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Beachcomber posted:The movie Monster Squad, glorious as it is, has aged very badly in terms of the insults the children throw at each other. The Gate and Night of the Comet are also pretty good '80s PG-13 horror, that out of nowhere have lines that remind you that, oh, yeah, casual homophobia was big in the '80s. (My movie confession is that I haven't gotten around to watching The Monster Squad yet)
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catlord posted:The Gate and Night of the Comet are also pretty good '80s PG-13 horror, that out of nowhere have lines that remind you that, oh, yeah, casual homophobia was big in the '80s. Love both of those movies, although The Gate ended slightly differently than I remember as a child. Night of the Comet isn't exactly a zombie movie, but it reminded me that I was a huge fan of zombie movies before suddenly everyone was a fan of zombie media. I'm not sure if there's a correlation, but I still like the classics.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:
That's actually a myth, restaurants are not worse than any other small business https://www.forbes.com/sites/modeledbehavior/2017/01/29/no-most-restaurants-dont-fail-in-the-first-year/ Actually used a comprehensive sample, too, since the counted 98% of US Businesses from 1992 to 2011
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Tunicate posted:That's actually a myth, restaurants are not worse than any other small business That article posted:Restaurants with 20 or fewer employees fail more often than other service business, It's still a relevant nugget of information to give someone deciding to start their own small eatery where they'll be doing most of the work themselves.
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Jabor posted:It's still a relevant nugget of information to give someone deciding to start their own small eatery where they'll be doing most of the work themselves. So pretty much any starting restaurant, then.
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Oct 31, 2019 04:05
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Just open a successful restaurant that makes money instead of a lovely one that loses money. Problem solved
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So what you're saying is I need to start by opening a whole chain of magician themed restaurants rather than just the one to improve my chances of success?
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Call it "Slight of Ham" and you can't miss.
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Tunicate posted:That's actually a myth, restaurants are not worse than any other small business Nice find. Although I'll note that most small businesses of any kind fail. The figure I remember is 80% in the first 5 years, although google tells me that for the UK "20% of small businesses fail in their first year, 30% of small business fail in their second year, and 50% of small businesses fail after five years in business" and there are figures all around the place. Point being, I've known several people who have nursed a dream of opening a bar / bookshop / restaurant / skate store and I can't remember one working out. The people who opened an online / work from home business tended to do a lot better, but it's a lot less glamorous.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Call it "Slight of Ham" and you can't miss. Here I was racking my brain for an abracadabra pun. Close-up magic and pork. Winning combination.
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nonathlon posted:Nice find. Although I'll note that most small businesses of any kind fail. The figure I remember is 80% in the first 5 years, although google tells me that for the UK "20% of small businesses fail in their first year, 30% of small business fail in their second year, and 50% of small businesses fail after five years in business" and there are figures all around the place. People always go for the "sexy" small businesses which are in oversaturated markets. I wonder what the statistics are for people who did research, and actually came up with a business plan are. See: that Parks & Rec clip where Ben tells Tom about his extremely boring but guaranteed-to-be-successful dry cleanong detergent wholesaler and Tom skipping out for an upscale Italian bistro in a tiny working class rural Indiana town. Except Parks and Rec gave him the one inestor in the world who just loves giving money to weirdos with no industry experience who want to open restaurants.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:People always go for the "sexy" small businesses which are in oversaturated markets. I wonder what the statistics are for people who did research, and actually came up with a business plan are. See: that Parks & Rec clip where Ben tells Tom about his extremely boring but guaranteed-to-be-successful dry cleanong detergent wholesaler and Tom skipping out for an upscale Italian bistro in a tiny working class rural Indiana town. Except Parks and Rec gave him the one inestor in the world who just loves giving money to weirdos with no industry experience who want to open restaurants.
