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Eej posted:Oko deserves a ban and so does Goose tbh. Nissa can stay cause I don't want to break the heart of elf girl. Nissa is Elf Hitler who let out the Eldrazi against all advice because she figured they'd go gently caress up lesser, non-elf people and why should she care about them?
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Look I'm all for banning oko but like, I think trying to ban goose is a little reactionary
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Oct 29, 2019 20:13
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Motherfuckers ain't gonna take my goose. Honk honk.
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Oct 29, 2019 20:14
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Goose is a very good mana accelerant/fixer with downside. It's fine.
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Oct 29, 2019 20:15
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Goose is a very good mana accelerant/fixer with downside*. It's fine. *unless you care about food or the life gain that food represents
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Oct 29, 2019 20:22
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CitizenKeen posted:I find it fascinating that the recent nerd spaces opening in my city aren't planning on being retail joints because those are the worst business ventures. They're event spaces. This is cool but is also expressly forbidden by the WPN rules. In order to host prereleases and fnms and get the promos and all that you need retail space specifically devoted to magic.
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TheKingofSprings posted:It’s a Bird of Paradise, yes! This is a silly question! It's only a birds of paradise once unless you have another food source or spend more mana then you're getting out of it, which all seems fine?
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:It's only a birds of paradise once unless you have another food source or spend more mana then you're getting out of it, which all seems fine? A one shot Paradise is a really good card and late-game Goose has a ton of utility to top it off in ways Bird doesn't, it is a very good card and as good as BoP in eternal formats right now
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TheKingofSprings posted:A one shot Paradise is a really good card and late-game Goose has a ton of utility to top it off in ways Bird doesn't, it is a very good card and as good as BoP in eternal formats right now Sure, but "very good" doesn't mean "bannable"
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TheKingofSprings posted:A one shot Paradise is a really good card and late-game Goose has a ton of utility to top it off in ways Bird doesn't, it is a very good card and as good as BoP in eternal formats right now Lmao what the gently caress is this take
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Skyl3lazer posted:Lmao what the gently caress is this take A take that is acutely, painfully aware that "Wrenn and Six" exists
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TheKingofSprings posted:A one shot Paradise is a really good card and late-game Goose has a ton of utility to top it off in ways Bird doesn't, it is a very good card and as good as BoP in eternal formats right now Uh I was told BoP is better in every format both were available in. Emphatically. I think by Sickening?
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You don't have to ban honk but there's not much else you can do when Green has so much good poo poo going for it right now. None of it is individually broken but as a whole it's insane compared to the other colours.Toshimo posted:Nissa is Elf Hitler who let out the Eldrazi against all advice because she figured they'd go gently caress up lesser, non-elf people and why should she care about them? Elf girl is Dana Fischer fwiw
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TheKingofSprings posted:A take that is acutely, painfully aware that "Wrenn and Six" exists No. Company decks or whatever still play BoP and Heirarch. Goose is being played over BoP in some decks in eternal formats only because of artifact synergy stuff that doesn't and probably will not exist in standard. Otherwise BoP is still better. Goose probably sees some play in Standard without Oko, but it's far from a sure thing and wouldn't be ubiquitous the way it is now. Tom Clancy is Dead fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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goose is only better in eternals when the difference between 1 and 2 toughness is relevant, and how often is-- *laughs wrenn and sixishly*
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Sure, but "very good" doesn't mean "bannable" In a vacuum it's not bannable but if you want Standard to not just be UGx value piles for the next two years and you don't want to ban any marquee cards then it's the best target. Banning anything else (Nissa, Krasis, etc) won't do as much to neuter those decks. In eternal formats IDK, I think you just have to ban Oko and call it a day.
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Does goose see play right now in any non-standard deck without oko?
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TheKingofSprings posted:If people in this thread are wondering why being an LGS owner could possibly be precarious, think about your own opinion on Wizards and how they’ve handled Magic in the last few years. Now that I'm not at the shop anymore, technically, hoo boy there have been some "do we cut the rope and hope for the best or do we try to ride it out" discussions in the last two years
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Sickening posted:Does goose see play right now in any non-standard deck without oko? One single 5-0 list of Abzan Stoneblade. It is not played in the other Abzan Stoneblade lists. It is not stock in any eternal list besides Modern's Simic Whirza and Simic PO.
