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Minorkos posted:I'm looking at some Overwatch 2 PvP gameplay and it appears to just be Overwatch? yeah it's identical between the two games. they even play together, in the same matches. the PvE is really the new OW2 content, all PvP is identical across both games including new heroes and maps and modes being added to both, as things keep moving forward if people aren't interested in PvE you can keep playing OW1 and you still get all the benefits of OW2, just not the PvE mode
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they can't make a new pvp game with owl still running. they'd be sabotaging their own pro league if ow2 had an updated, separate pvp experience
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Nov 1, 2019 22:13
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I guess that makes more sense than separating the game but honestly, why did they even call it Overwatch 2 instead of just Overwatch: Total Recall or whatever
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Minorkos posted:I guess that makes more sense than separating the game but honestly, why did they even call it Overwatch 2 instead of just Overwatch: Total Recall or whatever This is what I've been saying elsewhere too. Marketing glorified expansion pack/DLC content as a sequel seems weird.
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Minorkos posted:I guess that makes more sense than separating the game but honestly, why did they even call it Overwatch 2 instead of just Overwatch: Total Recall or whatever $60 Especially to the new consoles.
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Nov 1, 2019 22:33
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Yeah, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they're marketing basic add-ons as a sequel for more money lol.
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teagone posted:Yeah, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they're marketing basic add-ons as a sequel for more money lol. also going to guess Activision wants More Sequels and this is their way of doing that without making people abandon an older game
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It is absolutely insane to me that blizzard released this game with so much emphasis on the story and lore and proceeded to sit on their hands doing side content and backstory exposition for over three full loving years. Winston tried to get the gang back together three and a half years ago and they’re not only just getting around to answering the question of “what happened next”, they’re trying to frame it like they’re delivering a sequel and doing everybody a service. Incredible.
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Lol, I guess "taken inspiration from L4D" also extends to the sequel and how it ended up being just one game.
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Very psyched for the new PvP mode letting dust off classic IRC prank jokes.
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https://twitter.com/Overbuff/status/1190402449401503744Wrist Watch posted:It is absolutely insane to me that blizzard released this game with so much emphasis on the story and lore and proceeded to sit on their hands doing side content and backstory exposition for over three full loving years.
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Honestly I'm feeling pretty hype now after watching the videos they just put out Also Pushbot is best boy 
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They should adapt Role Queue so that you get queue credit for playing Tank/Support. Play some games as tank or support and you can cut the line for DPS queue by a couple of minutes.
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mcbexx posted:They should adapt Role Queue so that you get queue credit for playing Tank/Support. Play some games as tank or support and you can cut the line for DPS queue by a couple of minutes. That sounds awful, that'd just lead to horrible tank/support players going "I'm just here so I can play dps next game". I suppose they'd quickly fall to their appropriate matchmaking level though.
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I think it would be cool if there was a sort of adaptive role queue where it just made teams of of equal amounts of dps/tank/support but not necessarily 2-2-2. I don't know what it would really do for overall meta balance but having some games be both teams have 3 dps 1 tank 2 heals or something along those lines so it would still be balanced in that regard, but also not mess up queue times for playing a popular role.
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If you have one tank, everyone will scream at them to have a barrier. A better time would be to have no healer >=)
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Got to play on the show floor today. PvE exceeded my expectations; it's wilder and more fun than any of the Archives missions although it was fairly easy on the standard difficulty. We still wiped on the final boss once despite that, since we had no idea what the mechanics were. We won the next attempt. Apparently there's an Expert difficulty which kicks your poo poo in if you're not prepared, but it wasn't available for my group. Push is a fun mode, definitely better than 2CP and probably more fun than Control. Constant back and forth action, fights always break out at different parts of the map so things can change pretty fast. The pushbot is easily the best thing to happen to the game. I like that Blizz said "gently caress it" to lore/story reasons behind an objective and made it "a robot that pushes a barricade for no reason"
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Names of the new maps from the OW2 press kit (assuming PvE assets will also be used for PvP sooner or later) Toronto (already known) Gothenburg Rio Monte Carlo Some nice super high res stills from the Zero Hour cinematic https://imgur.com/a/BHpZMv2
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novaSphere posted:Got to play on the show floor today. PvE exceeded my expectations; it's wilder and more fun than any of the Archives missions although it was fairly easy on the standard difficulty. We still wiped on the final boss once despite that, since we had no idea what the mechanics were. We won the next attempt. Apparently there's an Expert difficulty which kicks your poo poo in if you're not prepared, but it wasn't available for my group. Probably helps that since they'll have an actual story mode now they can be more explicit about the whole "Overwatch's PvP is Noncanon" thing Also Pushbot is wonderful
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The big question to me is whether OW1 or OW2 will provide better performance for tryharding.
