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ummel posted:Is this a logarithmic scale? Because Cosby was an absolute serial monster. it's linear, though measures beyond the cosby are largely contextual and academic. this is the weinstein space there is more granularity at the lower end of the scale. hitting on a baristia as they hand you a drink is measured as a centicosby, also known as a Gamer
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ummel posted:Is this a logarithmic scale? Because Cosby was an absolute serial monster. It's a reverse calorie situation. We're pretty much always dealing in millicosbies, but it's just easier in common parlance to drop the milli-
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Lightning Knight posted:This is very tedious. He's always ready to chime in and defend the worst things, it's no surprise he's backing the burgeoning Trumpler Youth. Frankly it's surprising you give him the time of day with how reliably baited his posts are.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:That kid was being a smug piece of poo poo flaunting what he felt was his open white supremacy Everyone has a point in their lives when they learn that (fair or not) you get judged and assumptions get made about you based on the company you keep. This kid just got it on the largest scale possible. Wear a MAGA hat, everyone will assume you are a racist. Attend a march held by horrible people, everyone will assume you are a horrible person.
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Captain Invictus posted:So, a bad faith The Disreputable Dog post, you mean? I have a few different thought processes. For starters, he's nominally better than before, which is saddening as to the state of conservative posters on the forums. Secondly, there are so few conservative posters that we rarely actually get a chance to engage with their arguments first hand, as opposed to quoting a Daily Caller tweet and saying gently caress you repeatedly. He's also not as maddening as say, Dead Reckoning, although that is of course subjective. Ignoring the metatextual stuff, I find that it is more interesting to post a rebuttal to something like that not because I believe TDD will ever change his mind because of anything I post, but because there are many, many lurkers in this thread who may, say, have sympathy for the poor put upon white boy who got yelled at, and seeing an explanation for why they shouldn't may change their mind!
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StrangersInTheNight posted:That kid was being a smug piece of poo poo flaunting what he felt was his open white supremacy TDD is a self-identified republican so don't think he's going 'both sides' with this EDIT - this has already been addressed, apologies
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This sounds like the fanfiction people write about Putin or Xi too lol. This is such an easy layup, how do you gently caress this up lol Tulsi you goddamned idiot.
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Man its just so wonderful that folks like TDD are willing to step up and defend the poor downtrodden Rich White Teenagers Being Flagrantly Racist On National News. Truly the most oppressed of classes, they deserve multiple chances to Lightning Knight posted:I have a few different thought processes. For starters, he's nominally better than before, which is saddening as to the state of conservative posters on the forums. Secondly, there are so few conservative posters that we rarely actually get a chance to engage with their arguments first hand, as opposed to quoting a Daily Caller tweet and saying gently caress you repeatedly. But yeah, breaking down why the little poo poo is so unsympathetic is useful too. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Oct 30, 2019 |
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Lightning Knight posted:I have a few different thought processes. For starters, he's nominally better than before, which is saddening as to the state of conservative posters on the forums. Secondly, there are so few conservative posters that we rarely actually get a chance to engage with their arguments first hand, as opposed to quoting a Daily Caller tweet and saying gently caress you repeatedly. No they won't.
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Captain Invictus posted:So, a bad faith The Disreputable Dog post, you mean? Still blows me away that people even respond to him.
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Captain Invictus posted:Man its just so wonderful that folks like TDD are willing to step up and defend the poor downtrodden Rich White Teenagers Being Flagrantly Racist On National News. Truly the most oppressed of classes, they deserve multiple chances to This is another thing to stress: the only reason the Covington kids became national news for days was because their parents are rich and own major stakes in the media companies. That poo poo was at most a curiosity for the regional news networks lol. Conversely, an entire class of high school white boys in Wisconsin threw up Nazi salutes in a class photo and it was news for like a day at most.
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Lightning Knight posted:This sounds like the fanfiction people write about Putin or Xi too lol. it owns that her take is like "Erdogan is literally the leader of ISIS"
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CascadeBeta posted:No they won't. I like to dream. eke out posted:it owns that her take is like "Erdogan is literally the leader of ISIS" Tulsi Gabbard would be a really good anime villain.
