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TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Phlag posted:

Alex Thomas is talking a pretty big game in his twitter feed. Let's hope he lives up to it.
https://twitter.com/AlexThomasDC/status/1189363983784042496?s=20
https://twitter.com/AlexThomasDC/status/1189366685242970115?s=20
edit: kinda regret even posting this though, because reporter hype like this is obnoxious. either hurry up and publish or keep quiet

How big is it if the NRCC willingly helped publish revenge porn on a House Rep, and Georgie knew all about it?

Would that be a huge scandal? Because I feel like the NRCC has done far worse poo poo

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Pigbuster posted:

A couple of his cases were reopened.

specifically he alleged 30+ defamation... allegations... and a judge just said that 3 of them aren't quite laughably nonsensical enough to be dismissed without discovery

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

TulliusCicero posted:

"You wouldn't know anything about that, would you coffee boy?"

I almost feel Hill shouldn't have resigned. This was a hatchet job from beginning to end. Hope a lot of people go to jail.

Hill made the right ethical call resigning, but I do honestly feel horrible for her because her relationship seemed completely consensual

Almost think again. From what we know, she had a relationship with a staffer under her control. No Boss/Underling relationship is ever "completely consensual".

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
Literally gently caress off with defending the covington kid, like oh wow he didn't spit in the elder's eye and steal his instruments, gtfo with that bullshit

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Herstory Begins Now posted:

Literally gently caress off with defending the covington kid, like oh wow he didn't spit in the elder's eye and steal his instruments, gtfo with that bullshit

loving this

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Otteration posted:

Almost think again. From what we know, she had a relationship with a staffer under her control. No Boss/Underling relationship is ever "completely consensual".

I'm saying I get that. But no one besides the ex husband seems to be doing any of this. And I know it's a dumb argument, but Republican men would never resign over this poo poo, especially not now

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

TulliusCicero posted:

How big is it if the NRCC willingly helped publish revenge porn on a House Rep, and Georgie knew all about it?

Would that be a huge scandal? Because I feel like the NRCC has done far worse poo poo

It would be a major scandal, especially since posting/distributing revenge porn is a crime in CA. It would likely get buried under the torrent of Trump scandals, but it could easily result in people going to jail

Amazing Zimmo
Jan 27, 2006

That's quite a load you got in them diapers
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1189351304671453187

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1189376448714498049

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

nine-gear crow posted:

The judge who formerly dismissed his $200m lawsuit against the Washington Post has reopened it so he's getting another crack at forcibly grifting his way to a giant payoff for being a smug little racist shithead.

Everyone is badposting about it because this is D&D, what were you expecting?

Ok so I looked at the case and I'm not a lawyer but it appears that the kid's legal team was allowed to rewrite the complaint, which isn't unusual, and in the process they cut almost all the actual accusations out of it. So now they get to try to prove malice which is usually pretty lol good luck. I'm not sure why people are upset about this, other than that some rich kid with lovely parents is riding the culture war to an inevitable right wing media job.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

The Covington kids deserves a horrendous existence.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

TulliusCicero posted:

I'm saying I get that. But no one besides the ex husband seems to be doing any of this. And I know it's a dumb argument, but Republican men would never resign over this poo poo, especially not now

Yep. The ex husband is poo poo. And so is she, as a boss who encourages her employees to pursue a "relationship" with her. Both things can be true at the same time.

Edit: And we can criticize and prosecute both stupid Republicans and Democrats at the same time. We are that capable.

