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There's something in episode 2 that I saw apparently incorrectly according to random online recaps: When Topher is playing with the castle toy, I took the floating as evidence that he is a psychic, which works with Sister Night's reaction to when Will says he's a psychic. But everyone else seems to think the toy itself was just some floating toy. Am I totally off base here? Or did others think the same?
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I assumed it was a toy, but didn't discount the other possibility.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:30
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Both are distinct possibilities at this point. The show is obviously not going to give us everything at once. I really wish it was bingeable.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:32
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I assumed psychic myself, ESPECIALLY with the way it crashes down into pieces at the end of that section which mimics the footage we saw of John building sandcastles on mars. John also dashes his to bits at the end.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:32
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I guess it wasn’t definitively clear but it looked to me like it was hovering over some kind of magnetic metal platform.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:34
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I'm confused, why are you guys even talking about the Third Reich? The Germans in the opening scene were from WW1, there's a portrait of Kaiser Wilhelm on the wall behind the guy's desk, and the flier the guy catches is the same one he wrote the note on, 'watch over this boy', during the Tulsa Race Riot which happened in 1921, long before the Nazis. vvv Ah sorry, I haven't read the book in ages and remember very little about it. Family Values fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Oct 29, 2019 18:36
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Family Values posted:I'm confused, why are you guys even talking about the Third Reich? The Germans in the opening scene were from WW1, there's a portrait of Kaiser Wilhelm on the wall behind the guy's desk, and the flier the guy catches is the same one he wrote the note on, 'watch over this boy', during the Tulsa Race Riot which happened in 1921, long before the Nazis. They’re not talking about that scene, they’re talking about a line from the watchmen comics regarding Hooded Justice.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:37
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Family Values posted:I'm confused, why are you guys even talking about the Third Reich? The Germans in the opening scene were from WW1, there's a portrait of Kaiser Wilhelm on the wall behind the guy's desk, and the flier the guy catches is the same one he wrote the note on, 'watch over this boy', during the Tulsa Race Riot which happened in 1921, long before the Nazis. There is a theory about who Will is. If the theory is correct, based on supplemental material in Watchmen (lengthy excerpts from an in-world autobiography of Hollis Mason, the first Nite Owl), he ended up being pro-third reich...until Pearl Harbor. Will's possession of that note from a young age and seeing firsthand the Black Wall Street Massacre is a plausible setup of that.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:38
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DividedFrame posted:Don't miss the news clipping on Peteypedia, it explains that Judd Crawford served in Vietnam under Robert Mueller - yes, that one. That's interesting because the name Mueller comes up twice in the episode. The German woman who takes the officers dictation is named Mueller as is the dead man at the beginning of hero story.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:41
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Speaking of, I wonder what Donald J Trump is up to in this timeline
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Oct 29, 2019 18:43
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Colonel Whitey posted:Speaking of, I wonder what Donald J Trump is up to in this timeline After Redfordations? Probably had a coronary and died.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:45
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I binged both episodes last night and I have a dumb theory for Jeremy Irons character using characters from The Good Place to explain it. Manhattan is Janet. Jeremy Irons is Derek. Butlers/Maids are Irons attempt to act like Manhattan but because he's not as good as Manhattan they all look the same and are dumb.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:51
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Colonel Whitey posted:Speaking of, I wonder what Donald J Trump is up to in this timeline Hopefully the Institute for Interspatial Studies had a prime location near Trump Tower.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:58
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RFX posted:There's something in episode 2 that I saw apparently incorrectly according to random online recaps: I wondered which it was during the episode. My thinking is that it's meant to be foreshadowing.
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Oct 29, 2019 19:15
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Zoracle Zed posted:...are you serious? Goons being sheltered as gently caress isn't some radical notion.
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Oct 29, 2019 19:18
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KoRMaK posted:"Im not a Nazi, I'm a communist" a sentiment I unfortunately only would have understood thanks to recent real world movements i love this post a lot
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Oct 29, 2019 19:20
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I am pretty confident Topher was playing with a magnetic toy, couldn't you hear the pieces snap together?
