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Thranguy posted:This is a world where not only TV-X is a rating that exists, but shows with that rating get national ad campaigns.
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Uh what the gently caress was with the UFO. So is the old man actually psychic? I'm kinda confused about Judd if he was a KKK member who did crack in front of Angela and Calvin, how did he not go around saying blatantly racist poo poo when he was on crack? I've never taken crack, but my understanding is it lowers your inhibitions? Curious about the libstapo but I suspect we're seeing it.
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Oct 28, 2019 04:42
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The UFO was another Owlship, maybe piloted by the superhero friends of the old man. Assuming the theories about him being a former masked vigilante are correct. He did mention he had powerful friends. As to why he is so important, or why they were waiting for him right there who knows. He did mention something about big things happening in Tulsa
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Oct 28, 2019 04:46
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bunny colvin as newspaper dude was great, and treasury secretary henry louis gates made me lol. i'm so curious to see where this show goes, my reaction to the end was the same as angela's
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Oct 28, 2019 04:46
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DuhSal posted:that conversation with regina king and the old man gave me some lost vibes too in how the dialogue withheld information but somebody linked earlier how the show was written with an ending to the season and the mysteries set up will be resolved, so I have faith it will end better or at least have answers. tell me lies tell me sweet little lies Yeah, I'm done with the show. If I wanted to see Watchmen mystery box fanfic that barely gets what the original was all about, makes no sense and is just a general bore, I'd read Doomsday Clock. Cha-ching!
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Oct 28, 2019 04:59
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:I'm kinda confused about Judd if he was a KKK member who did crack in front of Angela and Calvin, how did he not go around saying blatantly racist poo poo when he was on crack? I've never taken crack, but my understanding is it lowers your inhibitions? Hey hey, crack cocaine and cocaine are different things. It turns you in to the guy in the bathroom who wont stop talking to everyone.
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Oct 28, 2019 05:06
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Mr. Nemo posted:The UFO was another Owlship, maybe piloted by the superhero friends of the old man. Assuming the theories about him being a former masked vigilante are correct. He did mention he had powerful friends. As to why he is so important, or why they were waiting for him right there who knows. He did mention something about big things happening in Tulsa I feel like american hero story is signalling some stuff about him. "If you knew who I was, you wouldn't watch til the end." His friends probably saw his DNA analyzed and knew it was time to scoop him up. Also, she was going to take him in, he said they wouldn't let that happen. What was up with the white man on Angela's porch? Is she raising his kids or something, some sort of child placement thing for white families?
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Oct 28, 2019 05:09
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KoRMaK posted:What was up with the white man on Angela's porch? Is she raising his kids or something, some sort of child placement thing for white families? I think he's their grandfather, and maybe they were kids orphaned during the White Night that the Abars adopted? Her conversation with the oldest kid feels like it hints to that.
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Oct 28, 2019 05:11
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KoRMaK posted:What was up with the white man on Angela's porch? Is she raising his kids or something, some sort of child placement thing for white families? Angela adopted the kids of her killed partner. The white guy I assume is some kind of relative of theirs looking for handouts (most likely 'getting the redfordations back').
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Oct 28, 2019 05:11
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Tenzarin posted:Hey hey, crack cocaine and cocaine are different things. It turns you in to the guy in the bathroom who wont stop talking to everyone. Yea don't besmirtch the classy cocaine. Crack is for poor people, crafted by the CIA to destroy black communities
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KoRMaK posted:I feel like american hero story is signalling some stuff about him. "If you knew who I was, you wouldn't watch til the end." His friends probably saw his DNA analyzed and knew it was time to scoop him up. Also, she was going to take him in, he said they wouldn't let that happen. The kids are in all likelihood her partner that was murdered on the White Night. Jim Beaver is in all likelihood the children’s biological grandfather and is entitled to some sort of visitation rights.