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FactsAreUseless posted:But he ends up failing anyway. As a result of trying to expand too quickly after 4 years of his restaurant doing wonderfully amd becoming a regional chain. Instead of failing almost immediately because there's exactly two families in this town who are actually wealthy, why would you target the upper class?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:People always go for the "sexy" small businesses which are in oversaturated markets. I wonder what the statistics are for people who did research, and actually came up with a business plan are. See: that Parks & Rec clip where Ben tells Tom about his extremely boring but guaranteed-to-be-successful dry cleanong detergent wholesaler and Tom skipping out for an upscale Italian bistro in a tiny working class rural Indiana town. Except Parks and Rec gave him the one inestor in the world who just loves giving money to weirdos with no industry experience who want to open restaurants. It's a throwaway line, but I love that during the opening of Tom's Bistro, his nemesis, Dr. Saperstein, mentions his dry cleaning transactional holding company is doing extremely well.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:As a result of trying to expand too quickly after 4 years of his restaurant doing wonderfully amd becoming a regional chain. Instead of failing almost immediately because there's exactly two families in this town who are actually wealthy, why would you target the upper class?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:People always go for the "sexy" small businesses which are in oversaturated markets. I wonder what the statistics are for people who did research, and actually came up with a business plan are. See: that Parks & Rec clip where Ben tells Tom about his extremely boring but guaranteed-to-be-successful dry cleanong detergent wholesaler and Tom skipping out for an upscale Italian bistro in a tiny working class rural Indiana town. Except Parks and Rec gave him the one inestor in the world who just loves giving money to weirdos with no industry experience who want to open restaurants. Restaurants are also a common one because most people know how to cook. Sometimes they'll have That One Recipe they make for people they know that everybody loves or some family recipe that's been handed down a long while. They then think "well you know just scale that up, right? How hard can it be?" Then they find out that a restaurant is a business and you have to run a business on top of cooking. It's also a business with a gently caress ton of competition as there's already restaurants just loving everywhere.
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Krispy Wafer posted:So what you're saying is I need to start by opening a whole chain of magician themed restaurants rather than just the one to improve my chances of success? One location is fine, as long as you have at least 20 employees.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Restaurants are also a common one because most people know how to cook. Sometimes they'll have That One Recipe they make for people they know that everybody loves or some family recipe that's been handed down a long while. They then think "well you know just scale that up, right? How hard can it be?" Then they find out that a restaurant is a business and you have to run a business on top of cooking. It's also a business with a gently caress ton of competition as there's already restaurants just loving everywhere. So many stories appear to be people who want the image of being a restaurateur. You know, dressing in a smock with just enough flour on the front while you stroll between tables and become the center of attention. Very little of the guy who hasn't slept in 36 hours now realizing he needs a home equity loan to repair the walk-in freezer. Oh, and Carlos quit so guess who gets to run the prep line tonight. Someone should create a fake restaurant where retired dentists with too much money cosplay as owner-operators.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Someone should create a fake restaurant where retired dentists with too much money cosplay as owner-operators. thats what mcdonalds franchises are for those fuckers print money
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FactsAreUseless posted:It's probably just corruption and nepotism like the rest of the characters' actions. I still can't tell if the writers were doing it on purpose. People who watch sitcoms want to see characters they've already met and care about do well and succeed and especially if its because of the friends they've made along the way. Its just good writing. It is if course the exact opposite of good governance.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:People who watch sitcoms want to see characters they've already met and care about do well and succeed and especially if its because of the friends they've made along the way. Its just good writing. It is if course the exact opposite of good governance. When I was watching P and R I basically was always hoping Tom would fail, or get hit by a bus. On a show full of great characters, he was just aggravating every time he was on screen.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:People who watch sitcoms want to see characters they've already met and care about do well and succeed and especially if its because of the friends they've made along the way. Its just good writing. It is if course the exact opposite of good governance. Is this a cultural thing? 'Cos when I think of how popular things like The Young Ones and Bottom were/are in the UK, that does not gel with the idea of people enjoying watching success. Quite the opposite. Watching Richie and Eddie succeed would be dull, watching them get dropped by the literal hand of God after realising they don't believe in him is much funnier.