Otteration fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Oct 30, 2019

Kale
May 14, 2010


My family that watches this show were commenting on this over dinner during a visit tonight and their sheer disgust and I'm sitting there kind of wondering what anybody expected really with what was always a terrible loving idea from literally any perspective. Producer, contestant, judge or fan, nobody wins in yet another weird self-own of big media culture. Of course having a Trumper Republican on a network prime time TV show is going to get him chuds voting in blocs and keeping him on the show to "Own the Libs". I mean Christ I think I remember hearing Sarah Palin's daughter even made it to the finals of one season despite being a really mediocre dancer on the basis of Republicans voting for her alone and polarization wasn't even as bad then as it is now.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

fool_of_sound posted:

Ok so I looked at the case and I'm not a lawyer but it appears that the kid's legal team was allowed to rewrite the complaint, which isn't unusual, and in the process they cut almost all the actual accusations out of it. So now they get to try to prove malice which is usually pretty lol good luck. I'm not sure why people are upset about this, other than that some rich kid with lovely parents is riding the culture war to an inevitable right wing media job.

I dunno man why do we talk about most of these loving subhumans? I had to see this smug little prick's grinning face again because 'rich white boy gets yet another break' is national news.

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/AlexThomasDC/status/1189381645671063558

https://twitter.com/AlexThomasDC/status/1189383076712980480

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
Ima give a bit of guidance to anyone struggling with the covington situation: respect native elders period full stop. There's zero ambiguity about it. If you ever find yourself body blocking one with a smug loving grin on your face, go crawl into a hole in shame, apologize to your friends and family for being a disappointment and apologize publicly at some point later if they'll accept it.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Otteration posted:

Yep. The ex husband is poo poo. And so is she, as a boss who encourages her employees to pursue a "relationship" with her. Both things can be true at the same time.

Edit: And we can criticize and prosecute both stupid Republicans and Democrats at the same time. We are that capable.

Again, I do agree with you man. She hosed up by having a relationship with a staffer, who probably felt pressured to do so.

I guess I would feel better if the lovely ex-husband and the Republicans weren't crowing about it, and it had just come out on it's own, she was investigated, and then she resigned. This hatchet job is leaving a horrible taste in my mouth and making me a lot less objective about this

I actually appreciate you staying the course and correcting me on this one :)

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Oct 30, 2019

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Nonsense posted:

The Covington kids deserves a horrendous existence.

Or maybe he just needs to learn some normal society poo poo and get poo poo on a bit for doing stupid stuff like the rest of us already have. (And also get his likely-parent-driven-lawsuit shut down soon for the same reason, which it probably will, again.)

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Otteration posted:

Or maybe he just needs to learn some normal society poo poo and get poo poo on a bit for doing stupid stuff like the rest of us already have. (And also get his likely-parent-driven-lawsuit shut down soon for the same reason, which it probably will, again.)

He has a chance for redemption, but so far he has done literally nothing to even take one hint of a step towards it so until that day there's zero reason to give him any benefit of the doubt.

Amazing Zimmo
Jan 27, 2006

That's quite a load you got in them diapers
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1188882388882984960

litany of gulps
Jun 11, 2001

Fun Shoe

Otteration posted:

Or maybe he just needs to learn some normal society poo poo and get poo poo on a bit for doing stupid stuff like the rest of us already have. (And also get his likely-parent-driven-lawsuit shut down soon for the same reason, which it probably will, again.)

You know, I was a dipshit as a teenager, but I don't recall ever going to political rallies for reprehensible poo poo, going viral for being a complete jackass, and having my wealthy parents repeatedly make national news for lawsuits about the previously mentioned things because NONE OF THAT IS NORMAL STUPID STUFF.

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





bird cooch posted:

Nothing kneejerk here. I like Omar in a lot of ways, and I'm upset about this vote cause it's poo poo. I'm not gonna toss her under the bus, but I'm not going to talk myself into thinking it smells like roses either.
Yeah that's most of the thread, dumbass.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

Hoo boy.

So we get to find out how they went from NRCC to coffee boy to redstate.

All could be on the hook for revenge porn distribution.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

This paired with the 27% of Rs would vote for Tulsis makes me legit wonder what will be true in another year or two

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Hoo boy.

So we get to find out how they went from NRCC to coffee boy to redstate.

All could be on the hook for revenge porn distribution.