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KoRMaK posted:
She's raising her dead partner's kids; I assume he's a brother or brother-in-law who legally has visitation rights of some sort.
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Oct 28, 2019 05:13
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DuhSal posted:that conversation with regina king and the old man gave me some lost vibes too in how the dialogue withheld information but somebody linked earlier how the show was written with an ending to the season and the mysteries set up will be resolved, so I have faith it will end better or at least have answers. Interviewer posted:...you’re not only diving into very hot button topics but you’re handling them in such a way that viewers can read whatever they want into their meaning. You’re avoiding moralizing... David Lindelof posted:The read is completely accurate... It is not real. Although it is dealing with real issues and it’s meant to generate and provoke conversations and emotions we have to contextualize that this is fiction... You have to jump in with some degree of forethought and responsibility and then afterward you can ask yourself why you did it famously apolitical graphic novel Watchmen. some 'degree' of forethought but then ask questions about your story after it's done?? where's the lie David???? 
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Oct 28, 2019 05:16
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DuhSal posted:that conversation with regina king and the old man gave me some lost vibes too in how the dialogue withheld information but somebody linked earlier how the show was written with an ending to the season and the mysteries set up will be resolved, so I have faith it will end better or at least have answers. This is a character intentionally being an rear end in a top hat and misleading someone, not your usual TV just not talking about things they should be.
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Oct 28, 2019 05:27
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I love how absolutely insane they're making Adrian. Just like he always was. Rorschach was the only one who was right about that lunatic. BEASTIE BOYS
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Oct 28, 2019 05:47
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I think it's way too early to cry foul about mystery box writing. This is meant to be a story that can be satisfyingly told in one season. Anyways I reread the comic over the past few days, paying special attention to the Hooded Justice character. The robbery scene might be a riff on Snyder, but it's accurate to what Under The Hood says about HJ's debut being brutal. If we're running with the theory that the old man is actually HJ, perhaps the WW1 era German propaganda is meant to explain his pro German comments Mason remembers as being pro Nazi.
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Oct 28, 2019 05:49
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According to reviewers the Louis Gossett Jr “mystery box” is resolved by episode 6.
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Oct 28, 2019 05:54
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Supreme Allah posted:BEASTIE BOYS I laughed hard at the small detail of him pulling the egg out of the water leading to that song playing over the credits. Mantis42 posted:Anyways I reread the comic over the past few days, paying special attention to the Hooded Justice character. The robbery scene might be a riff on Snyder, but it's accurate to what Under The Hood says about HJ's debut being brutal. Yeah, I think it's absolutely a Snyder reference, but I don't consider it too much of a piss take.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:01
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Mantis42 posted:I think it's way too early to cry foul about mystery box writing. This is meant to be a story that can be satisfyingly told in one season. it should be noted that the "Watch Over This Boy" note was written on the back of that propaganda paper, so it wouldn't have been him who got it (probably his father) but he definitely could have read it/sympathized with the Germans because of his experience. Show ended with Beastie Boys, show good.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:02
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yeah idk this show seems really bad sometimes. Sometimes its good and I'm into it and then some dumb poo poo happens. idk chief
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Oct 28, 2019 06:04
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Veidt casually burning people alive was some  poo poo
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Oct 28, 2019 06:07
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You’re all ignoring the tomato tree and I’m very disappointed.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:13
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I definitely think he’s trying to create a new dr Manhattan that he can control
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Oct 28, 2019 06:15
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LesterGroans posted:I laughed hard at the small detail of him pulling the egg out of the water leading to that song playing over the credits. I wondered about that, but that was the second time he didn't seem to care about extreme heat - earlier in the show he just downed a mug of fresh coffee. Might be reading too much into it, but they specifically made a point to show Angela making a "what the gently caress?" face at him chugging the scalding coffee.