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Krispy Wafer posted:You know, dressing in a smock with just enough flour on the front Hey 
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exquisite tea posted:The UK version is a lot slower and more cerebral. You really get to empathize with the owners and see how just a few systematic errors in judgment has caused their business to collapse over time. In the American version it's Angry Gordon yelling at slackjawed morons who can't make a baked potato while that creaky door sound effect plays over and over. Both have their merits. BioEnchanted posted:I like on that season of Hell's Kitchen with the single mother that everyone got super bitchy about because they were jealous that one of her prizes during the show was cooking live on TV (they were all pissy because her simpler meals were owning their over-complex poo poo as well) so conspired against her by deliberately failing to tell her what was needed of her when she was on the veg station. Gordon did notice as well, he asked her before dismissing her, giving her a chance to defend herself "Did you feel like you got adequate support from the other contestants?" but because she had class (and was the only one to have any, the winner did not deserve to win that season after her behaviour) she refused to throw them under the bus and lied for them. She was cool and deserved better, and Gordon recognised that. trickybiscuits has a new favorite as of 20:46 on Oct 31, 2019 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Restaurants are also a common one because most people know how to cook. Sometimes they'll have That One Recipe they make for people they know that everybody loves or some family recipe that's been handed down a long while. They then think "well you know just scale that up, right? How hard can it be?" Then they find out that a restaurant is a business and you have to run a business on top of cooking. It's also a business with a gently caress ton of competition as there's already restaurants just loving everywhere. I live in a pretty small no-name area, and there's at least half a dozen pizza places just within a 5 minute drive from my house that I'm aware of. You've got chains like Pizza Hut and Fox's, smaller local franchises like Fat Angelo's, then the mom and pop joints like Pepper Ronnie's. And that's not even factoring in all the other fast food like McDonald's, Subway, Dairy Queen and Sheetz. But yeah, everyone thinks that they can run their own pizza place around here.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Restaurants are also a common one because most people know how to cook. Sometimes they'll have That One Recipe they make for people they know that everybody loves or some family recipe that's been handed down a long while. They then think "well you know just scale that up, right? How hard can it be?" Then they find out that a restaurant is a business and you have to run a business on top of cooking. It's also a business with a gently caress ton of competition as there's already restaurants just loving everywhere. This is nuts to me, because My One Recipe is for pizza, which is relatively easy to scale up compared to most recipes, and the few times I've actually cooked for 20 to 30-ish people were incredibly stressful. Even the time my one friend contracted out just dough to me was a giant pain in the rear end. Have these people never hosted a party they didn't have catered?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:People who watch sitcoms want to see characters they've already met and care about do well and succeed and especially if its because of the friends they've made along the way. Its just good writing. It is if course the exact opposite of good governance.
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FactsAreUseless posted:because people who make TV shows don't get it right when they try to make shows about people without privilege (because they have a lot of it). I think Raising Hope did this really well, but yeah I can't think of another show besides maybe pre-Reboot Roseanne.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Restaurants are also a common one because most people know how to cook. Sometimes they'll have That One Recipe they make for people they know that everybody loves or some family recipe that's been handed down a long while. They then think "well you know just scale that up, right? How hard can it be?" Then they find out that a restaurant is a business and you have to run a business on top of cooking. It's also a business with a gently caress ton of competition as there's already restaurants just loving everywhere. The one reason why the Curb Your Enthusiasm season 3 arc of Larry investing in a new restaurant made sense was because he was one of about 10 partners, and they all had meetings with a proper restaurateur and hired a head chef who wasn't an owner. They never do end up mentioning the restaurant after the season 3 finale, but he was also rich as poo poo so it didn't matter if an LA restaurant failed as long as he got to have some fun.
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mojo1701a posted:The one reason why the Curb Your Enthusiasm season 3 arc of Larry investing in a new restaurant made sense was because he was one of about 10 partners, and they all had meetings with a proper restaurateur and hired a head chef who wasn't an owner. Also hes a celebrity and celebrities dream about owning their own restaurant even more than regular people do.
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They also lose their shirts even more than regular people do. That's the main reason pro athletes go bankrupt after they retire. It's not buying fancy sports cars, drugs, or divorces; it's investing in businesses - often restaurants. I used to work next to Evander Holyfield's restaurant. I think it lasted a year.
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Rake had a fairly realistic (for the show) restaurant subplot where Cleaver bought a restaurant with a bunch of other lawyers and he was the only one who didn't realise it was meant to lose money as a part of a tax scheme.
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Beachcomber posted:A football man owns a Jamba Juice nearby. It's got his name on it and everything. There are always some success cases. https://www.franchisehelp.com/franchisee-resource-center/top-professional-athletes-who-own-franchises/ Jamal Mashburn owns 34 Outback Steakhouses! fake edit: It list Mark Brunell as a success with 11 Whataburgers, even as he goes into bankruptcy, lol
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