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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Discendo Vox posted:

I'm not blaming you at all, but I do want to point out that the posts that got him the axe were not the most virulent by a long shot, and they were a year old. Like, this has got roots.

I feel like if you're going to say this you should give us the greatest hits because the Uygher ones were :wow:

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Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

OwlFancier posted:

CSPAM is weird and I don't get it.

What exactly is the history/purpose of CSPAM and D&D being split? I can’t find any rundown on exactly what CSPAM “is” other than seeing that it tends to be way less welcoming to left-leaning liberals, demsocs, and anarchist-ty types and tolerates a small amount of tankie bullshit

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

What exactly is the history/purpose of CSPAM and D&D being split? I can’t find any rundown on exactly what CSPAM “is” other than seeing that it tends to be way less welcoming to left-leaning liberals, demsocs, and anarchist-ty types and tolerates a small amount of tankie bullshit

Afaik it's LF but not actually LF? It's supposedly D&D's fyad-lite that still doesn't allow anything that'd get lowtax visited by the Secret Service, idk

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Okay that makes sense, it becoming the more communist leaning forum was just sort of an emergent thing?

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
CSPAM is constantly on the cutting edge of coming to grips with the horrors of endstage capitalism and realising that the Democratic Party would much rather have Trump in office than Sanders, whether or not they have any means of removing either from power.
D&D is a cursed place where the leftmost acceptable political candidate is Elizabeth Warren.

The 2016 election was very much a radicalising moment for quite a lot of us.

Morroque
Mar 6, 2013
I first recall CSPAM appearing because of a weird time in which a lot of different countries had elections going on near the same time, by random chance. A lot of the DD election threads were moved there. At the time, it included the Canpol thread, and I wondered for a few days where it went.

Once all the elections passed, CSPAM became what it is now.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

cspam used to be ycs (your candidate sucks), the 2016 election subforum
it was lib central and took a sharp left turn after 11/9 which solidified pretty quickly

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Doctor Jeep posted:

cspam used to be ycs (your candidate sucks), the 2016 election subforum
it was lib central and took a sharp left turn after 11/9 which solidified pretty quickly

CSPAM was originally RSF: The Election Erection, and worked out well enough that we got made into a permanent subforum after a while, which is when the first name change happened. After the election, either ZDR or FAU decided we needed a better name and after a number of suggestions settled on CSPAM. While it has always had a strong leftist contingent, this became quite a bit stronger after the Most Qualified Candidate of All Time blew it to a bloated reality TV rapist who'd run his campaign entirely as a vanity exercise, and a lot of Hillary supporters saw the light, got banned for toxxing for her, or both.

Broadly speaking, it's intended to be a place to talk about politics and current events without necessarily having to hew to the stricter protocols of D&D, including but not limited to being able to call someone a stupid idiot hellfucker without having to exhaustive and tediously demonstrate that that is the case. Rumors that it also exists as a cautionary fable of where bad D&D threads/posters get sent are entirely unfounded. Honest.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
The ongoing revelations about the precise degree to which Hillary is a worthless idiot hellfucker and the precise degree to how badly she hosed each and every one of us radicalises more by the day.

CSPAM is an S-tier name.

polymathy
Oct 19, 2019
Is it reasonable to assume that most of you are Bernie supporters? I would think that he's the guy you'd most prefer get the Democratic nomination.

However, I could imagine some of you being far enough Left that you'd consider Bernie a sell-out and a milquetoast moderate. He did endorse Hillary in 2016, after all.

If I had to pick one candidate I'd most like to win at this point, it would be Tulsi Gabbard by a mile. She's telling the truth about our foreign policy and you see how she's treated for touching that third rail of American politics.

So, which candidate are you supporting? And what is your opinion of Tulsi?

LawrenceFriday
Nov 2, 2009

I am an elemental spirit summoned up from the Land of the Dead itself and given one purpose, one skill, one desire: To DRIVE. Or, to change oil or adjust timing belts if no driving jobs are open.

polymathy posted:

Is it reasonable to assume that most of you are Bernie supporters? I would think that he's the guy you'd most prefer get the Democratic nomination.

However, I could imagine some of you being far enough Left that you'd consider Bernie a sell-out and a milquetoast moderate. He did endorse Hillary in 2016, after all.