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Oct 29, 2019 19:22
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Arist posted:I am pretty confident Topher was playing with a magnetic toy, couldn't you hear the pieces snap together? Not only that, as soon as he shoves it and it’s no longer above the pad it falls apart while it falls to the floor. It seems like the pad projects some sort of magnetic field.
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Oct 29, 2019 19:32
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Why the gently caress would I care about the difference between a communist and a nazi, both dead ideologies when capitalism was doing so well for me ?
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Oct 29, 2019 19:33
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KoRMaK posted:Why the gently caress would I care about the difference between a communist and a nazi, both dead ideologies when capitalism was doing so well for me ? w...wow 
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Oct 29, 2019 19:34
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Nail Rat posted:I really wish it was bingeable. Wait 2 months.
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Oct 29, 2019 19:52
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I need a bigger font than this forum provides to type a yikes big enough for that post
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Oct 29, 2019 20:00
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KoRMaK posted:Why the gently caress would I care about the difference between a communist and a nazi, both dead ideologies when capitalism was doing so well for me ? I mean have you never even heard of World War 2?
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Oct 29, 2019 20:02
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KoRMaK posted:Why the gently caress would I care about the difference between a communist and a nazi, both dead ideologies when capitalism was doing so well for me ? This is confirming my suspicions that the people who like this show are utterly baby-brained.
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Oct 29, 2019 20:02
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I'm not sure what the point was of this episode's title. I mean, yes, they show the eponymous painting, and the Comanches were famously amazing battle riders. But the significance of the title in regards of the episode ... I don't get it. Fake edit: Here's what the artist George Catlin has to say about the painting: “Amongst their feats of riding, there is one that has astonished me more than anything of the kind I have ever seen, or expect to see, in my life:---a stratagem of war, learned and practiced by every young man in the tribe; by which he is able to drop his body upon the side of his horse at the instant he is passing, effectually screened from his enemies’ weapons as he lays in a horizontal position behind the body of his horse, with his heel hanging over the horses' back; by which he has the power of throwing himself up again, and changing to the other side of the horse if necessary. In this wonderful condition, he will hang whilst his horse is at fullest speed, carrying with him his bow and his shield, and also his long lance of fourteen feet in length, all or either of which he will wield upon his enemy as he passes; rising and throwing his arrows over the horse's back, or with equal ease and equal success under the horse's neck.” Um... neat?
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Oct 29, 2019 20:04
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Zoracle Zed posted:This is confirming my suspicions that the people who like this show are utterly baby-brained. Thanks for lumping us all in with one really dumb guy.
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Oct 29, 2019 20:04
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KoRMaK posted:Why the gently caress would I care about the difference between a communist and a nazi, both dead ideologies when capitalism was doing so well for me ? Lmao holy loving poo poo, this post is a masterpiece
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Oct 29, 2019 20:06
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Mirage posted:I'm not sure what the point was of this episode's title. I mean, yes, they show the eponymous painting, and the Comanches were famously amazing battle riders. But the significance of the title in regards of the episode ... I don't get it. The name of the episode is "Martial Feats of Comanche Horsemanship", but the painting is called "Comanche Feats of Martial Horsemanship". Here are some lines I found in the Wikipedia article for The Battle of the Little Bighorn "The only documented and verified survivor of Custer's command (having been actually involved in Custer's part of the battle) was Captain Keogh's horse, Comanche." "Comanche was reputed to be the only survivor of the Little Bighorn, but quite a few Seventh Cavalry mounts survived." Little Bighorn seems to be the code word for crimes attributed to the Seventh Kavalry. Comanche the horse was supposedly the only survivor of an attack perpetrated by the Custer's Seventh Cavalry at Little Bighorn. Judd survived the White Night, almost all others did not. The Seventh Kavalry was supposed to be wiped out, but some indeed survived. Judd was also probably Seventh Kavalry himself. The painting/title is important because Judd is Comanche, the one who survived but also perpetrated the atrocity and thinks himself hot poo poo for his martial feats. And now Pore Jud is Daid,
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Oct 29, 2019 20:25
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Mirage posted:I'm not sure what the point was of this episode's title. I mean, yes, they show the eponymous painting, and the Comanches were famously amazing battle riders. But the significance of the title in regards of the episode ... I don't get it. Considering that painting was hanging in Judd's (The Chief) house and they zoomed in on it, and it feels like his death is incredibly suspicious I'd assume it has some sort of reference to the attacks on Nixonville. Essentially, the death of Judd being used as a shield from suspicion like the horses in the painting, while getting in an attack at length on their enemies by proxy of the cops. Or it's all red-herring bullshit, who knows?
