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mfcrocker posted:Aww would've liked to have had an impromptu goonmeet but I've got a stinking cold that local activists probably don't want Left goon bristol meet when?
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1190580636651851777 I’m the rugby shirt worn over his normal shirt.
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Nov 2, 2019 15:09
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duckmaster posted:I’m the rugby shirt worn over his normal shirt. It's weird how Tories can never quite get human customs right, even with the best image consulting money can buy.
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Nov 2, 2019 15:11
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Braggart posted:It's weird how Tories can never quite get human customs right, even with the best image consulting money can buy. The mugs Johnson brought out after the domestic violence incident was particularly lol. As if that prick doesn't have totally matching sets.
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Braggart posted:It's weird how Tories can never quite get human customs right, even with the best image consulting money can buy. 
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Sup, I'm a semi lurker that posts rarely. This thread has also become my only news source as I have stopped pretty much all social media and stopped watching/reading the news. I'm far happier as a person because of it, though it does give you an interesting perspective on things if you don't counter balance this thread with anything. Like I get that brexit is probably important, but it seems like the biggest divide in the British population is between beef and pickled onion monster munch. Pickled onion being Corbin and beef being Boris of course.
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Nov 2, 2019 15:16
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OwlFancier posted:I want to subject anyone who suggests means testing to an eternity of doing stupid forms until they learn. i suggest means testing every billionaire using a guillotine
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This is truly excellent. And as one of the replies says the most surprising thing about this is a journalist actually asking for evidence, rather than just nodding and mh-hmming like they do for bald faced tory lies.Bobby Deluxe posted:Also the dog is still alive We regret to inform you the dog has been taxidermied.
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duckmaster posted:I’m the rugby shirt worn over his normal shirt. You just know the PR email said "make sure you wear a rugby shirt and the TV doesn't look too fancy" and he just went "hmmm wear a rugby shirt??? how does one wear these things also build a makeshift TV stand with... a tablecloth... yes, and the small spare TV I have in my bathroom, can't use the 100 inch cinema I have, have to relate to the proles"
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BoneMonkey posted:Sup, I'm a semi lurker that posts rarely. This thread has also become my only news source as I have stopped pretty much all social media and stopped watching/reading the news.  Report to your nearest re-education centre, comrade.
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Nov 2, 2019 15:23
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We should means test every individual pound that would put someone above 1 million pounds.
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Nov 2, 2019 15:24
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OwlFancier posted:To be honest I don't really like the tax evasion thing because, like, even if they did pay their taxes it wouldn't be enough, if you can become a billionaire the taxes aren't high enough.
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Nov 2, 2019 15:27
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Just spotted that Jezza's poppy is askew. How can this traitor show so much hate to our glorious Britane!!!
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Nov 2, 2019 15:28
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There should be a maximum wage as well as a maximum amount of wealth you can hold. I would probably tie the maximum wage to like 10 times the minimum wage or something. And have the wealth be like 10 times that. Or you know full gay luxury space communism.
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Pablo Bluth posted:Also, I'd say the first point of argument should not be taxes but wages. The primary problem isn't tax evasion/avoidance but not paying ethical wages and morally defensible division of the fruits of labour. Initially I'd agree, but you now also have the problem of inherited wealth and trading vast sums of money. The majority of wealth inequality has nothing really to do with wages because the wealthy don't go near a wage in their lives.
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Azza Bamboo posted:We should means test every individual pound that would put someone above 1 million pounds. The results of the test mean we are taking £1 of it.
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Rust Martialis posted:I guess it's some variation of the Tragedy of the Commons? The one place where Garrett Hardin might be right is where corporations exist, because they're terrifying paperclip optimizer AIs for profit. (But Hardin is listed as a white nationalist hate author by the SPLC so I imagine he meant something very different to corporations when he was talking about "groups using all the resources badly who need to be managed with a firm hand and kept out of the environment"  )Real people won't park there forever as long as there are systems to tackle abuse. I have a prepayment certificate but I don't make myself ill on purpose to get as many prescriptions as possible within the time frame. I pay water rates instead of using a meter, but I don't set my toilet to flush constantly to save me the effort.  Funnily enough (and this'll really piss off the "infinite demand for a free good" lot) the best thing we could do for car park use, road congestion, air quality, CO2 emissions, and social equality is free at the point of use municipal public transport. But according to the Commons argument the feckless poor would do nothing but ride the bus all day every day. OwlFancier posted:I want to subject anyone who suggests means testing to an eternity of doing stupid forms until they learn.