Watch Rudy somehow turn up in all of this, too

Amazing Zimmo
Jan 27, 2006

That's quite a load you got in them diapers
https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1189321066772082688

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

TulliusCicero posted:

Again, I do agree with you man. She hosed up by having a relationship with a staffer, who probably felt pressured to do so.

I guess I would feel better if the lovely ex-husband and the Republicans weren't crowing about it, and it had just come out on it's own, she was investigated, and then she resigned. This hatchet job is leaving a horrible taste in my mouth and making me a lot let less objective about this

I actually appreciate you staying the course and correcting me on this one :)

NP :) , guess maybe we shouldn't care too much about what the Republicans crow about these days.

And at the same time she hosed up (not a hatchet job, she hosed up).

Uglycat
Dec 4, 2000
MORE INDISPUTABLE PROOF I AM BAD AT POSTING
---------------->
So the GOP strategy was to call the whole investigation a 'witchhunt', and DEMAND a 'fair trial.'

DNC sees the weakness in the GOP strategy: a fair trial does not work to Trump's advantage, and write a resolution that turns the impeachment inquiry into a fair trial.

That's pretty sweet.

And now we're learning that the not-a-transcript was redacted to strategically exclude Trump actually asking about investigating Biden in exchange for the funds.

The inquiry will likely explore two possibilities: first, that Trump knew the Biden stuff was misinformation, a conspiracy theory, an outright lie - and was trying to use taxpayer funds allocated by congress to coerce Ukraine into complicit collusion to help him win the 2020 election; or
that Trump /believed/ the Biden stuff, revealing himself to have fallen for weaponized disinformation campaigns that compromise his decision-making ability w/r/t serving the interests of his electorate.

If he defends himself (not that he'll be taking the stand or anything) by insisting that he genuinely believes that Ukraine had /real/ evidence of /real/ wrongdoing by Biden, he argues in favor of the interpretation that he's compromised, an asset of whichever foreign intelligence agency or domestic fascist cult invented that narrative. Mind you, he was asked outright 'have you ever asked for investigation into corruption that /wasn't/ targeted at a political rival', his response made it pretty clear he has not. This is damning in the other direction.

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





Bucky Fullminster posted:

Ok, so at what point do kids get a pass for inheriting the beliefs of their parents and the culture they live in? 5? 6? 10? 12? 15? 18? College? The only thing this kid seems to have done is 'been enrolled at a school for fuckwits'... Is that really his fault?
No, but he's still a CHUD.

They get a pass until they reach the age where black kids are tried as adults. So like 12.

Bucky Fullminster posted:

I mean, if they're being unfairly attacked, there kind of is? That's the whole basis for any fair and honest system.

But to be honest, it’s not really the kids I’m worried about, it’s the progressive movement's integrity and credibility.
Wow thank you for your concern.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Dapper_Swindler posted:

like i can sympathize and to an extent empathize with being mad tthat american and most other countries love to over look horrible poo poo that they themselves have done or others have done until its convenient and that is bullshit and we should actually do more about it. but this kinda feels like bit of a galaxy brainish. idk.

It’s obviously not the real reason for the vote. Voting no or present on this stuff (or an administration vetoing) historically is as simple as not wanting to upset Turkey. So it’s misdirection to say the resolution itself is playing at geopolitics.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

'Unable to move his limbs, he asked a soldier to lift his hands before his face and whispered his last words as he gazed at them: "Useless ... useless."'

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





TheDisreputableDog posted:

Yeah, it's disturbing how people here can't point to any specific behavior, but hand-wave their way to making a child into a symbol of everything they hate about the other side, a stand in for rich people, etc.

It was wrong when people on the right tried to demonize Greta that way, and it's wrong here, as well.
https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312

Timeless as always.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Herstory Begins Now posted:

Ima give a bit of guidance to anyone struggling with the covington situation: respect native elders period full stop. There's zero ambiguity about it. If you ever find yourself body blocking one with a smug loving grin on your face, go crawl into a hole in shame, apologize to your friends and family for being a disappointment and apologize publicly at some point later if they'll accept it.