If I had to pick one candidate I'd most like to win at this point, it would be Tulsi Gabbard by a mile. She's telling the truth about our foreign policy and you see how she's treated for touching that third rail of American politics.

So, which candidate are you supporting? And what is your opinion of Tulsi?

:bisonyes:

Not even remotely involved in the thread thusfar, but...

1.) Whether I prefer Sanders or Warren depends on my mood, the weather, how well seasoned my last meal was. Either would be a really solid step in the right direction. They both have policies I agree with and policies I think could use work.

2.) When Gabbard joins Fox as the token "Socialists pushed me out of the Democrat party", I will dutifully place a chip on my bingo card.

American foreign policy sucks. Tulsi Gabbard also sucks. She's not the worst option, but unseasoned boiled vegetables are also not the worst technically-edible meal.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

polymathy posted:

Is it reasonable to assume that most of you are Bernie supporters?
Or bust.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

polymathy posted:

Is it reasonable to assume that most of you are Bernie supporters? I would think that he's the guy you'd most prefer get the Democratic nomination.

However, I could imagine some of you being far enough Left that you'd consider Bernie a sell-out and a milquetoast moderate. He did endorse Hillary in 2016, after all.

If I had to pick one candidate I'd most like to win at this point, it would be Tulsi Gabbard by a mile. She's telling the truth about our foreign policy and you see how she's treated for touching that third rail of American politics.

So, which candidate are you supporting? And what is your opinion of Tulsi?

so...trump supporter, eh?

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

polymathy posted:

Is it reasonable to assume that most of you are Bernie supporters? I would think that he's the guy you'd most prefer get the Democratic nomination.

However, I could imagine some of you being far enough Left that you'd consider Bernie a sell-out and a milquetoast moderate. He did endorse Hillary in 2016, after all.

If I had to pick one candidate I'd most like to win at this point, it would be Tulsi Gabbard by a mile. She's telling the truth about our foreign policy and you see how she's treated for touching that third rail of American politics.

So, which candidate are you supporting? And what is your opinion of Tulsi?

God I hope this is ironic

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





jsyk polymathy is a purestrain ancap who recently shat up the climate change thread with his ancap bullshit

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Venomous posted:

jsyk polymathy is a purestrain ancap who recently shat up the climate change thread with his ancap bullshit

Right, so he has no idea that this thread is for making fun of libertarians.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Venomous posted:

jsyk polymathy is a purestrain ancap who recently shat up the climate change thread with his ancap bullshit

Propertarians loving suck and sully the good and noble name of the anarchist.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





forkboy84 posted:

Propertarians loving suck and sully the good and noble name of the anarchist.

Also sullying the good name of the libertarian, a name which - it cannot be stated enough - was stolen from libertarian socialists

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

I think the best analogy is that Tulsi is to the Dems what Jason Unruhe, or whatever his name is, is to the left.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

I think the best analogy is that Tulsi is to the Dems what Jason Unruhe, or whatever his name is, is to the left.

Is this Jason guy also a rabid supporter of Muslim global genocide?

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Til a new abbreviation.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Tubgoat posted:

Or bust.

drat straight.

Venomous posted:

jsyk polymathy is a purestrain ancap who recently shat up the climate change thread with his ancap bullshit

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Non-interference being a natural right only arising from biological thresholds is a great one for the climate change debate.

Ligotti posted:

Stringently considered, then, our only natural birthright is a right to die. No other right has ever been allocated to anyone except as a fabrication, whether in modern times or days past.

Grace Baiting
Jul 20, 2012

Audi famam illius;
Cucurrit quaeque
Tetigit destruens.



Grace Baiting, in June 2018 posted:

I am glad I was here with all of you, thread. Here at the end of Jrodefeld 2: RealTalk Harder.



    jrodefeld will return in...
    Live and Let Die

    2020

drat, I was off by ~2ish months

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

polymathy posted:

Is it reasonable to assume that most of you are Bernie supporters? I would think that he's the guy you'd most prefer get the Democratic nomination.

However, I could imagine some of you being far enough Left that you'd consider Bernie a sell-out and a milquetoast moderate. He did endorse Hillary in 2016, after all.