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CascadeBeta posted:No they won't.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:If you wear a MAGA hat you deserve whatever’s coming to you. I own three red hats and now my wife won't let me wear them anymore. Make red hats great again!
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theflyingorc posted:Posts like that are exactly what made me stop being a Republican. Stop your war on other people trying to make bad people better. Congrats on being the exception, not the rule.
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CascadeBeta posted:Congrats on being the exception, not the rule. That doesn't loving matter, there are plenty of exceptions out there, and your posting about this is insanely lovely.
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theflyingorc posted:That doesn't loving matter, there are plenty of exceptions out there, and your posting about this is insanely lovely. Posters like TDD are white noise at best, for every one potential good "rebuttal", there's like 4 or 5 posts who don't know not to respond to the guy, then a bunch of people asking why people are responding to him/not ignoring him. It's real tiresome, and there's no theoretical, invisible right wing lurker who could be persuaded by owning TDD with facts and logic. It's pure fantasy, and even LK admits it.
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CascadeBeta posted:Posters like TDD are white noise at best, for every one potential good "rebuttal", there's like 4 or 5 posts who don't know not to respond to the guy, then a bunch of people asking why people are responding to him/not ignoring him. It's real tiresome, and there's no theoretical, invisible right wing lurker who could be persuaded by owning TDD with facts and logic. It's pure fantasy, and even LK admits it. There are absolutely a ton of centrist lurkers who can drift his way by allowing his rhetoric to stand as "reasonable". It's not reasonable, and counteracting it is good.
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TDD is allowed to post lovely opinions in this thread so long as they obey the rules. Take it as an opportunity to try out your debate and discussion skills or at least learning to ignore people who aren’t interested in talking with.
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CascadeBeta posted:Congrats on being the exception, not the rule. Yea you can gently caress right off with this. I would garner a great deal of people have been convinced or fed arguments that could convince others in other head spaces. The void yells back sometimes. Shove your vast sweeping generalizations about humanity being terrible up your rear end.
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Some of what Gabbard is saying is correct. There were a lot of reports of Turkey-backed radical militias executing Kurdish civilians or kidnapping them during the invasion of Northern Syria
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theflyingorc posted:There are absolutely a ton of centrist lurkers who can drift his way by allowing his rhetoric to stand as "reasonable". It's not reasonable, and counteracting it is good. If ignoring TDD means his rhetoric is viewed as "reasonable" to the nonexistent centrist lurkers then he probably just shouldn't be posting, because it contributes less than nothing.
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CascadeBeta posted:Congrats on being the exception, not the rule. I used to be a lovely R too and changed over time I suspect that it’s far more common than people think.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Some of what Gabbard is saying is correct. There were a lot of reports of Turkey-backed radical militias executing Kurdish civilians or kidnapping them during the invasion of Northern Syria The problem with her statement is two-fold. First, it's insane clash of civilization drivel that frames the issue as though Erdogan is a James Bond villain driven to rule the world or whatever and not just a petty tyrant with material motivations and goals and a willingness to brutalize others to achieve those goals. Secondly, Tulsi Gabbard doesn't actually give a poo poo about Kurds or Syrians or anyone out there really, it's just grandstanding, and if she was in a position of power - as opposed to a pathetic third rate congressperson who is washing out this term - she'd be droning the poo poo out of them as we speak the same as Obama and Trump did. Tulsi Gabbard is a liar, but she lies in new and interesting ways than the others which makes her appealing. I look forward to her inevitable Fox News show in a few years.
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ryde posted:I used to be a lovely R too and changed over time I suspect that it’s far more common than people think. Weird.
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eke out posted:it's cool how the 'russiagate skeptics' spent months telling us that support for aid to Ukraine was proof that Trump couldn't possibly be in Putin's pocket, and now we come to learn that at basically every point where they possibly could they undermined and delayed that support the best they could get away with It's cool how Trump is in Putin's pocket, yet the Democrats keep voting to give him more money for the military (which Putin will control) and expanding his domestic surveillance powers (which Putin will control). I guess the Democrats are all working for Putin too.
