery is handing them their victory on a plate. From what I've heard around me, our main chance of avoiding Karl McCartney oddly comes from the Brexit party splitting the Tory vote. I'm inclined to think the Farage lovers around me will bottle it in the booth and go Tory, especially when McCartney is putting crap through everyone's letterbox that claims he was fighting for Brexit for decades.
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Oct 26, 2019 03:29
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“What other choice is there?” Is the best line to take with the people embedded in the unelectable shite. Do you vote for the tories and get more of the same shite that’s killed over 100,000 people? Do you vote for the yellow tories that enable the same thing? Do you vote for PC or SNP in the blind hope that a different kind of brexit will have something shiny on the other side that you can’t say with any certainty at all would be there? Do you toss your vote away with other smaller parties? Or do you vote for the only party offering any positive change for everyone on these godforsaken isles? The only one that is making the kinds of promises that you’d really like to come to fruition. At the end of the day, if you like the policies, the party with those policies should get your vote, just because the media line is that they won’t win doesn’t mean you shouldn’t vote the way that is right for you and the people you care about.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I personally think the 'winning here' slogan needs loving investigating. Ours is a Tory seat (though it's Vaisey, so that'll be interesting) and the Libs are sticking up those loving signs and spamming leaflets everywhere. Same area as you, and I hope Vaisey runs as an independent and splits the Tory vote.
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Oct 26, 2019 04:13
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https://twitter.com/rosagilbert/status/1187675221517656064?s=20
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Munin posted:So stay away from sources of UK news until further notice. Got it. The UK is the main source of UK news, yes.
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Oct 26, 2019 07:26
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Staying away from the UK also good advice.
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i cant check in to my flight back home to the uk cause i dont have a return ticket its the second leg of a round trip flight you loving morons
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bump_fn posted:i cant check in to my flight back home to the uk cause i dont have a return ticket And? You still have to check in for both directions separately.
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Oct 26, 2019 08:04
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Jedit posted:And? You still have to check in for both directions separately. no it wonrt let me check into my return flight because i dont have a flight out of the uk afterwards i assume this is cause i have a us passport
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Jedit posted:And? You still have to check in for both directions separately. I think they mean that for some reason the system is not letting them check in for the return flight part to the UK, because it's done something like decide that because they're a non-UK national, they need a flight back home to let them check in. I hope that's not what they mean, but is that what's happening bump? Edit: poo poo, yes, it is. Contact the airline. Something similar happened to my wife, and it was all 'oh, we just assumed it was a mistake because you're not a UK citizen'. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the hostile environment.
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Pesmerga posted:I think they mean that for some reason the system is not letting them check in for the return flight part to the UK, because it's done something like decide that because they're a non-UK national, they need a flight back home to let them check in. I hope that's not what they mean, but is that what's happening bump? yeah this weirdly its never happened before, even on previous flights to/from the us
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bump_fn posted:no Ah, I misunderstood, sorry. Nice to see that post-Brexit immigration is being handled sensibly and fairly, as we are also telling the only allies we've got that they're not welcome and should gently caress off back to where they came from.
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Oct 26, 2019 08:12
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bump_fn posted:yeah this Never to my (EU citizen) wife either, until the summer. I don't know whether the airlines have been informally leaned on or something is happening behind the scenes, but while our daughter and I had no problems, she had to contact the airline to fix the 'mistake'. Edit: She didn't have the problem where the travel was from the UK to Belgium, only when going to the same country as her passport was issued by. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. Pesmerga fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Oct 26, 2019 |
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Oct 26, 2019 08:16
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yaffle posted:Breedon hill chat, my (life long communist) grandfather read this at his own funeral, along with a number of jokes. The vicar looked so horrified when we suggested putting the tape recorder in the coffin that we didn't. That's a lovely poem I haven't seen before, thanks.
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AE Houseman https://www.britainexpress.com/counties/worcestershire/az/bredon-hill.htm
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Oct 26, 2019 08:22
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So uh, the EU really decided to not just give a loving extension? Are you kidding me with this poo poo? Jesus gently caress, just when everything was THIS close to not being completely 100% hosed
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jaete posted:So uh, the EU really decided to not just give a loving extension? Are you kidding me with this poo poo? Well they decided to grant an extension. It's just the length is up for debate still.
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jaete posted:So uh, the EU really decided to not just give a loving extension? Are you kidding me with this poo poo? Eh?
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Oct 26, 2019 08:54
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If Macron wasn't being a loving idiot then we'd have a locked extension to January 31st and a safe General Election.
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Oct 26, 2019 08:55
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Right yeah but I wasn't aware they'd issued any statement yet? They're supposed to be putting it out monday/tuesday no?
