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ate poo poo on live tv posted:In NGU Idle is there a way to make your basic training faster that I'm missing, or is that a more end game thing? I'm currently around Boss 47 or so, and just doing rebirths to get my basic training energy costs to zero. Seems very slow, so I'm wondering if I'm overlooking a mechanic that I have access to right now. You can reduce energy costs for Basic Training skills up to 10% for each rebirth - if you hover and the number is green it'll also say (maximum reduction for this rebirth) - you get it by having about 11,000 levels in that skill. If you keep doing 1-hr rebirths it'll come in time. You'll find yourself saying "Meh, 10k energy isn't that much" long before your skill caps all get down to 1. Pushing adventure zones is how you unlock a lot of the new features, so don't neglect that. Energy Cap * Energy Power is your total effective power - so don't neglect energy cap too. The 350energy /sec does nothing once you're capped for the rebirth (for now) Magic is expensive but necessary too - blood magic is a good way to scale up your number.
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Devor posted:You can reduce energy costs for Basic Training skills up to 10% for each rebirth - if you hover and the number is green it'll also say (maximum reduction for this rebirth) - you get it by having about 11,000 levels in that skill. If you keep doing 1-hr rebirths it'll come in time. You'll find yourself saying "Meh, 10k energy isn't that much" long before your skill caps all get down to 1. It's been a while since I've played the early phases, but I remember that Magic, and many other mechanics took a while before they were actually useful. Make sure to be vocal about where you get stuck or what's difficult early on, end-game players aren't the only people who count, so either let's figure out how to get over difficult parts, or let the dev know what's overly difficult.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:In NGU Idle is there a way to make your basic training faster that I'm missing, or is that a more end game thing? I'm currently around Boss 47 or so, and just doing rebirths to get my basic training energy costs to zero. Seems very slow, so I'm wondering if I'm overlooking a mechanic that I have access to right now. you probably will want to start increasing energy, so you can feed the time machine, and use it to buy more augmentations while using magic to increase your number after that, probably should start spending EXP on increasing your adventure mode capability, since you're at the point where you need to start improving gear for later encounters
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Oct 27, 2019 04:03
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At the rate you get EXP at that point, you won't really make much of a dent in adventure mode stats. Better to spend it on energy and magic, and then in turn let that magic work for you by getting adventure mode stats from iron pill. I found adventure mode stats to be much more of an "oh hey, this is actually decent now" EXP buy, around the time I started getting 24 hour exp fruit.
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Oct 27, 2019 08:10
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Energy and Magic never stop being useful while adventure stats have better sources than XP spends. Just keep feeding XP into Energy or Magic when it feels useful + the extras. Never spend XP on adventure stats.
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Oct 27, 2019 10:16
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Vil posted:At the rate you get EXP at that point, you won't really make much of a dent in adventure mode stats. Better to spend it on energy and magic, and then in turn let that magic work for you by getting adventure mode stats from iron pill. I didn't buy any until end of evil, and only then so I could hurry up and hit sadistic
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Oct 27, 2019 10:52
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The game becomes unplayable after Boss 100. Doctor Wahwee is misspelled in the first paragraph. It'd be great if there was a micro-button that displayed a log of all recent tooltip messages because some of them fly by so fast...
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Oct 27, 2019 13:04
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Blattdorf posted:The game becomes unplayable after Boss 100. Doctor Wahwee is misspelled in the first paragraph. The tool tip log is under info and stuff.
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Oct 27, 2019 13:06
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fez_machine posted:The tool tip log is under info and stuff. Egg on my face. Thanks!
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Oct 27, 2019 13:37
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Vil posted:At the rate you get EXP at that point, you won't really make much of a dent in adventure mode stats. Better to spend it on energy and magic, and then in turn let that magic work for you by getting adventure mode stats from iron pill. I didn't mean adventure mode stats, I meant more or less the miscellaneous tab. so you can merge and boost stuff so you're ready for the titans OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Oct 27, 2019 |
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Oct 27, 2019 16:10
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fez_machine posted:Energy and Magic never stop being useful while adventure stats have better sources than XP spends. Just keep feeding XP into Energy or Magic when it feels useful + the extras. Never spend XP on adventure stats. I bought adventure stats and it was cool and good.
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Oct 27, 2019 17:20
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So what energy and magic ratio is best for entering evil? I think I’m ready to dip my toes in.
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Oct 27, 2019 17:38
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What is the respawn hardcap? 1 second? Does the Sadistic NGU mean we can take off respawn gear finally? Im at 1,06 second respawn now.
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Oct 27, 2019 18:07
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0 seconds is the cap, but there is a 1 second attack timer after the spawn timet so 1s spawn is 2s per kill so you get some pretty heavy diminishing returns past 1s respawn and what I've personally settled on.
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Oct 27, 2019 18:38
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Sexual Aluminum posted:So what energy and magic ratio is best for entering evil? I think I’m ready to dip my toes in. I think I was 3:1 and working towards 1:1
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Oct 27, 2019 21:20
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In case anyone still hasn't tried it, NGU is real good and you totally should spend all your time watching these numbers go up over other numbers in other lesser games.
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Oct 27, 2019 22:38
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A lot of us have been playing for over a year, there's a ton of content
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Oct 27, 2019 23:40
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I'm feeling kinda bored with it personally. At around the time when you finally can kill Uug but before you have him on autokill it feels like there's nothing to do but very very slowly build up beards and adventure NGUs for days. Maybe it's just my own personal taste, and it feels weird to say this, but I like the more 'active' idle games where you're basically always doing something that FEELS like progress. Right now I'm mostly watching two very slow multipliers climb up to a point where I might be able to make a leap again. Kinda dull. But that's just my opinion and personal taste in idlers I suppose.