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OwlFancier posted:To be honest I don't really like the tax evasion thing because, like, even if they did pay their taxes it wouldn't be enough, if you can become a billionaire the taxes aren't high enough.
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BoneMonkey posted:Like I get that brexit is probably important, but it seems like the biggest divide in the British population is between beef and pickled onion monster munch. Hmm. One is tart, vinegary and often involved in the making of preserves, while the other is fatty and overfed and very bad for the environment. Checks out.  This will be my first and last ever crispchat post. I leave you all to enjoy it as you were 
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Braggart posted:Hmm. One is tart, vinegary and often involved in the making of preserves, while the other is fatty and overfed and very bad for the environment. Good job it was a correct one.
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Rarity posted:Corbs going in deep on environmental issues, planning a green industrial revolution He just floated including environmental regulations on foreign imports which is a fantastic idea
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BoneMonkey posted:There should be a maximum wage as well as a maximum amount of wealth you can hold. You don't think people should have the right to own their own home?
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Nov 2, 2019 15:43
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OwlFancier posted:To be honest I don't really like the tax evasion thing because, like, even if they did pay their taxes it wouldn't be enough, if you can become a billionaire the taxes aren't high enough.
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Jedit posted:You don't think people should have the right to own their own home? you can’t own a home man
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Jedit posted:You don't think people should have the right to own their own home? If we stop land hoarding, build sufficient housing, and replace mortgage lending with trusts, there's no reason why the default price of the actual bricks and mortar (or whatever the best thing for building houses is, goddamnedtwisto) should be anywhere near 10x the maximum wage.
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Nov 2, 2019 15:47
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Braggart posted:It's weird how Tories can never quite get human customs right, even with the best image consulting money can buy. He went to Eton, he should absolutely know how to wear a rugby shirt, the daft twat. Jedit posted:You don't think people should have the right to own their own home? Yes OP. Private property was a mistake.
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That poll recently that said 50% of UK voters base their voting decision on green issues had a big impact on both Labour and the Tories I guess.
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WOW! if corbyn hadn't campaigned against apartheid then maybe it wouldn't have ended letting the springboks compete internationally and beat England - why do you hate are lads Jeremy???
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Guavanaut posted:Funnily enough (and this'll really piss off the "infinite demand for a free good" lot) the best thing we could do for car park use, road congestion, air quality, CO2 emissions, and social equality is free at the point of use municipal public transport. But according to the Commons argument the feckless poor would do nothing but ride the bus all day every day. I think the answer to this problem is to provide so many free services that it's physically impossible for the poor to use all of them all of the time. Then, they will simply use some of them for some of the time, and the services will not be overwhelmed. Ooh, but then they might breed in order to occupy all the available niches. The poor are like bacteria, you see.
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OwlFancier posted:To be honest I don't really like the tax evasion thing because, like, even if they did pay their taxes it wouldn't be enough, if you can become a billionaire the taxes aren't high enough.
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forkboy84 posted:He went to Eton, he should absolutely know how to wear a rugby shirt, the daft twat. I dunno. Isn't the only evidence we have of Boris playing rugby: 
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I haven’t been keeping very up-to-date with the news so sorry if this is a dumb question, but now Bercow’s stood down what’s the timeline for picking a new Speaker? Is somebody else standing in temporarily until then? Also, somebody else mentioned that the election hasn’t technically kicked off yet, when does that happen?
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OK so - free parking works well until people abuse it. There are lots of other things that work the same way; the mugs and coffee pot in the break room, for example. I choose to believe that nobody intentionally abuses the coffee situation or never takes their turn at washing up or whatever. But people do fall into bad habits sometimes. Usually, in the coffee pot case, they can be rehabilitated with a polite "please wash your own dishes, it's rude not to". At what scale does that kind of, uh, societal/social reinforcement stop working? Why can't we put up 'please don't park here' signs and...go on with our lives? Writ in the extreme, is it just that people don't see with their own eyes the people they're hurting that allows them to participate in exploitative systems?
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Pablo Bluth posted:Also, I'd say the first point of argument should not be taxes but wages. The primary problem isn't tax evasion/avoidance but not paying ethical wages and morally defensible division of the fruits of labour. Fifth time's the charm 
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Superterranean posted:At what scale does that kind of, uh, societal/social reinforcement stop working? At the scale where you are able to pay to have people trying it removed.
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Bundy posted:Land ownership as a concept still makes me I'm pretty sure everyone who posted in the failed Pissflaps election thread got one, so it's your own fault 
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