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Oct 29, 2019 20:26
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Wasn’t the toy called Manhattan blocks? I assumed they were floating on their own.
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Oct 29, 2019 21:04
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HexiDave posted:Considering that painting was hanging in Judd's (The Chief) house and they zoomed in on it, and it feels like his death is incredibly suspicious I'd assume it has some sort of reference to the attacks on Nixonville. Essentially, the death of Judd being used as a shield from suspicion like the horses in the painting, while getting in an attack at length on their enemies by proxy of the cops. Id imagine multiple meanings can be derived from the focus on the painting. Art is neat
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Oct 29, 2019 21:29
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AccountSupervisor posted:Id imagine multiple meanings can be derived from the focus on the painting. Oh sure, I was just pointing out that it's likely that the painting and the episode title were relevant to the story directly, rather than something vague. That was the most direct connection I could make without really digging into the show, but I'm sure it'll make even more sense after the season connects all the dots.
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Oct 29, 2019 22:03
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KoRMaK posted:Why the gently caress would I care about the difference between a communist and a nazi, both dead ideologies when capitalism was doing so well for me ? 
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Oct 29, 2019 22:07
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Klungar posted:The name of the episode is "Martial Feats of Comanche Horsemanship", but the painting is called "Comanche Feats of Martial Horsemanship". That’s weird. I hope they didn’t make that change to spell something out with the first letter of each episode title. Edit: Ran the first letters of each episode it through an anagram site. Best option is ‘its salami’. If there was an additional episode starting with an ‘i’ it could be ‘rear end militia’, which I think is very important to note.
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Oct 29, 2019 22:17
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HexiDave posted:Considering that painting was hanging in Judd's (The Chief) house and they zoomed in on it, and it feels like his death is incredibly suspicious I'd assume it has some sort of reference to the attacks on Nixonville. Essentially, the death of Judd being used as a shield from suspicion like the horses in the painting, while getting in an attack at length on their enemies by proxy of the cops. Could it also suggest Judd feigning his own assassination attempt during the white night to throw off suspicion? Kinda like what Ozy does in the graphic novel. Also I hope we find out what happened to the second shooter in Angela's house. Clearly he didn't pull the trigger; was he told not to finish her off? Her boyfriend/partner seems to vanish from the scene during that initial moment of panic too so maybe he came back with a gun or something. w0o0o0o fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Oct 29, 2019 22:22
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w0o0o0o posted:Could it also suggest Judd feigning his own assassination attempt during the white night to throw off suspicion? Kinda like what Ozy does in the graphic novel. Oh gently caress, I dunno why it just hit me, but cloning is a thing in this universe huh?
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Oct 29, 2019 22:34
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I went into the first episode completely blind and without having read anything but was very impressed. The premise of the show is really loving me in the brain and I feel like I need to get reaquainted with the novels. Before I go onto the 2nd episode, I was going to reread the original Moore novel again (haven't read it in over a decade). Should I read anything else? I've heard the prequel stuff was quite bad.
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Oct 29, 2019 22:47
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Bedshaped posted:I went into the first episode completely blind and without having read anything but was very impressed. The premise of the show is really loving me in the brain and I feel like I need to get reaquainted with the novels. The consensus seems to be all the prequel and sequel stuff is bad.
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Oct 29, 2019 22:51
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Nail Rat posted:The consensus seems to be all the prequel and sequel stuff is bad. It's real bad - and kind of made worse in retrospect by this show proving (so far) that you can do a decent Watchmen story without Alan Moore's involvement.
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Oct 29, 2019 23:01
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The Dave posted:Wasn’t the toy called Manhattan blocks? I assumed they were floating on their own. They’re clearly labeled Manhattan blocks. Much cooler Kinect kit meets those magnetic free form toys
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