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SKULL.GIF posted:That sounds awful, that'd just lead to horrible tank/support players going "I'm just here so I can play dps next game". I suppose they'd quickly fall to their appropriate matchmaking level though. I would say make it so you only get credit if you win but that would just lead to those same people freaking out on their team. Really the only answer to balance queue times is to make tanking/supporting more fun than it already is. I actually like both those roles, I haven't queued for DPS once since role queue came out.
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What about a tank that applies shields to nearby teammates as the tank attacks, like Brig's healing from smacking enemies?
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mcbexx posted:Some nice super high res stills from the Zero Hour cinematic Imgur butchers quality with their compression. If you want legit high-res images for whatever reason, grab the 100MB TIFs from the press center (scroll down): https://blizzard.gamespress.com/Overwatch-2#?tab=artwork [edit] Also saw on Reddit the OW2 client is going to replace the OW1 client. So existing players will get the OW2 client to launch the game, but with PvE paywalled until you purchase it I guess. teagone fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Nov 2, 2019 |
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So should anyone even bother making a new thread since 2 is less of a sequel and more of an "Overwatch +" editionManatee Cannon posted:that would be truly awful tbh as with all things it depends on implementation
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The Clowner posted:So should anyone even bother making a new thread since 2 is less of a sequel and more of an "Overwatch +" edition Just rename the thread Overwatch 2: It's the same poo poo or Overwatch 2: DLC being marketed as a sequel teagone fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Nov 2, 2019 |
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teagone posted:Just rename the thread Overwatch 2: It's the same poo poo Isn't it the opposite problem? All the "same poo poo" is also being included in Overwatch 1, with both "games" sharing players. The Overwatch 2 exclusive stuff is all different modes and PVE stuff, even though the usage of "2" implies its iterating on the first.
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The Clowner posted:as with all things it depends on implementation I don't care how it's implemented, a hero like that would be straight up apocalyptic. brig and double shield wouldn't even compare to how bad that would be
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Overwatch 2: PvElectric Boogaloo
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Zinkraptor posted:Isn't it the opposite problem? All the "same poo poo" is also being included in Overwatch 1, with both "games" sharing players. The Overwatch 2 exclusive stuff is all different modes and PVE stuff, even though the usage of "2" implies its iterating on the first. Overwatch 2: DLC being marketed as a sequel
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Zinkraptor posted:The Overwatch 2 exclusive stuff is all different modes and PVE stuff, even though the usage of "2" implies its iterating on the first. Eh, this is a weird assumption to me. There have been innumerable game sequels going decades back that are completely different from the original.
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Should have just called it Overwatch: Zero Hour and then market it—it being "Zero Hour" content—as an expansion pack that adds PvE and an engine update on top of the existing game. OG Blizzard is no stranger to expansion packs, I don't know why they didn't just market it like that.
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An engine update warrants a "new game" imo and it's actually pretty cool that people who own Overwatch 1 are getting it for free and getting all the new content backported. I paid $50 for this game almost 4 years ago and that's pretty good of a deal. I don't really care whether it's being marketed as a DLC, expansion pack, or a new game. What difference does it make?
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Overwatch 2 - Featuring the bestselling game Overwatch
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SKULL.GIF posted:An engine update warrants a "new game" imo and it's actually pretty cool that people who own Overwatch 1 are getting it for free and getting all the new content backported. I paid $50 for this game almost 4 years ago and that's pretty good of a deal. Just because you don't care how the content is being marketed doesn't mean it's not a weird/confusing branding strategy for the franchise. It's literally the same game with more polygons and PvE missions baked in.
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teagone posted:Should have just called it Overwatch: Zero Hour and then market it—it being "Zero Hour" content—as an expansion pack that adds PvE and an engine update on top of the existing game. OG Blizzard is no stranger to expansion packs, I don't know why they didn't just market it like that. I can tell you why. Activision wanted a sequel on shelves and in marketing. They wanted Overwatch 2. Blizzard clearly knows doing that and killing off OW1 right now would be the dumbest move possible. So they named their expansion pack OW2 and included OW1 inside of it. But Activision gets to go "oh we're releasing a sequel to overwatch" to the investors and they all get to chortle approvingly, tweak their monocles, and give Activision more money the reason why it makes no real sense is because it doesn't, and it it's just blizzard running a scam on acti's investors by pretending it's a new game instead of an expansion the sticking point is going to be how much it costs, though. that's what i'm unclear about.
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Exactly. This is blizzard trying to appease the overlords while holding the ship together for us fans. It's fine. I'll gladly shell out another $60 for the only game I've played for 4 years (and only invested $60 on in the first place).
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Also did they say it would be $60? The original wasn't 60, on PC anyway
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Macaluso posted:Also did they say it would be $60? The original wasn't 60, on PC anyway They haven't said any pricing info. I imagine the $40 normal/$60 special on PC thing like OW1 will probably happen again, with it being $60 on consoles as only the special edition would be available for that. Just like OW1 did. but right now we've got to wait and see
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