If I had to pick one candidate I'd most like to win at this point, it would be Tulsi Gabbard by a mile. She's telling the truth about our foreign policy and you see how she's treated for touching that third rail of American politics.

So, which candidate are you supporting? And what is your opinion of Tulsi?

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007


WTF, why would political and economic elites enforce equality? Wouldn't they no longer be "elite"?

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Cpt_Obvious posted:

WTF, why would political and economic elites enforce equality? Wouldn't they no longer be "elite"?
God-tier username/post combo.

Tulsi is for sure a honeypot, in a variety of ways.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
For me Tulsi is mainly an illustration of how the neoliberal, neoconservative project is so loving awful that a paleocon looks progressive in comparison.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Halloween Jack posted:

For me Tulsi is mainly an illustration of how the neoliberal, neoconservative project is so loving awful that a paleocon looks progressive in comparison.
Also some sorta weird Hare Krishna offshoot cultist.

I say, as I begin to accept Bernie's divine appointment as a literal agent of Heaven. :classiclol:

Caros
May 14, 2008

Grace Baiting posted:

drat, I was off by ~2ish months

Grace Baiting, I served with Jrodefeld. I knew Jrodefeld. Jrodefeld was a hilarious loon. Grace baiting, that man is no Jrodefeld.

quote:

Is it reasonable to assume that most of you are Bernie supporters? I would think that he's the guy you'd most prefer get the Democratic nomination.

That, or Warren I'd suspect for most of us. I'm actually not sure how most of the thread goes, but the people in this thread think libertarians are dumb, so Bernie is a good bet.

quote:

However, I could imagine some of you being far enough Left that you'd consider Bernie a sell-out and a milquetoast moderate. He did endorse Hillary in 2016, after all.

If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.

But no, I doubt it. Forum culture doesn't typically seem to go so far left as to be indistinguishable from parody.

quote:

If I had to pick one candidate I'd most like to win at this point, it would be Tulsi Gabbard by a mile. She's telling the truth about our foreign policy and you see how she's treated for touching that third rail of American politics.

You know this is the libertarian thread, right? I mean, you do you, but Tulsi 'Friend of the centuries most brutal dictator' Gabbard isn't exactly a libertarian poster child.

quote:

So, which candidate are you supporting? And what is your opinion of Tulsi?

Bernie, probs? I'm canadian so I'm just hoping you guys don't get another electoral college president with dementia.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Libertarians love dictators, though. Does she need an economics degree from the U of Chicago to cinch it?

Caros
May 14, 2008

Halloween Jack posted:

Libertarians love dictators, though. Does she need an economics degree from the U of Chicago to cinch it?

Touche.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Warren is radioactive waste, she exists SOLELY as a stalking horse set out by Capital to try to peel off the more gullible votership.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Caros posted:

That, or Warren I'd suspect for most of us. I'm actually not sure how most of the thread goes, but the people in this thread think libertarians are dumb, so Bernie is a good bet.

I am leaning Warren but that is more because I am worried about the effects of aging really starting to catch up with Bernie due to the added stress of being president.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Hunt11 posted:

I am leaning Warren but that is more because I am worried about the effects of aging really starting to catch up with Bernie due to the added stress of being president.
I'm going to be charitable and assume racism is the reason you don't want president Nina Turner.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Tubgoat posted:

I'm going to be charitable and assume racism is the reason you don't want president Nina Turner.

1. As a general point gently caress off.
2. From what I can see Bernie hasn't announced a running mate.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Hunt11 posted:

1. As a general point gently caress off.
2. From what I can see Bernie hasn't announced a running mate.
I. The noncharitable reading is you're a class traitor.
II. It's Nina Turner. Get on board.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
You don't have to be mean to point out all the ways that Warren is obviously and inexcusably terrible.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Halloween Jack posted:

You don't have to be mean to point out all the ways that Warren is obviously and inexcusably terrible.
Fine. :colbert:

Edit: I'm sorry for calling you a traitor, Hunt11, but please don't vote for the Capitalist-RPing-as-a-nonspecified-First-Nations-person.

Tubgoat fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Oct 28, 2019

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Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

PSL putting Gloria La Riva and Leonard Peltier on the ticket is a strong draw, but electability concerns put me firmly in the Sanders camp.

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