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ryde posted:I used to be a lovely R too and changed over time I suspect that it’s far more common than people think. It's just easier for a lot of people to assume it's not only not worth the effort, but impossible to do. It's even easier to fall down that hole when there are plenty of examples of much more worthwhile causes to contribute to out there. When you have enough difficult poo poo going on in your life, I can understand how it might be tempting to make huge sweeping generalizations like that.
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VitalSigns posted:It's cool how Trump is in Putin's pocket, yet the Democrats keep voting to give him more money for the military (which Putin will control) and expanding his domestic surveillance powers (which Putin will control). We all are comrade.
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Lightning Knight posted:This is very tedious. The kid and his friends were actively participating in a political act, wearing political clothing and attending a political rally. Sorry in advance for the "tedium" of making a post on the forum you're in charge of! What you said is certainly correct, but your focus on this kid, as opposed to the adults who do the same, the adults who organized it, the structures that encourage it, is 100% because of the picture and all the assumptions people made when they first saw it. quote:Their politics are based around the idea that people like the Native man have no place in America, for a variety of reasons that I shouldn't have to explain to you and should be common knowledge - if not about Republican right-wing reactionary ideology in general, than specifically about the particular animating paleoconservative nativist nationalism behind Trump. Thank you for this lesson - again I'll point out that the truly vile anti-Native stuff was said by the third party protesting there, which is completely discounted because the narrative of minority-on-minority racism and sexism doesn't lather up a really good head of steam like the idea of a rich white kid getting in a minority's face. Seriously, look up some of the stuff they said to the old guy and the woman he was with. quote:Now, in this particular case, it's not as extreme, but also the Native man did not, to my knowledge, physically hit or touch the kids. So what is the contention? "Oh no, the Native man was being mean to the poor innocent MAGA kids who are simply too young and naive to understand their own political iconography, despite being the children of wealthy elites brought up in an environment of power and privilege." If the kids are allowed to wear stupid racist bullshit clothing, then other people can walk up and tell them they're assholes. You're moving the goalposts again - I never said the kid shouldn't be approached and told he's an rear end in a top hat, I think he probably is an insufferable rear end in real life. Making this kid the poster child for the whole movement, wishfully hoping the child gets shipped to the gulags, weird daydreams about how it would feel to punch them is deplorable.
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There Bias Two posted:It's just easier for a lot of people to assume it's not only not worth the effort, but impossible to do. It's even easier to fall down that hole when there are plenty of examples of much more worthwhile causes to contribute to out there. When you have enough difficult poo poo going on in your life, I can understand how it might be tempting to make huge sweeping generalizations like that. It's important to stress that we shouldn't demand that people take the time to do this, or that they're a bad person for not doing so. For example, CascadeBeta, to my recollection, is LGBT. I don't really expect them to spend time trying to convince Republicans they deserve to exist as they see fit, nor do I begrudge them for refusing. But I think it's worth my time, situationally, and so I do so myself.
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ryde posted:I used to be a lovely R too and changed over time I suspect that it’s far more common than people think. Same, I feel like a lot of it had to do with getting out of my parent's house and into college where I started to realize things they drilled into my head throughout my childhood didn't exactly add up.
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There Bias Two posted:It's just easier for a lot of people to assume it's not only not worth the effort, but impossible to do. It's even easier to fall down that hole when there are plenty of examples of much more worthwhile causes to contribute to out there. When you have enough difficult poo poo going on in your life, I can understand how it might be tempting to make huge sweeping generalizations like that. It's perfectly fine to not want to personally wrestle with difficult people - especially if you're a member of a minority that has enough poo poo going on - and it isn't anyone's job or responsibility. But telling other people not to do it is ridiculous and the entire problem I have with CascadeBeta's posting on the topic.
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Can he really drive a Caterpillar? Very skeptical on that claim, beyond maybe driving it across a parking lot. I doubt he can operate it like a professional.
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