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Preston Waters posted:Veidt casually burning people alive was some Veidt has so much murders hovering on his head there's no way a single murder even registers anymore and this show is acknowledging it. Human life to him is like less than the life of an ant, he's a real sickie.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:18
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Cool, i called it. I'd watch the gently caress out of HJ taking out old timey mooks.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:20
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Rocksicles posted:Cool, i called it. Called what? Chief being 7th cav? That costume could have been his dad's or something.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:22
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HexiDave posted:I wondered about that, but that was the second time he didn't seem to care about extreme heat - earlier in the show he just downed a mug of fresh coffee. Might be reading too much into it, but they specifically made a point to show Angela making a "what the gently caress?" face at him chugging the scalding coffee. Yeah, him chugging the coffee and then pulling the egg out of boiling water like it was nothing were definite signs for Angela.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:26
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Preston Waters posted:Called what? Chief being 7th cav? That costume could have been his dad's or something. Rocksicles posted:We going to find out the chief was one of the 7th Cav ? Yeah might could be his dads, but having a antique klan outfit still really sells the whole thing.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:28
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Supreme Allah posted:Veidt has so much murders hovering on his head there's no way a single murder even registers anymore and this show is acknowledging it. God, the play was so funny/horrifying.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:30
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The newsie mentioning towns with squid showers at least in their 2019 the Soviet Union is still around.
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If Judd is the second gunman and the writers made it to where Judd purposefully hit Angela in the stomach as if he knew that would be non-fatal, I'm going to be really disappointed.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:33
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wolfs posted:You’re all ignoring the tomato tree and I’m very disappointed. And the third appearance of ~the castle~ with Regina King's kid making one out of...uhhh...hovering tinker toys?  double negative posted:bunny colvin as newspaper dude was great, and treasury secretary henry louis gates made me lol. i'm so curious to see where this show goes, my reaction to the end was the same as angela's Sheeeeeeeeeee-it... 
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Oct 28, 2019 06:34
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LesterGroans posted:Yeah, I think it's absolutely a Snyder reference, but I don't consider it too much of a piss take. uh what on color saturation alone this isn't a snyder riff, it's very specifically doing the heightened reality of Ryan Murphy's shows, see: American Crime Story S2, latter American Horror Story, Glee, whatever else he's been producing
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ElNarez posted:uh what It could be both. Id say the speed ramping and compositions are absolutely referencing the Snyder film.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:57
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KoRMaK posted:His friends probably saw his DNA analyzed and knew it was time to scoop him up. If you have the show recorded, watch that scene again, but look just slightly behind Angela. edit: actually after looking at that scene with a different light on, nevermind, the figure was turned around.
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Hooded Justice in American Hero Story is played by Cheyenne Jackson, who is a regular on Ryan Murphy's shows. He was on both Glee and American Horror Story (as well as 30 Rock, but that's not ryan murphy, it's just good tv)
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stratofarius posted:If I wanted to see Watchmen mystery box fanfic that barely gets what the original was all about, quote:makes no sense quote:just a general bore, I'm impressed by the connections this show is making with the comics, some subtle some not. Like HJ making pro-German comments and then you see the pamphlets on the show, Sister Night finding Judd's klan robe being similar to Rorschach finding the Comedian's costume (and the whole mystery around both Judd and the Comedian's deaths being used as the primary narrative vehicle), or Looking Glass following so many of the same personality tics as Rorschach, like never taking his mask off, crying under his mask, and having an affinity for snacks. Obviously some of these connections are just superficial fanservice, but it's still fun and it encourages people to read (or re-read) the original comics. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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ElNarez posted:uh what It's both. Obviously with the name and casting it's a Ryan Murphy riff, but to me it also seems like a play on Snyder's version of Watchmen. Don't get me wrong, I think his Watchmen movie is great, but this seemed like a way to incorporate it playfully. LesterGroans fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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LookingGodIntheEye posted:You're two episodes in and you expect the whole plot to be rolled out in front of you? ... what??? Lack of logic and plot progression are two completely different things.
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