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Oct 28, 2019 07:11
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Incremental Adventure just updated to add a new prestige meta-layer 'Ascension'.quote:OCT 25, 2019 1:02PM You know, for like, if you're getting bored with NGU.
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Merijn posted:Incremental Adventure just updated to add a new prestige meta-layer 'Ascension'. I check into this every once in a while cause it's fun and the dev keeps adding stuff. At which layer does ascension activate?
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Merijn posted:Incremental Adventure just updated to add a new prestige meta-layer 'Ascension'.
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GrossMurpel posted:I check into this every once in a while cause it's fun and the dev keeps adding stuff. At which layer does ascension activate? Prestige Layer 20, I believe.
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Merijn posted:Incremental Adventure just updated to add a new prestige meta-layer 'Ascension'. I am pretty bored right now so might as well try, wonder if it still breaks when your stats are too big
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Infinity Gaia posted:I'm feeling kinda bored with it personally. At around the time when you finally can kill Uug but before you have him on autokill it feels like there's nothing to do but very very slowly build up beards and adventure NGUs for days. Maybe it's just my own personal taste, and it feels weird to say this, but I like the more 'active' idle games where you're basically always doing something that FEELS like progress. Right now I'm mostly watching two very slow multipliers climb up to a point where I might be able to make a leap again. Kinda dull. But that's just my opinion and personal taste in idlers I suppose. It sounds like we may just have different tastes in idle games and that's cool but I will say there are definitely spots like that in NGU that I've gone through too that I was thinking about giving it up because nothing was happening, but after a while I break through by getting a piece of new gear or unlock a new mechanic and then everything kind of snowballs for a while. It's like this door opens up that has always been there but locked since I've been playing and it makes things new and fresh again. I think NGU starts out more active and as you progress further becomes much more passive as you start doing 24hr runs and have to micromanage less systems, so I can definitely see where someone looking for a more active experience may lose steam around this point.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Are those actually two up arrows or is that a formatting thing, because now I really want a game that just goes absolutely ham with up-arrow notation. Yeah it has some funky notation if you get beyond e100000 I think. My level regularly looks like e1.6e8 or something. 
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Are those actually two up arrows or is that a formatting thing, because now I really want a game that just goes absolutely ham with up-arrow notation. What idle game has the largest numbers? It honestly feels like there’s still plenty of unexplored wild math territory out there.
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Oct 28, 2019 19:22
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Someone make Graham's idler
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Oct 28, 2019 19:27
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Captain Foo posted:Someone make Graham's idler Too small.
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Obviously you should call the large number idle game Busy Beaver okay there's my contribution someone go make it now edit: lmao I love how tiny the superscripts get on the Wikipedia page, even for a number "only" as small as 10^10^10^10^18705353 DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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Pigbuster posted:What idle game has the largest numbers? It honestly feels like there’s still plenty of unexplored wild math territory out there. Antimatter Dimensions goes over infinite several times, probably that
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Samuringa posted:Antimatter Dimensions goes over infinite several times, probably that infinite would likely just be a simple 1e308 or so, which if you use Big Int or a custom number (say keep I dunno 12 significant places and then store the exponent in another variable) you can get much higher since even if they hit infinite 10 times it'd only be 1e3080, nowhere near as large as incremental adventure which is using a custom number system because the dev can't balance anything and nothing interesting happens in that game other than seeing numbers hit 1e1e9 (1e1,000,000,000).
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Sexual Aluminum posted:So what energy and magic ratio is best for entering evil? I think I’m ready to dip my toes in. Most people start working towards 1:1 around that point, but you can always drop back out of Evil if it feels like too much of a wall for you.
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cum calamity posted:Most people start working towards 1:1 around that point, but you can always drop back out of Evil if it feels like too much of a wall for you. If you can idle in evilverse you should go evil. Although the new hotness is skipping it for ppp I think
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Samuringa posted:I am pretty bored right now so might as well try, wonder if it still breaks when your stats are too big One day and the Prestige is already broken, the _ Floors From Death from layers 2 and 3 somehow nullified the whole thing and I begin from Floor 1 anyway.
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Probably a day late and a dollar short, but a few weeks ago I gave it a shot, and I've fallen down the dark rabbit hole known as NGU. Definitely not making this post just so 4G knows I'm an active goon, in order to get free NGU stuff. Nope! UScr00ge fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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UScr00ge posted:Probably a day late and a dollar short, but a few weeks ago I gave it a shot, and I've fallen down the dark rabbit hole known as NGU. its never too late to find a new thing you enjoy, or to grovel.
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UScr00ge posted:Probably a day late and a dollar short, but a few weeks ago I gave it a shot, and I've fallen down the dark rabbit hole known as NGU. I'm beginning to think this might be some sort of marketing gimmick on Something's part That crafty capitalist
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I should bug Something about the free pack, but eh, that's too much like effort. That seems counter the point of this thread.
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Randalor posted:I should bug Something about the free pack, but eh, that's too much like effort. That seems counter the point of this thread. yeah ita mostly replaced my old kingdom of loathing fix
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:yeah There's a KoL reference boss in NGU! Our boy thought of everything.
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