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https://www.politicalite.com/world/our-people-government-urged-to-provide-citizenship-for-hong-kongers/ THE BRITISH Government has been urged to spearhead an international campaign to provide citizenship for Hong Kongers who have become political refugees following Chinese crackdowns on the former British colony. A joint group of charities and over 170 Parliamentarians will urge the British Government to act and set up international cooperation. The deal would mean that Hong Kong citizens could reside in any country who signs up to the treaty. A spokesperson from the coalition said: “We are asking for efforts to be made internationally to secure agreement from other nations to provide second citizenship, right of abode for people in Hong Kong, if the situation deteriorates.” The motion will be heard Thursday in the House of Lords in a two and half hour debate. A spokesman for the group told Politicalite: “We need the international community to send a strong signal to Beijing that we are not going to abandon the people of Hong Kong.” Paddy Ashdown, said before he died last year that the government’s decision to revoke former British citizens the possibility of them living in the UK. “What we had done to the Hong Kong people was worse than Windrush,” he said. Benedict Rogers, Director of Hong Kong Watch, said the debate is a very important opportunity to remind the British Government of it’s responsibilities. “It will send a signal to Hong Kong and China that the British Parliament has not forgotten them.” He added: “Parliament and the government must live up to their responsibilities to Hong Kong, both moral and legal. And explore every avenue in offering the people of Hong Kong the support they need and deserve in their struggle to defend Hong Kong’s freedoms, human rights and autonomy.” A spokesperson from British Hong Kong, the UK organisation in support of the protesters said: ”Just give the Hong Kong BNO’s (British National Overseas passports) FULL British citizenship. Abolish the Joint Declaration because China has violated the Joint Declaration. Take back Hong Kong please UK.” The one country, two systems’ Joint Declaration strategy outlined in the withdrawal agreement has been the understanding after the UK gave Hong Kong back to China in 1997. The country was to have autonomy until 2047. But that has been slowly eroding as China is controlling the Executive of the country’s government. This is known as’ Universal Suffrage’ one of the five demands made by the protesters. To have 100% control of their country without interference from China.
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jaete posted:So uh, the EU really decided to not just give a loving extension? Are you kidding me with this poo poo? Calm down friend, the EU is giving us an extension. They're just playing silly buggers a bit.
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Oct 26, 2019 09:23
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Was having a think about this, and honestly, playing the brinksmanship game and winning on labours part over the extension before election could be a massive boost to labours negotiating credibility in the upcoming election with leave voters. No Deal won’t happen, all we need is that extension signed off before the 31st for all of the good poo poo to kick in.
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Oct 26, 2019 09:26
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At the very least I don't think taking orders from macron is going to do their popularity any good.
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Oct 26, 2019 09:29
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https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1187986970762457089?s=19 Whole lotta crabs in this bucket. "Jeremy, you're a wanker for suggesting that McDonalds workers should be paid more than nurses!!!" "£15/hr! That's more than I make in my managerial position and I've got a degree and 10 years in post! Labour need to live in the real world'" "£15 for flipping burgers? What, I suppose I'll go get a job at McDonald's and start making real money [row of crying-with-laughter smilies]" "So the serving staff will be earning more than the junior managers? How does that make sense JEREMY!? You really don't understand economics do you? lol" Just depressing how so many people have been primed to oppose things that would make their lives better...
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Oct 26, 2019 09:31
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amazing how much people will go through to ensure that other people don't have nice things.
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Oct 26, 2019 09:33
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It’s not so much the EU being silly buggers as them watching what’s going on and being so sick of the UK’s poo poo that they’re not doing anyone any favours. Macron is a dick, but his point (that some other Member States support) is that the EU can’t grant an extension based on whether the UK wants an election or whether it wants to pass the Bill, and the comments by the various different party leaders over the past 48 hours made things totally unclear. So now, they’re going to wait until we see what happens on Monday, and then give an extension with something suitably stroking of Macron’s ego, which presumably will be for end January or even later. But they want to avoid a position where the extension was given, the british media and BoJo go on about how it was a wrecking extension if the opposition parties then vote for an election. If they wait until BoJo either gives a binding commitment not to screw everyone during the election period, or the election is voted down, they can then give the extension as it wasn’t then used as the basis to push an election vote through. The ball is back in the UK’s court again at that point, because as the EU keeps making clear, it’s up to the U.K. to figure out what it wants.
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Junior G-Man spent most of yesterday screaming about this in the discord yesterday, and since he’s the pod’s EU correspondent I’m going to say that adds weight to his opinion  Basically, disregard Macron, it’s purely an act he’s playing, partially for his home audience and partially to be the bad cop to Ireland’s good cop. Right now, Macron appearing to be a oval office about this and preventing consensus is giving the EU the handy excuse of not being the deciding factor in whether or not we have an election. The EU doesn’t want no deal at all because of how hard it’ll gently caress Ireland so they’ll grant an extension either way before or on the 31st October, and right now the easiest one to give us is the 31st Jam because of the Benn act.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Junior G-Man spent most of yesterday screaming about this in the discord yesterday, and since he’s the pod’s EU correspondent I’m going to say that adds weight to his opinion This is exactly it. I should get in on the discord.
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You should, it’s great! Oh also, thanks to Whatevil and my mysterious benefactor who made donations to the Sanitary Naptime Trust Fund
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Oct 26, 2019 09:43
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I've only heard about Fight For Fifteen, which one's Sit And Expect Everything On A Silver Platter For Fifteen?
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I mean that is literally how I feel, I just start at the top and work down
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Guavanaut posted:I've only heard about Fight For Fifteen, which one's Sit And Expect Everything On A Silver Platter For Fifteen?
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OwlFancier posted:I mean that is literally how I feel, I just start at the top and work down starting with the head 
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