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Sickening posted:Does goose see play right now in any non-standard deck without oko? Nm you said non standard
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Thank god that charity got The Professor to shave his head.
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whydirt posted:Thank god that charity got The Professor to shave his head. You made me look it up and  As someone who underwent a similar hair transition (not all the way to a shaved head, though) I find the Professor's feelings about it extremely relatable
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Non-Oko green decks do not play goose, it is a strong one drop but it is absolutely not on the level of BoP and I doubt it’ll see play outside of a few fringe modern/pioneer food decks
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Bust Rodd posted:Non-Oko green decks do not play goose, it is a strong one drop but it is absolutely not on the level of BoP and I doubt it’ll see play outside of a few fringe modern/pioneer food decks
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Tubgoat posted:Honestly, it seems like it could be good sideboard vs. burn et al. It has some incidental value if its in the maindeck but there are more effective sideboard cards against burn in modern/pioneer.
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Bunch of Theros leaks New mechanic is Escape which is exile 4 cards from the GY and cast ~ from the GY for its escape cost Sagas and Devotion are back https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GRrWFBDWy3Wf4YAt-ZdP1Io7XUGCwTNox6s5uZc4P1o/edit There is one more I heard of like a month ago that isn’t there which is 2U instant draw three discard 2 unless you discard an enchantment Tainen fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Oct 30, 2019 |
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It's taking forever to load, so here's the page of rares from it: Elspeth is 2WW 5 loyalty -1 - up to 2 creatures get +2/+2 (or 1) until end of turn -2 - Create 2 1/1 human soldiers -3 - gain 5 life Escape 4WW 
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Oct 30, 2019 05:59
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Sagas are an a+ great idea for the Grecian set.
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I really really hope they print some good Minotaurs. I’d love to have some good ones for my tribal deck. I also can’t wait to use my foil underworld dreams
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Holy poo poo those lands are loving amazing. edit: Underworld Dreams downshifted to uncommon is pretty cool. Banishing Light Reprint. GoutPatrol fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Oct 30, 2019 |
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Oct 30, 2019 06:06
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Gonna try and get foils of those basic lands
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Arivia posted:Sagas are an a+ great idea for the Grecian set. Yeah I was on the edge of making a bet on it when Starfield Mystic was revealed but none of my friends really wanted to bet against it, unsurprisingly. Escape as a "gently caress you guys only I'm getting out of hell" version of Embalm is very cool.
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ungulateman posted:Yeah I was on the edge of making a bet on it when Starfield Mystic was revealed but none of my friends really wanted to bet against it, unsurprisingly. if UG gets decimated by bans I'll be happy to play Bant or Selesnya Enchantress, which is what I tried to build as a pillow fort deck in high school
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I also quite like how they've brought back Heroic in a different way; Heroes produce a token to help them, and triggering Heroic consistently gives all your creatures +1/+0 as your Hero inspires their followers. At least, that's what all the R/W effects do that we've seen. And the white pump gives your Hero +2/+1 and everybody else +1/+1 so they end up being consistent! The Narcissus card is loving phenomenal, too. e: the 3 mana draw 3 enchantment with downside is sick as well, because if you try to give it to your opponent or bounce it, it dies, so you can cheat it but you can't cheat it that hard.  ee: recur it with brought back
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ungulateman posted:e: the 3 mana draw 3 enchantment with downside is sick as well, because if you try to give it to your opponent or bounce it, it dies, so you can cheat it but you can't cheat it that hard. Korvold and Doom Fortold love it though.
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Those full art basic lands make me think of Pokemon energy cards. This isn't a criticism, mind you. I'm ambivalent towards them overall; I think I'd rather my lands have art of, y'know, landscape features, but I can't deny that they're lovely designs.
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Krasis had better eat a ban before this set drops, otherwise lmaaaooooo that Hydra aura makes it even more busted
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The land aura is bonkers
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JerryLee posted:Those full art basic lands make me think of Pokemon energy cards. I thought the same thing. I'm surprised it took them this long, but constellations make sense for Theros.
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