Can't wait for MAGA hats to be added to lists of hate symbols, that's what they are.

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

TulliusCicero posted:

Hill made the right ethical call resigning, but I do honestly feel horrible for her because her relationship seemed completely consensual

Look, either having consensual sex with your subordinates is okay or it’s not. In the past few years, we seem to have decided not. That’s fine, but we should try to be consistent about it.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Herstory Begins Now posted:

He has a chance for redemption, but so far he has done literally nothing to even take one hint of a step towards it so until that day there's zero reason to give him any benefit of the doubt.

How old is he again? Who is in charge? I'm not gonna defend his actions, but:

Nonsense posted:

The Covington kids deserves a horrendous existence.

Was the bit that made me wonder.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

TheDisreputableDog posted:

Yeah, it's disturbing how people here can't point to any specific behavior, but hand-wave their way to making a child into a symbol of everything they hate about the other side, a stand in for rich people, etc.

It was wrong when people on the right tried to demonize Greta that way, and it's wrong here, as well.

protesting for action on climate change is exactly the same as wearing a modern white hood, yes

Eschenique
Jul 19, 2019

Did Ilhan Omar just refuse to vote in favor of recognizing the Amernian genocide?

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014



I will be voting for people Rand hates long after he is in a home.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Eschenique posted:

Did Ilhan Omar just refuse to vote in favor of recognizing the Amernian genocide?

Read back a few pages. Her vote (present) and her reasoning for it are covered in detail. Seems like most people here don't agree with it.

Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

Eschenique posted:

Did Ilhan Omar just refuse to vote in favor of recognizing the Amernian genocide?

It can be framed as a principled stand against cynical opportunism. It can be framed as a rookie mistake. It can also be framed as being in favor of genocide. Choose your own adventure.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Bottom Liner posted:

protesting for action on climate change is exactly the same as wearing a modern white hood, yes

Difficult question to ask, given kids.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1188812265522380801/hkQ25VjC?format=jpg&name=600x314

From couple of posts above.

(To be fair, I extremely think Greta is acting on her own.)

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MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





Elviscat posted:

If he's in some sort of hell-dimension school that is travelling to DC to protest abortion, I doubt he's really been given a chance to form any of his own opinions, or allowed to even interact with the bogeyman from the right, basically raised in a cult-like setting worshipping the right and denigrating minorities. Yet when confronted with a clearly mentally ill minority, he managed to at least choose a decent path, when he had many hateful options available to him, which isn't at all worthy of praise, but it's at least not worthy of the vilification he's recieving here, with comments like "send him to the Gulag" which is gross. There are literally millions of Chuds who are full-blown adults, with plenty of time in their lives to be responsible for their own unconscionable opinions to go after in this country.
Okay so first of all Nathan Philips is not mentally ill, or at least not mentally ill in any way that matters here, so gently caress off.

Also who cares if this Nazi piece of poo poo decided not to get ultraviolent just then because he was on camera or whatever. He's still a piece of poo poo sporting a hate symbol on top of his smooth reactionary brain. He does get the gulag on that basis.

Elviscat posted:

What's really, really gross though is "gently caress him, he's our enemy, so who cares if the press made poo poo up about him, he's poo poo anyways." because thats the logic that gets used to defend loving Breitbart, and I don't want a loving Left-wing Breitbart, because if all the news outlets reported 100% the facts, as close as reasonably possible, they'd be on our side 99% of the time, we don't NEED lovely propaganda tags to prop up humanist and socialist values.
Okay well get back to us when the news starts reporting 100% facts because in the meantime I'm more interested in actually winning victories for the left because that's what has a chance in hell of taking action on climate change and putting the fascist genie back in the fascist bottle, not coddling hate group initiates like Fuckhead McSmirkyface over here.

If he comes around and realizes the error of his ways and takes action to atone, I'll be there with open arms. Until then he can eat poo poo.

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